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Old 09-15-2012, 06:26 PM   #1
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Default Team Hiruzen vs. Team Minato

Team Hiruzen: Hiruzen Sarutobi, Orochimaru, Jiraiya, and Tsunade
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Team Minato: Minato Namikaze, Obito Uchiha, Kakashi Hatake, and Rin

Location/Starting Distance/Prep: Konoha, 50 meters, no prep.

Restrictions/Stipulation: All characters are in their primes. Kamui cannot be used as a kill-shot, however it can be used to disable opponents (take out an arm or leg) and against objects, jutsus and summonings. Since the frog summonings' loyalties would be split I've decided that Gamabunta will be on Minato's team and Ma and Pa will be on Jiraiya's team-Jiraiya can also summon any other frogs smaller than a boss frog (i.e. no Ken or Hiro).
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No Kurama or Jinchuriki Paths for Obito. He can summon Gedo Maza, but it doesn't have the power of the Bijuu in it-i.e. it can punch and step on stuff, but that's it.


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Old 09-15-2012, 06:33 PM   #2
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Default Re: Team Hiruzen vs. Team Minato

I did not know which obito until I say the spoiler. Well I do not see Team Hiruzen winning this

Well Rin gets taken out by Genjutsu so she does not help BUT!!!!!!!!! That would piss off her teammates especially Obito emotionally this would give her teammates major inner strength!

Also Obito can summon Kurama or trap the team in a fire encapment wall or kuami their arn away

Jiryria gets beaten by....

-Minato: He is way faster than Jiryria. He can throw FTG kunai and blitz with his Rasengan Before he gets into SM. With No prep it would be hard to go into SM especially with no boss toads

-Kakashi: Jiryria has no speed feats so Jiryria would easily be defeated by kauming his arm or long-ranged lighting ninjutsu. Without boss toads and no prep Jiryria is really at a disadvantage. Kakashi has all kinds of ninjutsu to counter his.

- Obito: he can send insanly powerful fire attacks at Jiryria and his ninjutsu is nothing to counter it. Obito can kuami him to another his arm so he can not go into SM or summon Kurama or capture them in the fire encapment pillar

Tsunade gets beaten by ( it would take time for her to go into her full yin mode)

-Kakashi: knows to keep his distance from her so he would use long-ranged ninjutsu! He would Kaumi her arm so she could not throw a good punch. Kakashi excels in long ranged ninjutsu! Also Tsunade is the one of the slowest on her team. A water and lighting combo would be the end for Tsunade.

- Obito: his fire attacks would be very deadly! Puching them away would be useless because of the kaumi effect of his fire combo. Also fire encapment wall would due her and her summoning into submission. Plus Tsunade is not good with genjutsu so once she is caught in that the battle would be over for her

-Minato: Like I said Tsunade is slow so Minato blitz and uses rasengan! Minato teleports the acid away right back at it. Also Gama would keep Katyasu busy especially with long ranged water/oil attacks. Minato can throw a paperbomb to make a HUGE explosion as well

Hiruzen is beaten by ( at best Hiruzen would tie due to Demon Sealing, but lets keep in mind he is all hype in prime)

-Kakashi: Kaumi to the arm would severly set back Hiruzen from using ninjutsu. Plus Kakashi has water,earth, and lightingi style to counter Hiruzen's elemental ninjutsu. Kakashi's Kinken would keep Enma busy for a while as well. Kakashi is very fast and would keep his distance from Hiruzen and avoid close combat. Once Hiruzen's arm is gone it is over ninjutsu/tai jutsu wise. WHen Hiruzen is caught in genjutsu the battle would be over. Again a water/lighting style combo would be deadly. Prime Hiruzen is All hype

-Minato: If Enma is summonned than gama would be summoned. A water or oil/paperbomb combo would do even prime hiruzen in for the day. No way he is as fast as Minato so Minato could blitz than Rasengan or teleport his long range attacks away from harm. Minato would be aware of Demon Sealing so hiruzen would not win that way

-Obito: Kaumi on the arm would stop him from usin ninjutsu and encapment wall would limit his movements but if he can not summon kurama than I think the is the only one Hiruzen can beat.

Oro is beaten by

- Kakashi: I am getting tired of typing but I do not see how Kakashi wins

-Obito: Maybe kurama or encapment wall would stop Oro but I doubt he would win

-Minato: demon sealing is the only way he can win

Oro is the biggest threat but he can not take out both of them at once. 1v1 maybe

Well anyway Team Minato wins


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Old 09-15-2012, 07:08 PM   #3
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^ Jiraiya could use SoTU before Kakashi Kamui's anything. Even if he doesin't catch them that should force Kakashi and Minato to to jump to safety giving Jiraiya time to summon Ma and Pa.

Tsunade summons Katsuyu in that time and spits on them.
If Minato tries to FTG to Tsunade before she summons, Jiraiya's hair blocks his special Kunai knocking it into the swamp.

Obito is the only real threat to Jiraiya and Tsunade combined as they would have to do something to force him to take damage from a Kamui'd attack or while hes in his "tangible" state.

I'd say Katsuyu spits on them all and Kakashi warps most of the acid away. At the same time Jiraiya, Hiruzen, and Orochimaru attack Obito forcing him to turn intangible.

Obito dies. Rin is essentially a nonfactor in this fight.
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^ Jiraiya could use SoTU before Kakashi Kamui's anything. Even if he doesin't catch them that should force Kakashi and Minato to to jump to safety giving Jiraiya time to summon Ma and Pa.
Minato summons Gama to get away from the smart or teleports himself and his team away from harm. Kakashi can also use earth wall to get away from the swamp.

Tsunade summons Katsuyu in that time and spits on them.
If Minato tries to FTG to Tsunade before she summons, Jiraiya's hair blocks his special Kunai knocking it into the swamp.
Minato can teleport the acid away or the acid can be kaumi'd away or Gama can help them gain distance away from the acid. Obito would set Jiryria's hair on fire or kakashi could Kaumi it or slice it with lighitng or Obito could trap Jiryria or Tsunade in a fire encapment wall

Obito is the only real threat to Jiraiya and Tsunade combined as they would have to do something to force him to take damage from a Kamui'd attack or while hes in his "tangible" state.
but how is the question especially when they have no knowledge

I'd say Katsuyu spits on them all and Kakashi warps most of the acid away. At the same time Jiraiya, Hiruzen, and Orochimaru attack Obito forcing him to turn intangible.
I already explained how the aicd is countered above. And Minato and Kakasi would help out Obito

Obito dies. Rin is essentially a nonfactor in this fight
Rin is the emotional trigger for Obito/Kakashi. This would make them even stronger
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Obito in his prime I am guessing he has his rinngean and his 6 jinchuriki paths? If so he solos.
If not Obito can still summon Kurama since Naruto isn't involved in this. Kakashi can take out Jiraiya, Kakashi is superior in everyway when Jiraiya is in base form. Orochimaru is a threat with all his Jutsu and he has one of the best durability but Obito summon Kurama to demolish Orochimaru. The 3rd Hokage poses no real threat from what I know, we have never seen his prime and when we did see him he wasn't impressive at all. As for Tsunade Minato should be able to kill her but if not Tsunade is not landing a hit on Minato and he will just wait for back up. Team Minato has too much firepower, boss Frog summonings, Kurama, 2 space time ninjutsu specialist who are very hard to hit, 2 MS users, and Rin... who will get killed.
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Changed the OP slightly, specifically in the spoiler section. In case you guys are too lazy to reread the OP I'll list the change here Obito is not allowed to summon Kurama or use the Jinchuriki Paths. He can however summon Gedo Maza, but it doesn't have the power of any Bijuu inside it. It can punch and step on stuff, but that's about it.
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Well my opinon still stands I still say Team Minato wins


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@ILIKEPIE: Obito summoned Kurama in the Leaf village after he extracted it from Kushina.

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no matter he can not summon it anyway

btw Obito can kaumi his friends and himself out of SOtU
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Changed the OP slightly, specifically in the spoiler section. In case you guys are too lazy to reread the OP I'll list the change here Obito is not allowed to summon Kurama or use the Jinchuriki Paths. He can however summon Gedo Maza, but it doesn't have the power of any Bijuu inside it. It can punch and step on stuff, but that's about it.
Well that changes it just a bit. With all those restriction Obito doesn't have any of his powerful attacks now. But they really can't hit Obito and current Kakashi is on par if not above everyone on the other team. Minato with Gambunta should be able to slit Orochimaru throat with his Space time ninjutsu. Kakashi takes out Hiruzen with Raikiri and clones, we don't know how strong Hiruzen in his prime is and every hype made in part 1 can just be forgot by now, God Of Shinobi my ass. Rin is killed and Obito holds off Tsunade until back up came because they will need all the attacks theyc an get to kill Tsunade. Kakashi and Minato would destroy Jiraiya once Rin dies even if he manage to go in the SM and I would think Minato knows about the frog song. We still don't know what Tsunade is capable of healing from or what her healing limitations are but I highly doubt she can revive her teammates who will be dead. If she survived get split blown in half I don't really know how they can kill her but her chakra will run out eventually. Or maybe the Gedo Statue will smash her, maybe Obito could teleport her to the bottom of the ocean.
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^ Obito still has powerful attacks
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^ He can also use Earth style efficiently........Don't know how that will help much with a swamp covering the field at some point though.
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Well now he does but a few chps ago no way. Juubbi is just... Er Mer Gerd
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