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Old 09-22-2012, 11:32 AM   #421
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Ah but. The premature earth bending wasn't. Anything above intermediate level was it now. Aang didn't prematurely earth bend an island like kyoshi. He moved. About as much as your average earthbender would be able to.

So yes the avatar state helps you do things you nrmally couldn't before mastering it. But you can't. Do highly advanced things until you master it.

In the thread you and bradley were trying to claim korra. Should be able to move islands and crap like that with an immature. AS. And then were trying to use the trailer for book two as a feat for her to have full AS when the episodes involving her mastering the AS haven't been released yet.
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Ah but. The premature earth bending wasn't. Anything above intermediate level was it now. Aang didn't prematurely earth bend an island like kyoshi. He moved. About as much as your average earthbender would be able to.

So yes the avatar state helps you do things you nrmally couldn't before mastering it. But you can't. Do highly advanced things until you master it.

In the thread you and bradley were trying to claim korra. Should be able to move islands and crap like that with an immature. AS. And then were trying to use the trailer for book two as a feat for her to have full AS when the episodes involving her mastering the AS haven't been released yet.
I was not using the second trailer as a argument at all i have never even mentioned it for that matter i have not even seen it. I did agree at the time with himself that she should be able to use but i believed so for mostly different reasons then bradley

I used the final episode as reference/feat (which you and cult claimed to be deus ex machina which i rectulantly agreed with)

The premature earth bending actually was quite high level ( i was taling about the time at the earth kingdom base where he was forced into it)

Where he made a earth/dust vortex around himself and essientially wrecked the entire base by himself. Those are absolutely not novice earth bender attacks the only earth bender having actual feats comparable to that would be the about 110 year old bumi who took omashu by himself. Which was basicly the strongest earth bender in the entire series. Your avarage earth bender is not wrecking whole bases and creating dust vortexes not even the more advanced earth benders in the series have shown to do something comparable to that.
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It can be argued that he used air bending either doley or in conjunction with EB to form the vortex
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It can be argued that he used air bending either doley or in conjunction with EB to form the vortex
Why not just form an air vortex then? (which would be closer to aangs own abilties)

And he still could not have used any kind of novice earth bending because it was

1. before he met toph
2. He never had any instruction to earth bend
3. He never had a natural talent for earth bending it even was his hardest element to master because it was the complete opposite of airbending.
4.And never displayed the ability to earth bend up until that point.
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Yeah I couldn't remember what the number was is all

Like I said you were annoying with it but not as much of a pain as bradley considering you didn't piss anyone off by trolling with it and whenn youwere given hard evidence that contradicted your claim backed off some.

Oh and by the way. You said you don't get the difference between control and mastery.

Well let's take driving for example

Say you have the ability to drive and how to use all the pedals and techniques down pat. Does having all the knowledge and access to and mentally knowing how to use those skills auto automatically make you the worlds best racer and stunt driver?

No it does not. why? Because while you know how to perform all the actions you don't have the physical skill to perform them

The same is true of the avatar state. Korra can have the knowledge of how to move islands but until she posseses the physical skill to do so she won't be able to do it properly

Now do you understand?
"Physical skill?" Roku directly tells Aang that he gets the skills of the past Avatars.

"The Avatar state is a defense mechanism, designed to empower you with the skills and knowledge of all the past Avatars. The glow is the combination of all your past lives, focusing their energy through your body."

The Avatar State gives the Avatar the past Avatars':

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It gives the Avatar everything the Avatar would need to do the feats that past Avatars have shown. Let's also not forget that Kyoshi's island-moving feat was done with the Avatar State in the first place.

There are several cases of the Avatar State being used for "premature bending" which Aang should have no knowledge of. Namely, there's freezing himself in an iceberg for 100 years, the high-level water funnel technique he used in the premiere (only used by Master Pakku and Korra elsewhere), using waterbending to get out of the ocean in "The Storm", and using earthbending to wreck the Earth Kingdom base in "The Avatar State" (yes, it well above "intermediate level". If you disagree, show me an "intermediate earthbender" doing something on that scale).

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One guy's argument (he actually sounded very logical about it)

Because Avatar State is akin to being a god and godlike, it should be compared to Rikudo Sage to Narutoverse. And also due to being Avatar state which has actual real life mythological hype and background. Planetary level. It was mainly on these lines.

There is so much illogic in this statement.
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Because Avatar State is akin to being a god and godlike, it should be compared to Rikudo Sage to Narutoverse. And also due to being Avatar state which has actual real life mythological hype and background. Planetary level. It was mainly on these lines.

There is so much illogic in this statement.
Still does not compute. Rikudo created an entire moon that is not comparable to mere island ceating/moving .
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Still does not compute. Rikudo created an entire moon that is not comparable to mere island ceating/moving .
Take in mind the island was small as Kyoshi divided it from the mainland and of course it was totally impractical in battle as it required her full concentration.

As for that guy's claim.
He was going by, applying real life mythological hype and god comparison.

In other words he was speculating. Sounds very logical but still speculative because it lacks concrete evidence.


Let alone the fact godlike or god is relative in fiction anyway.
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For what it's worth Kyoshi island has several mountains on it. Though it requiring her full concentration is a fair point. Possibly more impressive is the fact that Kyoshi cut down to the earth's mantle with her earthbending.
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or Conquest vs Roku? (for some reason because their both ancient Veterans this makes it a dream match..)


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LOL I WAS FRIENDS WITH YOU WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING IT

Ain't that a stinker!

haha stalker..
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Old 09-22-2012, 04:46 PM   #440
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You were! :3

Yes, yes it is a stinker.

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haha stalker..
More like a complete idiot XD
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