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Old 11-01-2012, 11:54 AM   #1
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I have to credit both Kalmeast and Dr.Kage for kind of putting these thoughts together indirectly and then somewhere in the recesses of my mind, i came up with an interesting thought that just sort of clicked a few moments ago. So bear with me while I attempt to really go into the details.

Kalmeast had gone into a great detail about how, potentially, the powers of the woodstyle weren't just a normal KG that was a result of a random pairing of water and earth. I quite agree with this because Hashirama was able to conjure a forest, something that was living! He had also stated that looking at the Gedo, which we now know is the body of the Juubi, that it was made of wood. So that theory lead to the idea that the wood style was not actually RS's KG at all, but perhaps a power of the Juubi itself.

That got me thinking, and through some conversation with Dr.Kage, and with Kalmeasts theory in the back of my mind, we continued to question the Sharingan and how it came about from the Rinnegan. We note the Sharingan is a destructive power more so than one that creates. With that said, we also saw the eye of the Juubi which looked like a massive Sharingan, and each swirl has 3 tomoe on it.

This leads me to state that RS's power weren't necessarily left to the Senju or Uchiha at all. The "eyes" so to speak that were left to the elder son were the eyes of the Juubi, or that particular KG that the sage derived from the Juubi. The "body" so to speak was the body of the Juubi, which was made of a type of wood, was left to the younger, Senju son. These powers were probably latent in all of their members, but only the elite were able to learn and master them to their fullest ability, thus what we see.

Finally, that leads to what RS left to the younger son in terms of being the heir. I would state that he left his knowledge of how to utilize the powers that he had been granted, he left the knowledge of the Bijuu. This was likely what was on the tablet that the Uchiha had (probably at some point taken).

That leaves the Uzumaki and Senju who are distantly related. The difference here is generally the difference in chakra. The Senju (who were never Jinchuriki as far as we know) were likely born blessed with the KG passed down their line. The Uzumaki were likely those born with chakra more similar to the sage himself, blessed with his knowledge, abilities and potentially his KG.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:40 PM   #2
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So the Uchiha were targeting the wrong enemies?

Does this make Madara a quack
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:56 PM   #3
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So the Uchiha were targeting the wrong enemies?

Does this make Madara a quack
Not necessarily! They aren't after the sage's KG or jutsu, I would state that the Juubi's power they are after. The feud still makes sense in a way, because essentially speaking it was over jealousy that this all happened. The elder and younger sons fought for year, but by the time it was the Uchiha and Senju it wasn't about who was the heir, it was more about pride and strength.

Edit: I could be wrong about how the Uzumaki fit into this mix, I know it seams a bit forced and that is because there is still so much an unknown here. The true facts are that we know they are distant relatives of the Senju and apparently Madara trusted Nagato and his family with his most prized power (his eyes). I would wonder if the Uzumaki are actually a clan that relates to both Senju and Uchiha in a way that would tie both the Senju & Uchiha together as a single clan...like I said though, still a lot of unknowns here.

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We don't know, maybe somewhere in the middle an Uchiha + Senju decided to go all Romeo and Juliet...

Then we have the Uzumaki
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I like the theory, but as I said in Kal's thread, why would a totally destructive being, such as Juubi, use a defensive style element?

Maybe Rikkudo did derive Yin and Yang chakra from the Juubi, only to later create both defensive and destructive Kekkei Genkais out of them.
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I like the theory, but as I said in Kal's thread, why would a totally destructive being, such as Juubi, use a defensive style element?

Maybe Rikkudo did derive Yin and Yang chakra from the Juubi, only to later create both defensive and destructive Kekkei Genkais out of them.
It isn't necessarily destructive. He had the power to create and destroy. The Juubi's power was sealed within RS, and with that he was able to realize a lot of power and transform the world. We see the destructive application of the wood style, but think about it in terms of what it can do, when not being used in such a way.

One could make the same statement about the Sharingan. Its based more on the user and the intent than the actual power itself. The user and the intent is really what we have to question in terms of the fighting. Having the power to create something and then potentially make it a reality (Woodstyle and Izanagi) is really something special.

It would also make more sense in terms of leaving "the eyes" and the "body" because even the sage cannot control how genetics are spread to his heirs, what he can control is the Juubi he has sealed within him. I would state that those powers were passed on when he separated the Juubi from its original form into the 9 Bijuu.

and Jak, that was kind of what I was thinking too, I am not 100% sure though. I am still working out the reasoning of how the Uzumaki and even the Hyuga are better related into this. Just a lot left floating around.
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