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Old 11-21-2012, 01:07 PM   #121
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If you don't feel your going anywhere for some people that's better than where they are know.
From an outsider it may seem selfish but you can never understand what someone pushed to that point is going through in their head
You said their problems could go away but for some people there is an aspect of genetics involved

I agree on one thing though, I would always be too scared and selfish to kill myself (not that I want to) there are just too many ways it can go wrong.
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Old 11-22-2012, 05:09 AM   #122
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Well then maybe that is why they should ask for professional help and get medicine
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Old 11-22-2012, 05:39 AM   #123
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Well then maybe that is why they should ask for professional help and get medicine
Seeing as my best friend took his life and I am currently dealing with depression it is not that easy.
People do not simply get better in one day - regardless of whether or not they have asked for help, nor does medicine always help.

If you're going to post on a topic that is so touchy for so many people then you should educate yourself. Otherwise you come off as a ignorant nine year old.
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Not that I'm saying it applies, but it's fairly easy to say, "I speak from experience, and this is not true."


So, maybe not call people ignorant unless yah got some solid proof thar. Otherwise you are no better.
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as I said it can be genetic. It doesnt matter how many people you are seeing my friend is seeing six people and that isnt helping not everything can be solved by a proffessional.
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Never mind u answered to something like that already.

IMO - suicide is kinda selfish. If I killed myself my loved ones would be sad and have to plan a funeral. Also the police and school would have to spend time into the matter.

Also where would you go? I believe in the afterlife and by killing yourself I feel wherever you go it would not be a good place

I for one would be too scared to kill myself anyway lol I would puss out at the last second
Can't determine if it's selfish or not without knowing who and why first.
Heck, they might believe they'll end up in paradise when it's over. If that was true, I might kill myself too
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:20 AM   #127
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Prince, I can honestly say, not everyone who commits/attempts suicide is doing it for a "selfish" reason. Some of them do it because they feel the world would do better without them. So they're trying to be selfless by "sacrificing" themselves. When you go your whole life thinking that you're the cause of all that's wrong in the world, suicide might seem like the only option.

@Sage some think they're going to hell whether they continue to live or die. Some think they deserve to be punished (mostly, for stuff that isn't even their faults)
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i agree with WishfulFairie.
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Old 11-22-2012, 10:34 AM   #129
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the subject is very serious
it is difficult to understand why a person commit suicide, every one has his low moment i totally agree. but life is not what you know about it, just think you may be wrong in the idea you made about life
life has many beautiful aspect, and the most amazing these aspect are simple and free, the smile of a friend, the lough of a child, the smell of a flower and he most amazing and free the sky it is amazing how just looking to the sky can make you think differently
every thing in the universe have been created for a purpose, just think what you can do to be a part of the universe, what i am saying is not ideal it is just to simplify things
peoples do things cause they have their motives, what they say or thing about you is not what you are it is only their opinion
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I dont get why these suicidal people fail too see other superior options. No one not even yourself gains anything from killing yourself.

I mean you only have one life cherish it more. There are probably billions dying people who would (have) Like(d) to trade places with the suicidal guy/girl.
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^^^believe it or not BMC, knowing that people have worse lives then them, makes them guilty for being depressed and suicidal which makes them more depressed and suicidal and then more guilty and so on and so on..
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Cant follow that. Feeling guilty about being suicidal should be met with a resolve to live to get rid of said guilt. Not an increasing about what you feel guilty about ending in a downward spiral. Atleast thats how it works in my head :S
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Depression is psychological and mental problem that comes in a variety of forms... It's not that easy...
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Imo, anyone who hasn't gone through depression shouldn't really be saying stuff like what PoP said. It kinda annoys me *Shrugs*
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-I understand how you feel because my friend also took his own life this week. I tottally agree there is no magical cure or miricale worker that will fix everything in a day. But Rome was not built in a day. Nothing gets better or easy in just one day. There needs to be many sessions and talks and meds if needed. .... ignoring other comment

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Prince, I'm not saying that they actually are the source of the world's problems. But with a lot of self loathing a person will always find a way to blame things in themselves. I'm not saying they don't try to help but in the back of their minds committing suicide would be a solution. One less person to worry about. Whatever could have been theirs is now someone else's.
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This is a dumb topic

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If someone wants to do it thats their business but no one has the right to say it's okay.
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Old 11-28-2012, 06:48 PM   #138
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I have never had a friend take their life. I talked them both out of it. One of them did the same for me. I am strongly anti-suicide, but I don't believe in forcibly preventing or ridiculing it either, because my strongest idealistic beliefs are freedom and open-mindedness.

I do, however, believe that absolutely any alternative that can be taken (within the boundries of morality), should be.
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Old 11-28-2012, 06:50 PM   #139
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I have never had a friend take their life. I talked them both out of it. One of them did the same for me. I am strongly anti-suicide, but I don't believe in forcibly preventing or ridiculing it either, because my strongest idealistic beliefs are freedom and open-mindedness.

I do, however, believe that absolutely any alternative that can be taken (within the boundries of morality), should be.
I completely agree, greay way to put it.
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Old 11-28-2012, 08:32 PM   #140
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I hate that there's people that are so depressed that they think suicide is the only way to get rid of it. I'm not saying I hate the people, just the situation they're in, don't want my wording to be misinterpreted. I wish I could help in a way so people won't have to resort to suicide.
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