Tsuna VS HST

Uchiha Sora · 09-26-2012, 05:24 AM

Is there anyone he can't beat?

He starts in True Dying Will Mode(from newest chapter)

Godaime Kazekage · 09-28-2012, 07:38 PM

Plenty of people-Bijuu Mode Naruto, Final Getsuga Tensho Ichigo, Aizen, Edo Madara, Danzo, and most high level logia types to name a few.

The only thing Tsuna showed in the new chapter is that he has insanely fast reaction speed. I always thought Dying Will was one of the stupidest powers as well...why did it have to be brought back? Well, at least he has clothes on now.

BMC1994 · 09-29-2012, 03:25 AM

Can he survive the heat of the sun? Otherwise yamamoto solos.

Vivi · 09-29-2012, 05:19 AM

Meh.Its said to be the heat of the core though Kubo messed that up.If it'd really be all of SS would be roasted to nothingness.Instead Ukitake is just feeling thirsty.

Uchiha Sora · 09-29-2012, 06:01 AM

I can see how some of those characters win.

Edo Dara only wins because he's an Edo. Logias only win cu they're logias. But if Tsuna can use ZPB in that form then he could just freeze them.Although if Tsuna displays a stronger X-Attack in this form then it'll probably be strong enough to just reduce them to ashes. But Logia can't really go intangible against beams/lasers though can they?

Aizen was pretty much the same as cell right? If even a little part of him is alive he regens?

idk about FGT Ichigo. And Naruto definitley wont be tagging him eiter. He can absorb their energy attacks with ZPB Revised too. Just beefin him up even more.

Tsuna was already in the hypersonic range before his newest upgrade. And he was still getting blitzed by Bermuda. Now he's casually blocking every blitz in his onslaught of blitzes. Even REBORN couldn't keep up as well as Tsuna does now. Reborn has always been known as the fastest/strongest in the verse... until Bermuda.

And Yamamoto's heat seems like hype, the same as when Tsuna escaped a black hole.
Which would make Tsuna FTL

Maybe I'm misunderstanding True Dying Will Mode though. Now that i think about it, Tsuna would be slower movement wise without his gloves. I neeeed to see the next chapter...

Btw whats the general policy with afterimages?

BMC1994 · 09-29-2012, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Vivi

Meh.Its said to be the heat of the core though Kubo messed that up.If it'd really be all of SS would be roasted to nothingness.Instead Ukitake is just feeling thirsty.

I dont think our world is comparable to the spirit world that is Sereitei.

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Originally Posted by Uchiha Sora

Aizen was pretty much the same as cell right? If even a little part of him is alive he regens?

And Yamamoto's heat seems like hype, the same as when Tsuna escaped a black hole.

Which aizen Butterflaizen or Troll aizen

I can understand where you are coming from but
Why would it be hype i mean he specificly stated the temperature. And its atleast hot enough to burn things out of existance.

Uchiha Sora · 09-29-2012, 06:53 AM

I've never actually read the chapter when Yamamoto does it.

But the same could be said for the black holes. Enma created planets/stars that crushed themselves with their own gravity, and formed black holes. Light couldn't escape, but Tsuna did.

And I don't remember the difference between the two Aizen. Isn't it the same either way? Due to that hogyoku thing?

BMC1994 · 09-29-2012, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Uchiha Sora

I've never actually read the chapter when Yamamoto does it.

But the same could be said for the black holes. Enma created planets/stars that crushed themselves by their own gravity, and formed black wholes. Light couldn't escape, but Tsuna did.

Depends where were they created in a mirror version of our world/universe(where our laws would apply) or in some fantasy world.

This is just a minor example to show what i mean.

Seireitei is different then our world. This is easily proved by uryuu ishida.

Its stated that seireitei consists of spirit particles. Quincy can absorb said particles.
In the 'real world' (karakura town). Uryuu is unable to absorb the particles of buildings and such (which would probably be atoms/molecules).

In seireitei uryuu was able to absorb the spirit particles that the surroundings(buildings) where made of in his fight with mayuri.

Thus its an different world. And the temperature of the sun wouldnt neccesaily destroy seireitei as fast as it would destroy our world.

This is just where i am coming from but i am 99%sure if yamamoto would bankai in karakura town there would not be much of a difference. :P

Uchiha Sora · 09-29-2012, 07:03 AM

Well they live on OUR earth, and not some different version of earth like DBZ. (They talk about Japan and Italy)

Also Reborn said something along the lines of "a black hole, it has a pull so strong not even light can escape it!"

Vivi · 09-29-2012, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BMC1994

I dont think our world is comparable to the spirit world that is Sereitei.

It's not just the world.
Yamamotos Bankai should burn everyone to ashes instead of just making them feel thirsty.

And yeah it is comparable considering its stated to be enough to destroy Soul Society.

BMC1994 · 09-29-2012, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Vivi

It's not just the world.
Yamamotos Bankai should burn everyone to ashes instead of just making them feel thirsty.

And yeah it is comparable considering its stated to be enough to destroy Soul Society.

Yes but in our it would insta burn everything. But our world is not made of spirit particles which might be more resistant to heat. Which would explain why everything in SS is not burned to ashes YET.

Its just an possible explanation.

Devils Lawyer · 09-29-2012, 09:50 AM

Yamato's bankai effects was being blocked by his control. The other dude whathisface also had protection. Which is why he wasn't ash instantly.

Uchiha Sora · 10-02-2012, 12:03 PM

Welp, Tsuna has FTL reactions now

He can react to Goku

Devils Lawyer · 10-02-2012, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Uchiha Sora

Welp, Tsuna has FTL reactions now

He can react to Goku

Was just about to post this.

Uchiha Sora · 10-02-2012, 03:44 PM

^hard to believe little old Tsuna is up there in the FTL range

Can't say the same for his durability though... yet..
If his speed and attacks got a boost too then he could possibly solo each verse

Devils Lawyer · 10-02-2012, 04:58 PM

Nope he still does fairly fast his durability and destructive capabilities aren't quite there. Though with his speed he could destroy the majority minus maybe tops. He would die of exhaustion.

JLI2infinity · 10-02-2012, 05:55 PM

Yamamoto solos. He is the embodiment of the sun's core. Unless Tsuna can deal with that heat he'll die by just staying in it too long. Yamamoto can just sit there until the battlefield gets destroyed by his presence.

321zigzag3 · 10-02-2012, 05:59 PM

Tsuna being FTL

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Uchiha Sora · 10-02-2012, 06:01 PM

@JLi It wasn't 1 Vs the entire HST. But yeah we've been over Yamamoto. I don't read bleach anymore so that was new to me

321zigzag3 · 10-02-2012, 06:04 PM

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Btw whats the general policy with afterimages?

In the manga its general to showcase how fast the character is going as in lol hype speed he is soo FAASST!

Its a manga trope.

Or it could be a specific speed technique.

In reality though an afterimage is dependent on your reaction speed and distance.

Or it is an actual thing created by a technique of any kind.

09-26-2012, 05:24 AM	#1
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09-28-2012, 07:38 PM	#2
Godaime Kazekage Chunin Exam Proctor Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,569 Rep Power: 12	Re: Tsuna VS HST Plenty of people-Bijuu Mode Naruto, Final Getsuga Tensho Ichigo, Aizen, Edo Madara, Danzo, and most high level logia types to name a few. The only thing Tsuna showed in the new chapter is that he has insanely fast reaction speed. I always thought Dying Will was one of the stupidest powers as well...why did it have to be brought back? Well, at least he has clothes on now. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Vivi Little Miss Spoiler Formerly V-Valentine Jonin Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Deutschland Posts: 13,974 Rep Power: 23 Member's Picture Albums	Re: Tsuna VS HST Meh.Its said to be the heat of the core though Kubo messed that up.If it'd really be all of SS would be roasted to nothingness.Instead Ukitake is just feeling thirsty. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Jessie>Tifa and Aeris. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Uchiha Sora Has a Keyblade Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Chillin with Mabel and Waddles in Gravity Falls Posts: 9,687 Rep Power: 15	Re: Tsuna VS HST I can see how some of those characters win. Edo Dara only wins because he's an Edo. Logias only win cu they're logias. But if Tsuna can use ZPB in that form then he could just freeze them.Although if Tsuna displays a stronger X-Attack in this form then it'll probably be strong enough to just reduce them to ashes. But Logia can't really go intangible against beams/lasers though can they? Aizen was pretty much the same as cell right? If even a little part of him is alive he regens? idk about FGT Ichigo. And Naruto definitley wont be tagging him eiter. He can absorb their energy attacks with ZPB Revised too. Just beefin him up even more. Tsuna was already in the hypersonic range before his newest upgrade. And he was still getting blitzed by Bermuda. Now he's casually blocking every blitz in his onslaught of blitzes. Even REBORN couldn't keep up as well as Tsuna does now. Reborn has always been known as the fastest/strongest in the verse... until Bermuda. And Yamamoto's heat seems like hype, the same as when Tsuna escaped a black hole. Which would make Tsuna FTL Maybe I'm misunderstanding True Dying Will Mode though. Now that i think about it, Tsuna would be slower movement wise without his gloves. I neeeed to see the next chapter... Btw whats the general policy with afterimages? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Uchiha Sora; 09-29-2012 at 06:04 AM.

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Uchiha Sora Has a Keyblade Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Chillin with Mabel and Waddles in Gravity Falls Posts: 9,687 Rep Power: 15	Re: Tsuna VS HST I've never actually read the chapter when Yamamoto does it. But the same could be said for the black holes. Enma created planets/stars that crushed themselves with their own gravity, and formed black holes. Light couldn't escape, but Tsuna did. And I don't remember the difference between the two Aizen. Isn't it the same either way? Due to that hogyoku thing? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Uchiha Sora; 09-29-2012 at 06:59 AM.

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Uchiha Sora Has a Keyblade Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Chillin with Mabel and Waddles in Gravity Falls Posts: 9,687 Rep Power: 15	Re: Tsuna VS HST Well they live on OUR earth, and not some different version of earth like DBZ. (They talk about Japan and Italy) Also Reborn said something along the lines of "a black hole, it has a pull so strong not even light can escape it!" __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Uchiha Sora Has a Keyblade Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Chillin with Mabel and Waddles in Gravity Falls Posts: 9,687 Rep Power: 15	Re: Tsuna VS HST Welp, Tsuna has FTL reactions now He can react to Goku __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Uchiha Sora Has a Keyblade Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Chillin with Mabel and Waddles in Gravity Falls Posts: 9,687 Rep Power: 15	Re: Tsuna VS HST ^hard to believe little old Tsuna is up there in the FTL range Can't say the same for his durability though... yet.. If his speed and attacks got a boost too then he could possibly solo each verse __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Uchiha Sora; 10-02-2012 at 03:48 PM.

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JLI2infinity Veteran Chunin Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,284 Rep Power: 6	Re: Tsuna VS HST Yamamoto solos. He is the embodiment of the sun's core. Unless Tsuna can deal with that heat he'll die by just staying in it too long. Yamamoto can just sit there until the battlefield gets destroyed by his presence.

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Uchiha Sora Has a Keyblade Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Chillin with Mabel and Waddles in Gravity Falls Posts: 9,687 Rep Power: 15	Re: Tsuna VS HST @JLi It wasn't 1 Vs the entire HST. But yeah we've been over Yamamoto. I don't read bleach anymore so that was new to me __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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