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Old 09-28-2012, 06:11 PM   #1
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The villain from the first arc of Naruto vs. the villain from the first arc of Legend of Korra. Standard Battlegrounds settings, except a ring of water as deep and wide as an Olympic pool is placed around the battlefield. Speed is equalized. Who wins?
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I'm gonna go with zabuza considering he should have better attack speed plus at his last appearrance in the manga I think he was one of the ET ninjas tho I don't think we can count that in this case

But still fairly even but zabuza should come out on top
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Amon turns the water into ice and kills Zabuza with bloodbending. GG.
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Amon uses bloodbending. and crushes Zabuza's organs with it. gg
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Amon turns the water into ice and kills Zabuza with bloodbending. GG.
Nitpick, but Amon doesn't actually have any ice-making feats. In fact his only pure waterbending feat is the water spout he made after being knocked out a window by Korra (and moving a little bit of water around in the flashback of being trained by his dad).
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Well this thread is really strange because there's no real counter to blood bending in the Narutoverse. So if Amon grabs Zabuza it should be a wrap, because the only known ways to break out are the Avatar State and extreme willpower. Then again this is the guy who killed all his friends to become a shinobi, and worked for years performing assassinations and espionage. His mental fortitude must be insane. I'd say his will power is LEAGUES ahead of Mako's who happened to break out (even though Aang, Sokka, and Toph couldn't after 20+ years of training which is bs).

Or if Zabuza gets his mist up he should be ok for a little while. Amon doesn't know about ninja techniques and so when he uses his bending to clear the mist, he could target a Zabuza clone. Then while he's in shock the real Zabuza appears behind him and lops his head off before he even knows what happened.
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It doesn't come down to just mental fortitude. The only way shown to resist bloodbending is essentially to bloodbend yourself; that's how Katara broke free of Hama's bloodbending and how Amon resisted Tarrlok's bloodbending. Since the Avatar is a waterbender, I assume that the Avatar State is able to resist bloodbending the same way.

Mako didn't really resist through willpower; what he did was subtly hold his hands close enough to use lightning. Amon could have stopped him if he had held his hands apart, so it was sort of PIS. Amon could do much the same to Zabuza by holding his hands apart to keep him from using jutsu.

Also, according to BG rules each combatant gets basic knowledge of each other. The ability to make clones is a basic ninja ability so it would be fair to say that Amon has some knowledge of that ability. By the same token, though, Zabuza would know of Amon's bloodbending, and would do whatever he can to avoid it. Also, it's been suggested that Amon is able to sense the blood in people -- that could be how he found Korra, and it could be how he knew that Tarrlok was about to blow up the boat (he shed a tear right before) while being turned away from him. He would be able to tell if something is flesh and blood or if it's just water.

The mist is water btw, so Amon could be able to clear it away.
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Amon's reactions?
Because Zabu isn't exactly the slowest ninja.
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Because Zabu isn't exactly the slowest ninja.
I equalized speed in the OP to avoid that discussion.
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Nitpick, but Amon doesn't actually have any ice-making feats. In fact his only pure waterbending feat is the water spout he made after being knocked out a window by Korra (and moving a little bit of water around in the flashback of being trained by his dad).
Horse piss. He's a high level waterbender. That's like saying Lightning Bolt Zolt couldn't bend fire because all he's ever shown is lightning. Unless it is explicitly stated that he lacks the traditional capacity that other water benders possess, Combustion Man a la mode, he can make ice.

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Sure there is. It's called being disproportionately stronger, physically speaking, than anyone that has ever existed in Avatar. Tsunade could do it for example.

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The only time Mako ever got out of Amon's BB to my memory was when he zapped the guy with lightning.
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Horse piss. He's a high level waterbender. That's like saying Lightning Bolt Zolt couldn't bend fire because all he's ever shown is lightning. Unless it is explicitly stated that he lacks the traditional capacity that other water benders possess, Combustion Man a la mode, he can make ice.
Lightning Bolt Zolt actually did shoot several fireblasts at Amon before resorting to lightning. And I'm not objecting to the idea that Amon could turn water into ice at all, but rather the idea he could turn all the water I put into the arena into ice. It's a scale of freezing that I don't think any waterbender in the series has done. It's still more of a nitpick though as Amon doesn't really need to do it to win.

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Indeed. Just keep in mind the feats that various bloodbenders have. Yakone incapacitated a whole courtroom full of people, Tarrlok made 9 people collapse and pass out, and Amon played around with big ol' polar...oxen...things...(?) when he was a kid.
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Zabuza will get blood bended before he even knows whats going on.
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Kunai to the throat before he even makes a real movement.
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I don't see that happening if speed is equal.
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How would that work when the 4 elements and 'Pseudo-lightning' (just to avoid itz not realz discussions) couldnt do that from like 2 meters.

If anything is hitting him it wont be kunai.

Even without equal speed.
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I don't see that happening if speed is equal.
Speed has little to do with throwing a knife. Mainly its just strength and skill. Speed would probably come in at how fast he draws the knife. But the speed of the thrown knife comes from strength.
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I haven't seen Zabuza throw anything at a speed that can't easily be dodged, although I'm not really familiar with Amon's feats.
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I haven't seen Zabuza throw anything at a speed that can't easily be dodged, although I'm not really familiar with Amon's feats.
A speed that can't be dodged by who an individual who is a few times faster than anything in Avatar. If you haven't noticed the children are throwing a knife a few hundred meters. That is actually impressive in real world standards.
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Whatever kunais Zabuza throws at him, Amon will just make a wall of ice (since waterbenders can do that) but if ice bending won't be allowed or a wall of water and then snap Zabuza's neck with bloodbending. Zabuza dies the end
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