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Old 10-22-2012, 10:36 PM   #1
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Madara is not an edo, he has nothing that was given to him by Hasirama's cells and no Kurama.

Sasori gets all of his puppets including crow, black ant and salamander.

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So no rinnegan, regneration, wood style, perfect susanoo, nor infinte chakra??

Wow than this is a stomp!!!!
Dediara just has to soar into the sky then use C4 for the WIN!!!

While Deidara is soaring into the air Konan distracts Madara with Paper Chakrams and Sasori distracts him with an army of posionous puppets with teh 3rd Kazekage!!

Everyone knows not to get in eyecontact with an Uchiha. I doubt genjustsu would effect Sasori or Dediara

Amaterasu would take at least one of them out and susanoo can nor protect from C4 nor C0

C0 is Dediara's last resort and Konan can try to fly out of range or Dediara can make a clay bird for them to get away
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i dont know Madara was a lot stronger then Tobi i am sure he could have lasted a while but who knows knowing the auther MAdara would win becase he seems to make him OP
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Well the C4 wouldnt do much with Madaras Susanoo that should protect him right? with that Madara could make a cloneor two and split up or sum how split them up. i dout any of them can take Madara by them selfs. but i could be wrong. pluse he could use Amaterasu on Konan, and use Fire Release: Great Fire Annihilation on Both Konan if that doesnt workand Sasori. Either way i am sure this would be a good fight.
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C4 effects the lungs! Bassically the bombs are too small to see and you bretah them in! So no Susanoo does not have it's own clean air which means Susanoo would not protect against C4!

Madara can not make wood clones are use metoers

Iron sand should be able to protect against fire attacks. Konan would be the first to die though

At best this ends with a tie due to C0
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good point, i just only dont see the c4 because he lost both itachi and sasuke

Sasuke not sure how he lived from that explosion but imsure madar could beat that one if sasuke could. but you have a betetr insight on the world of Naruto them me so i guess i am on your side now lol
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C4 was never used on Itachi

C4>>Madara
-why?? Cuz Madara can not get high enough to get out of the range of C4
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thats true hmmm forget i said anything lol ;p
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OK this doesn't change much, but perfect Susanoo was not something given to Madara by Hasirama's cells, he stated that he used it in the fight against Hashirama and that if Hasirama had been there then the climate would have to change so drastically.

However since we don't know what the True Susanoo can do other than obviously destroy an mountain I'm not sure how much this will help.
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The fact he activates it, and swings it once, killing all three of them.

C4 takes longer to activate than PS.

At the very least, by the time PS is up, C4 is ready. Seeing as the bombs still travel by air, PS swings it's sword, killing them all.

None of them have anything to survive a single sword swipe, let alone multiple.
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Perfect susanoo should still take this.
It can tank most if not anything they can throw at him.
And it slices mountains like butter.

C0 is their best chance but madara should be able to see the particles like sasuke did and maybe burn them with ammy or something. Or atleast say out of its range somehow.
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Sasuke could see the super small bombs with his sharingan, so Madara can see it too. Sasori is only usefull if he can poision madara, which isn't going to happen with Susano active. And without Susano, Madara can dodge the poison puppets thanks to his Sharingan.

Maybe if Sasori, Deidara and Konan can stay out of range and let the puppets, paper bombs and clay creatures play with Madara long enough so he runs out of chakra (Susanoo costs a lot of chakra). But Madara is supposed to be one of the best, I'd assume he would go straight for the kill.

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Do you honestly think that the arrogant Madara would use Perfect Susanoo at the start? It is his only way of winning if he uses it at the start!

Just because Madara can see the chakra in Dediara's attack does not mean anything!! Madara has no knowledge Deidara and his bombs!

The art trio know not to underestimate Madara and would go all out! iron Sand should block most attacks and be a good defense

Konan just distracts Madara with paper spam

Dediara gets in the air and preps C4 then uses it!!
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Do you honestly think that the arrogant Madara would use Perfect Susanoo at the start? It is his only way of winning if he uses it at the start!

Just because Madara can see the chakra in Dediara's attack does not mean anything!! Madara has no knowledge Deidara and his bombs!

The art trio know not to underestimate Madara and would go all out! iron Sand should block most attacks and be a good defense

Konan just distracts Madara with paper spam

Dediara gets in the air and preps C4 then uses it!!
No but madara has no qualms with using rib-cage susanoo which pretty much already tanks everything they can thorw at him. And he also has the fan of doom

Neither did sasuke as far as we know.

It wont block PS but it probably wont come out like you said.

600 billion sploding versions of her paper failed to kill his student why would it work on him? I dont see paper harming any version of susanoo or even his fan.

Without getting burned by katon or ammy? Without getting captured in any kind of genjutsu (which he did with A)

If they would nearly kill madara he would bring PS out which would end this fight. But they are never going to get to that point. Genjutsu + generic uchihax should take care of this even without his god-like feats.
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No but madara has no qualms with using rib-cage susanoo which pretty much already tanks everything they can thorw at him. And he also has the fan of doom
how does any of that stop iron sand, or posion mist,C3.C4. or C0?????

Neither did sasuke as far as we know.
the difference between Saskue and madara is that SASKUE HAS WINGS !! Saskue has shown is hops and Madara has not

It wont block PS but it probably wont come out like you said.
question: Did Madara have PS before he died? How did he get it? I thought do to his HUGE chakra reserves he could activate it

600 billion sploding versions of her paper failed to kill his student why would it work on him? I dont see paper harming any version of susanoo or even his fan.
Madara does not have iznamgi

Without getting burned by katon or ammy? Without getting captured in any kind of genjutsu (which he did with A)
Iron Sand, army of puppets, paper shiled, and random clay monsters block Ammy and Katon. Ay is an overconfident idoit! Everyond (besides Dediara) is smarter than him! It would be hard to get dediara in a genjutsu!

If they would nearly kill madara he would bring PS out which would end this fight. But they are never going to get to that point. Genjutsu + generic uchihax should take care of this even without his god-like feats.
Sasori uses posion mist to blind Madara
(Dediara makes a clay dragon and soars into the air and preps/uese C4)
Madara uses fan to blow it away

Madara notices Dediara doing something in the air

Konan uses Chakrams , paper clones and other paper spam to distract him
Sasori uses an army of puppets to block ammy and katon towards Deidara
^All of this keeps Madara busy^

Madara burns all with Ammy while Susuanno is active

Dediara activates c4
Madara breaths it in and dies

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Susanoo has tanked worse things like full on combination attacks of 5 kage level ninjas.

Sasuke did not fly away so having wings does not matter.

Yes, as madara claimed anyone who ever sees it has died. As he only has recently been resurrected and hasnt used PS before the kage fight. He must have used it in life one or more times at which point the one who saw it died.

Besides that PS is merely a susanoo upgrade a more advanced MS ability which has nothing to do with senju/rinnegan leaving the only option of it being a ability of madara himself. Which isnt farfetched because of madaras far higher then avarage skills with: His fan, Katon and other things.

That does not matter as konan does not have prep.

We dont have anyway to measure their iq's. And even if we did we couldnt say who is smarter. Booksmart? Battlesmart? Both? Strategy? Anyway claiming anyone is smarter is wrong because it cannot be supported in any way. If anyone would be smarter it would be madara as they pretty much were controled by his personal puppet.

Or madara realizes he can die from C4 through sharigan precog (like sasuke) Brings out PS and slices everything to bits. And burns what ever is left of C4.
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Susanoo has tanked worse things like full on combination attacks of 5 kage level ninjas.
Does atttacks are different than C4! You breath it in and it is not an energy beam

Sasuke did not fly away so having wings does not matter.
Having a wing in his CS2 state is better than not having one at all! The point is we have seen Saskue jump and his ablities. The wing gives him an advantage! Plus Sasori and Konan would not let him go into the air to mess with Dediara so easily

Yes, as madara claimed anyone who ever sees it has died. As he only has recently been resurrected and hasnt used PS before the kage fight. He must have used it in life one or more times at which point the one who saw it died.
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Besides that PS is merely a susanoo upgrade a more advanced MS ability which has nothing to do with senju/rinnegan leaving the only option of it being a ability of madara himself. Which isnt farfetched because of madaras far higher then avarage skills with: His fan, Katon and other things.
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That does not matter as konan does not have prep.
she still has paper bombs and other paper spam attacks

We dont have anyway to measure their iq's. And even if we did we couldnt say who is smarter. Booksmart? Battlesmart? Both? Strategy? Anyway claiming anyone is smarter is wrong because it cannot be supported in any way. If anyone would be smarter it would be madara as they pretty much were controled by his personal puppet.
We know Shikamaru is smarter than Kiba and most other ninja. Choji is not very bright either.
Knowledge does not matter
Madara has no idea of their abilities

Or madara realizes he can die from C4 through sharigan precog (like sasuke) Brings out PS and slices everything to bits. And burns what ever is left of C4.
PS does not help ! And it would be OOC for Madara to use that right away after one jutsu! Madara would still breath in the bombs!
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PS does not help ! And it would be OOC for Madara to use that right away after one jutsu! Madara would still breath in the bombs!
It would be when he realizes that he could possibly die from C4 through sharingan precog (like sauce) and gets serious to protect his life.

Besides the fact that madara used out of boredom against the kages i think potential death is enough reason for him to use it.

For the smarts thing just an example.
Naruto was dumb having no kind of talent for even the simplest of ninjutsu like bunshin no jutsu.
Sakura is regarded as a smarter student aced bunshin no jutsu the first try and is praised with great chakra control.
(Or you could also look at the chunin exams when had to take the test sakura easily looked smarter)

Yet in direct battle naruto has shown more strategy/intelligence wise then sakura ever did.
Its better to not mention it because its hard to compare unless it an character clearly far above avarage like shikaku/shikamaru.
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