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Old 11-11-2012, 08:52 PM   #1
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Well, I have this thought that Tobi's dimension although so dangerous for anyone except Kakashi, there could still be a way to escape...

So what do you think... is there a way or NOT? If yes, How?

You think an S-class Shinobi like Madara can be stuck in there just because he doesn't have Kamui?
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probably not...since it is in another dimension..

i wonder if the rinnegan users can
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My dear Daph, with the power of Rinnegan and Senju DNA anything is possible!
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jump on Tobi when he comes back and when he teleports out of the dimension the guy that jumped on him will get out too. Simple but it could possibly work maybe
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Hmmmm...there has to be an escape way in case of MS break down.
Obito now has Senju DNA, which obviously protects him from MS side effects, but what if he didn't have it? He would have been blind a long time ago, and that is the reason we need an escape way, so that the user could go back in case of Sharingan malfunction.
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Remember with the EMS, and the Senju DNA, madara can use Izanagi, which means he can pretty much do w/e he wants lol! I'd say even without Izanagi, he would be able to interrupt the warp, it seams like it takes atleast some time to get the warp to happen completely!
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Well, I have this thought that Tobi's dimension although so dangerous for anyone except Kakashi, there could still be a way to escape...

So what do you think... is there a way or NOT? If yes, How?

You think an S-class Shinobi like Madara can be stuck in there just because he doesn't have Kamui?
Reverse Summoning technique thats it
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I don't think Kamui land has a safeway out... because it's as simple as this.

If the world wasn't created, then it obviously isn't tailored specifically to meet the needs of it's inhabitant (Obito)

Therefore, it doesn't have an inground way out, other than the Sharingan.

But, if using the FTG technique, you could get out, or something like that.

Madara... so far... hasn't planned that far ahead, unless he foresaw Obito betraying him, and planned for it.
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Reverse kuchiyose seems like an ok idea.
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Yeah... but I don't believe Madara can reverse summon himself, due to the fact that he can't do anything in coffin form, and that he revived himself...
so, I believe reverse summon is out of it.
Flying Thunder God, or something close to it seems to be his only way out, unless Perfect Susanoo can rainbow it's way into real world...
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Tobito was able to put out the Amaturasu flames that Sasuke suddenly spit out even though they're rumored to not go out until their target is ashed. So if you know the technique well enough, it has its ins and outs. Every technique has a weakness.

I can't say I'd know any exact way, but Madara seems to know his stuff, so maybe he'd know a weakness in Kamui. Maybe Rinnegan would show one. Kamui is supposed to be a private pocket dimension, but it doesn't mean it's flawless.
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Exactly, like I said.

Madara probably knew of this ahead of time, and planned for it.
He probably has a seal somewhere, where he can just activate the seal and it will reverse summon him to that location.
Probably his cave
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huh...this' what inspired me to post this thread...

1. By reverese summoning, like jiraiya did.

2. what about summoning say a big animal like the toad and takes u in its mouth then disappears... or summon it, tell it to summon you in the other world.


And i agree with u guys that there's got to be some weakness besides another kamui but are these suggestions practical enough.

@ Maruko....As for the MS getting blind, that'd be more like 0 hope of getting out then, unless the jutsu expired when the eye gets blind...


So like someone stated, did the MS create that dimension or was is that dimension in existence before the MS came into being?
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Or if you have S/T jutsu yourself.

Though I think there's a passage full of traps that leads to exiting the dimension, that might be a solution since it's rare for people to have S/T Jutsu or do Reverse Summoning.
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I'm not so sure it's as simple as a reverse summoning. When you summon something, you summon it from the same world. I don't think you can summon someone from Kamui land. It's the same principle as Oro not being able to summon the fourth due to being sealed in the reaper. The reaper is more than a hole. The third said they don't die. It's a whole different world. So, I don't think summoning would cut it.
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^ hmmm... good one.
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Tobito was able to put out the Amaturasu flames that Sasuke suddenly spit out even though they're rumored to not go out until their target is ashed. So if you know the technique well enough, it has its ins and outs. Every technique has a weakness.

I can't say I'd know any exact way, but Madara seems to know his stuff, so maybe he'd know a weakness in Kamui. Maybe Rinnegan would show one. Kamui is supposed to be a private pocket dimension, but it doesn't mean it's flawless.

he just let amatersu burn through him thus completing its jutsu effect or possibly he just left it burning in his kamui dimension somewhere bee used substitution to escape jairaiya used a sealing scroll umm so yeaa

but as for the orginal question sure who know's how maybe similiar to shattering a barrier or escaping a genjutsu realm or maybe like naruto when he escaped the kyubi realm but probably so I mean konan made tobi have to essentially split her out to save herself with paper bombs minato used straight speed to escape the vortex those are in some ways force ways out of the realm although there more like counters
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I'll rely on having a secret passage most definetely, since Reverse Summoning doesn't work as you guys say it.

'The counterpart of the Summoning Technique, this technique allows an animal to summon humans that they have a contract with. Gamakichi used this technique to summon Naruto to Mount Myōboku to begin his training. Fukasaku has also been shown summoning Naruto's shadow clones from Mount Myōboku with the use of a scroll.' - Wikia.


Dimension A ---- KAMUI.
Dimension B ---- the real world.

We've seen Reverse Summoning being used by the two Sage frogs.

It happened because both the Toad Mountain and Konoha were in dimension B. RSummoning is only available to animals, they use it to summon the humans they have their contract with.

Summoning is bringing something to where you are, let's say you're @ Konoha, you're going to summon something @ the same place.
Reverse Summoning is summoning that same object back somewhere else. Let's say you have a sword here with you, you reverse summon it somewhere else.


Summoning - TELEPORTION FROM A TO B
RSummoning - TELEPORTION FROM B TO A
(B being your location)

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Although it may work, I still find it hard for RSummoning or Summoning being able to summon things from a dimension to another one, but I think since they all rely on one dimension, which is the X dimension, that's the whole universe.

Teleportation or S/T Jutsu is also known to work for each dimension, just as Kamui can teleport an object from this world to that certain dimension, the RSummoning can do the same as for right now since Kishi hasn't proven it wrong.

With all the facts given, R. Summoning CAN do it, but let's see what Kishi will do if he'll do it.
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