Spoiler: chapter 604 - Page 6

WishfulFairie · 10-02-2012, 10:55 AM

I will love Kakashi til the very end. I refuse to believe he is evil

WishfulFairie · 10-02-2012, 11:03 AM

I get it now. Kishi is some sick guy that hates humanity and since he can't kill us all directly, he's decided to make chapter that would cause mass hysteria, destroying our minds and eventually leading to devestation in crops and starvation.
He hates us!!

How does one conceive to fix a plot hole by jumbling it all up. "you let Rin die" there was no "because you killed Rin"!!! And everything else I want to say was taken by BMC

Vivi · 10-02-2012, 11:06 AM

Heres the main reason why some other force is in play.

"I'll promise I protect Rin through Life and Death"

Anbu_DAN · 10-02-2012, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black King

Not everyone makes the chapter the 1st priority of their day. >__>

its called being a fan bro! I alllways check on tuesdays b/c sometimes its out early

Opacityzero · 10-02-2012, 11:14 AM

I think everyone knows Kakashi didn't kill her "just because" and that there's some explanation.

Either way, if it's not an illusion, Kakashi crying tells us that that's the real Rin, whether controlled or whatever the reason. That makes it so much more exciting.

I'm just pleased Kishi didn't go down the "Kakashi accidentally kills Rin" or "Kakashi fails to save Rin from the enemy" path, because that's what I was really expecting. This way, assuming it's not a genjutsu, explains Kakashi's guilt much better than the aforementioned scenarios would have. Hence, more tension and potential interesting outcomes.

Vivi · 10-02-2012, 11:19 AM

Uhm.....why did Obito hold his left eye when seeing Rin get stabbed?

Shouldn't he have seen it with the right?

And it seems Obito arrived at the moment Rin was stabbed.
Yet he saw it per "eye".

Am I supposed to believe Kakashi stabbed her for so long and Rin standing for such a long time?

JLI2infinity · 10-02-2012, 11:23 AM

I have a prediction here. I have a feeling Obito will be angry at Kakashi at first, obviously, but I feel like he's going to understand Kakashi being placed in the position where he had to kill here. That leads to a much more logical path to Obito hating the ninja world. It forced his best friend to kill the girl he loved. If he was just angry at Kakashi it would make sense to kill him and then go back no need for Akatsuki or this elaborate plan, but if he was angry at the entire shinobi world that needs a lot more effort to destroy.

This also shows some amazing foreshadowing from waaaaaaay back in the third episode. I thought the preparation exercise where Kakashi put a kunai to Sasuke's throat and said "Sakura kill Naruto or Sasuke dies" had already been demonstrated when Yahiko killed himself to save Nagato and Konan, but I feel like this mission is going to be the result of a similar problem.

EDIT: I'm glad some of you aren't writers though lol, because some of the same people I see constantly criticizing Kishi as an author, have proposed some AWFUL solutions. When will you guys get that Kishi isn't some sort of guy who looks for cheap cop outs. It's a clone, it's genjutsu,

...do you guys know how to build suspense in a story? Do you know how much the public has grown to hate the "It was all just a dream" narrative? It's something you will barely find in PG-13 movies anymore because it's so juvenile. I'm 90% sure this is the real Rin and that Kakashi is aware of what he was doing. As for the weak medical ninja being a highly trained spy, I mean we've kind of seen that before >.> so I guess it's not too unbelievable I just don't think Kishi will do that one either.

Vivi · 10-02-2012, 11:32 AM

Oh

!! Oros scroll, changing the tide of war, the one who knows everything!

kevzz010 · 10-02-2012, 11:42 AM

What the heck was that? I thought rin lived in Kakashi's Gaiden chapters? Didn't minato save them both? What the heck is going on!

WishfulFairie · 10-02-2012, 11:43 AM

Yeah when is Oro and Sasuke returning to the storyline?

Vivi · 10-02-2012, 11:49 AM

GUUUUUUUYS.

Changing the tide of war, the one who knows everything, so much stink behind this!

A complete reversal of circumstances = Turning the tide.

Quote:

Circumstance - A condition or fact attending an event and having some bearing on it

It all ain't true and Oro found out explaining his relationship to Obito.
Rin is alive and is the one who knows everything.
Turning the tide of war = showing Obito Rin is alive.
Obito will betray Madara.

WishfulFairie · 10-02-2012, 11:58 AM

Well then Kishi sucks at writing since nearly everyone guessed that Rin is alive and/or he betrays Madara (which is more likely)

Kakashi Hatake_Yamato · 10-02-2012, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WishfulFairie

I will love Kakashi til the very end. I refuse to believe he is evil

same. He is a good man and shinobi.

Vivi · 10-02-2012, 11:59 AM

I think this fits well as it'd mean Madara vs everyone.

Kakashi Hatake_Yamato · 10-02-2012, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vivi

GUUUUUUUYS.

Changing the tide of war, the one who knows everything, so much stink behind this!

A complete reversal of circumstances = Turning the tide.

It all ain't true and Oro found out explaining his relationship to Obito.
Rin is alive and is the one who knows everything.
Turning the tide of war = showing Obito Rin is alive.
Obito will betray Madara.

this sounds pretty good.

WishfulFairie · 10-02-2012, 12:05 PM

Yeah it would...but Madara vs the world could happen if someone kills Obito. I don't want Rin to be "resurrected" I'm tired of everyone being a Jesus on Naruto or someone going "I'm alive [censored]!" in all honesty, I don't want Rin to come back. It's just to sappy and sweet for my liking, Vivi.
I want bloodshed!!! They are ninjas for goodness sake's!! Not zombies that can return to the storyline whenever Kishi misses them

Kyūbi no Yōko · 10-02-2012, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikudo Sage

In recent chapters Tobi said.. "because you let Rin die" he didnt say "because you killed Rin" so Kakashi didnt really kill her on purpose...

We cannot really acuse Madara being the culprit of Rin's death here just because he said "you'll come back and will thank me blah blah"

Maybe.. Its just simply like this.. Madara knows that there is no hope in this world.. Zetsu can send the information through Zetsu's over the air or something like that therefore, Madara knows what's going on then he let Obito witnessed that scene so that he can tell to Obito...

"See I told you.. There's no hope in this friggin world.. lets go create a new world.. blah blah blah..."

Also how could Madara manipulated Anbu's and Jonin's on his weakened condition..??? A bunch of transformed Zetsu's would be more plausible if that's the case...

Madara is still the mastermind.

It was just a hypothesis. Tell me why did Madara say 'you'll come back and will thank me blah blah', what's the reason behind it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajuuk

Human instinct will make people look at threads like this. It's this that results in anyone editing the thread title if someone puts Tobi's identity in the thread title while the anime is behind >_>

Town Bookstore is specifically for manga mostly, since Anime is way behind and this is full of spoilers.
I have no guilt in this case though.

Black King · 10-02-2012, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anbu_DAN

its called being a fan bro! I alllways check on tuesdays b/c sometimes its out early

Well, I get on the forum, and if I see a discussion thread then I'll go read it. xD Much easier than being on the edge of your seat about the chapter on a Tuesday morning. Doesn't mean you're not a fan if you do it that way.

Maruko · 10-02-2012, 12:19 PM

Chidori, a technique used for thrusting at high speed!
It increases penetration power and it makes the area numb!
Oh, such pervyness.

Black King · 10-02-2012, 12:22 PM

xD Maruko..you forgot that it breaks hearts. Literally.

10-02-2012, 11:06 AM	#103
Vivi Little Miss Spoiler Formerly V-Valentine Jonin Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Deutschland Posts: 13,974 Rep Power: 23 Member's Picture Albums	Re: chapter 604 Heres the main reason why some other force is in play. "I'll promise I protect Rin through Life and Death" __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Jessie>Tifa and Aeris. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-02-2012, 11:19 AM	#106
Vivi Little Miss Spoiler Formerly V-Valentine Jonin Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Deutschland Posts: 13,974 Rep Power: 23 Member's Picture Albums	Re: chapter 604 Uhm.....why did Obito hold his left eye when seeing Rin get stabbed? Shouldn't he have seen it with the right? And it seems Obito arrived at the moment Rin was stabbed. Yet he saw it per "eye". Am I supposed to believe Kakashi stabbed her for so long and Rin standing for such a long time? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Jessie>Tifa and Aeris. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-02-2012, 11:23 AM	#107
JLI2infinity Veteran Chunin Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,284 Rep Power: 6	Re: chapter 604 I have a prediction here. I have a feeling Obito will be angry at Kakashi at first, obviously, but I feel like he's going to understand Kakashi being placed in the position where he had to kill here. That leads to a much more logical path to Obito hating the ninja world. It forced his best friend to kill the girl he loved. If he was just angry at Kakashi it would make sense to kill him and then go back no need for Akatsuki or this elaborate plan, but if he was angry at the entire shinobi world that needs a lot more effort to destroy. This also shows some amazing foreshadowing from waaaaaaay back in the third episode. I thought the preparation exercise where Kakashi put a kunai to Sasuke's throat and said "Sakura kill Naruto or Sasuke dies" had already been demonstrated when Yahiko killed himself to save Nagato and Konan, but I feel like this mission is going to be the result of a similar problem. EDIT: I'm glad some of you aren't writers though lol, because some of the same people I see constantly criticizing Kishi as an author, have proposed some AWFUL solutions. When will you guys get that Kishi isn't some sort of guy who looks for cheap cop outs. It's a clone, it's genjutsu, ...do you guys know how to build suspense in a story? Do you know how much the public has grown to hate the "It was all just a dream" narrative? It's something you will barely find in PG-13 movies anymore because it's so juvenile. I'm 90% sure this is the real Rin and that Kakashi is aware of what he was doing. As for the weak medical ninja being a highly trained spy, I mean we've kind of seen that before >.> so I guess it's not too unbelievable I just don't think Kishi will do that one either. Last edited by JLI2infinity; 10-02-2012 at 11:33 AM.

10-02-2012, 11:32 AM	#108
Vivi Little Miss Spoiler Formerly V-Valentine Jonin Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Deutschland Posts: 13,974 Rep Power: 23 Member's Picture Albums	Re: chapter 604 Oh !! Oros scroll, changing the tide of war, the one who knows everything! __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Jessie>Tifa and Aeris. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-02-2012, 11:42 AM	#109
kevzz010 Freshmen Academy Student Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Re: chapter 604 What the heck was that? I thought rin lived in Kakashi's Gaiden chapters? Didn't minato save them both? What the heck is going on!

10-02-2012, 11:59 AM	#114
Vivi Little Miss Spoiler Formerly V-Valentine Jonin Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Deutschland Posts: 13,974 Rep Power: 23 Member's Picture Albums	Re: chapter 604 I think this fits well as it'd mean Madara vs everyone. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Jessie>Tifa and Aeris. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-02-2012, 12:19 PM	#119
Maruko Winter is Coming Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 12,317 Rep Power: 33	Re: Kakashi didn't kill anyone ON PURPOSE Chidori, a technique used for thrusting at high speed! It increases penetration power and it makes the area numb! Oh, such pervyness. __________________

10-02-2012, 12:22 PM	#120
Black King Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: My Head's in Heaven, My Soles are in Hell. Posts: 4,692 Rep Power: 14	Re: Kakashi didn't kill anyone ON PURPOSE xD Maruko..you forgot that it breaks hearts. Literally. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)