The Escudo Arrancar!

[Devroux]

My opinion on why BFV lasted so long isn't that people were interested in the series so much as they were interested in the idea of having various forms and structures to the FV experience. So while they could only have a set number of abilities, they had three different forms to use it in that fundamentally changed the way they went about doing things.

But while these forms were similar for every race, the terms for them were also easy to remember and simple. Base > Shikai/first release > bankai/second release. It was simple. It wasn't like SS1, then SS2 with more power and less stamina, then SS3 with so little stamina that the power increase didn't even matter. It was like you had to attach and detach from other robots to make yourself better, and etc. It was just a simple way of doing things that made it so easy to learn.

But that's just my thoughts. Having a character with only a single form gets boring, because you can't switch up your fighting style mid-fight and stuff. It makes it repetitve and old, which is my concern for doing any other kind of RP. While you can come up with different way to do things in your verse limits, changing up your actual fighting style is a bit tougher because your weapons and physical form will most often be stationary for the entire fight, and also limited to a somewhat human form.

My thoughts. That's why I'm wary of the WS and BOARS. Things get limited a bit too much and it gets boring. Sometimes, you just want to do things the way you want to do it. That's what FV was.

And I don't think that BFV is necessarily dead, but there are no reasons for the newbies to come into BFV if the oldies aren't around anymore. Instead of conforming to the same rules that have always been around even if they're just coming in, they have no one to fight with using those same rules. It's like most of the people that really ran everything are gone and a new species has move in in our place, so they're doing their own thing most of the time.

[Noctis Arashi]

The only reason people are restricted is because they restrict themselves. I don't care if people have transformations in URPU. That's up to them. If they don't want to, they don't have to.

It's meant for people to have fun, battle in, but for a purpose of some sorts, kinda like the prime of BFV, where people fought for glory and for their respective groups.

Gonna start with a simple idea, and expand based on feedback.

But it's still in development, so

[zetsu2141]

theres no point in arguing the fate of fv since it could go either way and we won't know anything til everythings finished.

[Devroux]

There's no chance to really evolve in the tourney because matches are so short.

[Noctis Arashi]

These matches are to the death, if you didn't notice. *nods* I was keeping the initial matches short to weed out the lame-o's.

[Devroux]

I'm pretty sure Maik's going to get bored and quit then.

[Noctis Arashi]

That's his problem. Keep him entertained. Stop being boring.

[shinmarubountyhunter]

i have a bunch of transformations with my character.

[zetsu2141]

noctis where is that picture in your sig with the words"memento mori" from? it keeps reminding me of persona 3(which it may be)

[Noctis Arashi]

Memento mori is something present in persona 3, yes. But it is a phrase outside of it. The picture is just something I found.

[zetsu2141]

alright then

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Originally Posted by Devroux

I still don't get how BOARS is going to be revolutionary. Combat RP is pretty simple. WS is completely different from FV, WS =\= BOARS, etc. I'd rather just keep an FV as an FV for the sake of a democracy.

And it's not like URPT is some crazy new idea. UV was the same idea, yet no one at that time was willing to do anything except BFV.

Says someone who didn't even bother to reread the folders. >.>

[Devroux]

Originally Posted by Vatanui AKA Pride

Says someone who didn't even bother to reread the folders. >.>

As far as I know, the folders didn't say anything other than what is to be included, as in mini-games and such. Boss HP bars and the like aren't revolutionary and it's not an FV with what has been planned thus far.

BOARS should try to take over BFV, because that's dumb. BFV is completely different both in mechanics and ideals, so it shouldn't be forced to be a part of BOARS. However, I don't see anything wrong with attempting to get it's own section.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

So what, you only read three lines of words out of a thousand? e.e

When did I ever say that I wanted BOARS to take over BFV? >.>
And I also fail to see how BFV is completely different in ideals.

[Devroux]

Originally Posted by Vatanui AKA Pride

So what, you only read three lines of words out of a thousand? e.e

When did I ever say that I wanted BOARS to take over BFV? >.>
And I also fail to see how BFV is completely different in ideals.

No. The entire lot of PMs pretty much reiterated what its predecessors would state, often repeating or further "clarifying" parts that were already said. The only things I seem to remember where that people get a character, people fight bosses with HP bars, and people play mini-games.

"BFV would be the starting point of BOARS." You were going to try and start BOARS in this section, and have, in order to get it running. Though at this point, you'd probably have just as much luck in the regular RP section. I see a lot of piggybacking off of current RPs.

Because BFV is an FV because it has no story element other than the ones users felt like creating. There was nothing more than simple combat and it kept the place alive for a long time. There are no boss fights, no mini-games, none of that. Players were capable of letting their imaginations run, which is why it lasted for as long as it did.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

What are you talking about, with predecessors and all? o.o

Then what you remember is inaccurate and limited. Go read the folders again.

Yes. And it already was. Back in 2010. o.o

Piggybacking? That's a strange way to put it.

So it lasted less than two years? This isn't exactly helping your claim, Devroux. e.e

[Devroux]

Originally Posted by Vatanui AKA Pride

What are you talking about, with predecessors and all? o.o

Then what you remember is inaccurate and limited. Go read the folders again.

Yes. And it already was. Back in 2010. o.o

Piggybacking? That's a strange way to put it.

So it lasted less than two years? This isn't exactly helping your claim, Devroux. e.e

Just the PMs that came before the next. That's really it.

After a few more Doctor Whos.

Piggybacking, sling shotting, however you want to put it. You're using the pull of another RP to jumpstart your own. As you put it, the mission way back when was the beginning of BOARS, or a prequel to, and was using the activity of BFV to get it going.

I don't know. I didn't mention actual times. I mostly remember just stating that BFV was active for awhile despite the limits of a combat RP because of the limitlessness of the players' imaginations.

[joon61]

I have a transfomation in the tourney.
I just did poorly on the creative part. >.>

[Bacon]

Bleach was sorta of a bad setting for roleplaying. How creative can you be when describing teleportation and nukes which are easily and liberally tossed around as openers.

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Originally Posted by joon61

I have a transfomation in the tourney.
I just did poorly on the creative part. >.>

Have Susan mentor you. He's plenty creative. >.>

Originally Posted by Devroux

Just the PMs that came before the next. That's really it.

After a few more Doctor Whos.

Piggybacking, sling shotting, however you want to put it. You're using the pull of another RP to jumpstart your own. As you put it, the mission way back when was the beginning of BOARS, or a prequel to, and was using the activity of BFV to get it going.

I don't know. I didn't mention actual times. I mostly remember just stating that BFV was active for awhile despite the limits of a combat RP because of the limitlessness of the players' imaginations.

Dammit! What's so special about Doctor Who!? e.e
*inb4heatedfanlecture

Well, it's a little too late now.

People were already getting tired by mid 2010. Every one of those little activity spurts that had happened on afterwards were through attempting something new, such as Bacon's dice rolling RP experiment.

The point is, change is inevitable. Without change, stability comes. And you would never want to have something like stability in a FV or RP.