Spoiler Nine tails and madara..

[Akatsuki Tsunade]

So far we know madara has used the nine tails at least once. Also that the nine tails remembers his chakra very well. Also.that obito really has not had the chance to control the nine tails based on the time line of the nine tails host. And with that said if you remember back when obito fought the 4th that the nine tails clearly knew the chakra of the masked man from before. Now as far as we know that chakra had to have been madras. But that's impossible you may be thinking bc he clearly had obito ms and his jutsu which is unique to his user obito Also like other people have pointed out his voice has a different tone than he does now and his body does not match obito age. So I'm thinking madara may have used some jutsu that allowed him to use obito body and his mkys but using his own chakra...

Also I find it very hard to belive that obito had the time and the skill to go against the 4th. Also his comment " do you have any idea how long I waited be for this would make way more sense coming from mardara.

Also he was so focused on destroying the leaf which was madaras goal if that was truly obito he would of left right away to seal the nine tails for his own goal the moon eye project..


Does any one have a comment or feed back on this theory or have there own theory regarding that night

Ps. b4 you comment let's just assume that kish has not lost all his cometn since of logic and that he is the same guy that got us hooked on naruto

[WishfulFairie]

I am not supporting not refuting ANY theories. My heart can only take so much
But your theory sounds logical

[Jutsu Junkie]

I think Tobi's cloak is a spacetime clown car. There's like what 3 ultimate villains stuffed in there at any given time?

[Maruko]

It was probably Tobi while Madara was still alive.

[mado134]

well .. how does Madara suppose to be alive ??
no clue !!!!!!!! unless their is 2 Madara their ( which is impossible )
and dont forget .. Madara's have the power of the 1st hokage too, which means he was dead and get revived by Kabuto, unless orochimaru tried tried to revive him b4 which makes no sense too about the power of the 1st hokage he have

[Maruko]

I think that Madara took Obito as his student, and then we he died, Obito carried his plan under the name of Uchiha Madara.

[Hiko Seijuro]

Originally Posted by Maruko

I think that Madara took Obito as his student, and then we he died, Obito carried his plan under the name of Uchiha Madara.

That sounds like Kishi.

[JazzJunkie4]

Some support for you're theory might be on page 501. Tobi says to kushina "do you know how long I've waited for this brief moment". If it were obito then..... 2 years maybe? Seems like a statement that would fit madara better.

[Topik]

so...we probably are missing third person. third Tobi. or someone with same powers as madara... izuna. i will repeat this name until the very end of manga.

[Akatsuki Tsunade]

Originally Posted by JazzJunkie4

Some support for you're theory might be on page 501. Tobi says to kushina "do you know how long I've waited for this brief moment". If it were obito then..... 2 years maybe? Seems like a statement that would fit madara better.

Yeah I fee l the same way but I can't figure out how

[Fuuin]

I'm just worried Madara will form a handseal and say: Summoning Jutsu: Nine-Tailed Demon Fox!

And bam, extract Kurama from Naruto right there on the spot.

Shouldn't be possible, right?

S'what most people said about Obito being Tobi, too.

Can't trust this author.

[Akatsuki Tsunade]

Originally Posted by Topik

so...we probably are missing third person. third Tobi. or someone with same powers as madara... izuna. i will repeat this name until the very end of manga.

wow your right the would make a lot of sense now I can start brain storming.who

[JazzJunkie4]

Originally Posted by Fuuin

I'm just worried Madara will form a handseal and say: Summoning Jutsu: Nine-Tailed Demon Fox!

And bam, extract Kurama from Naruto right there on the spot.

Shouldn't be possible, right?

S'what most people said about Obito being Tobi, too.

Can't trust this author.

He already tried that and it didn't work: Naruto 561 page 10

[Akatsuki Tsunade]

Originally Posted by Fuuin

I'm just worried Madara will form a handseal and say: Summoning Jutsu: Nine-Tailed Demon Fox!

And bam, extract Kurama from Naruto right there on the spot.

Shouldn't be possible, right?

S'what most people said about Obito being Tobi, too.

Can't trust this author.

Well if I read it correctly he has all ready tried but can not because he is seald in naruto . Its interesting you say that bc we learned that night obito had that contact too until the 4th took it away

[Fuuin]

Originally Posted by JazzJunkie4

He already tried that and it didn't work: Naruto 561 page 10

Yeah that's why I said it shouldn't be possible. Just some sarcasm. I guess, however, that the reason Madara failed was because of the seal. Naruto took the seal off, but I don't think it'd be possible with Naruto's willpower involved.

It was just a doomsday scenario on top of an already apocalyptic precipice.

[Akatsuki Tsunade]

Originally Posted by Fuuin

Yeah that's why I said it shouldn't be possible. Just some sarcasm. I guess, however, that the reason Madara failed was because of the seal. Naruto took the seal off, but I don't think it'd be possible with Naruto's willpower involved.

It was just a doomsday scenario on top of an already apocalyptic precipice.

Lol sorry that went right over our heads..lol

[acerbitas]

Will Madara be able to pull a Sasuke when he sort of quelled the Nine Tails who was talking to Naruto in their little inner monologue world. What happens to Naruto's power in that instance? I guess it really depends on what really happened in that scenario. Was it control over Naruto disrupting the talk/link or was it control over the Nine Tails? Now that they are friendly, will that somehow block that interference?

[Satsuki]

Originally Posted by Akatsuki Tsunade

Also I find it very hard to belive that obito had the time and the skill to go against the 4th. Also his comment " do you have any idea how long I waited be for this would make way more sense coming from mardara.

Just want to point out that from Naruto Chapter 1 it has been 4 years in total in the NarutoVerse, excluding the flashbacks.

Naruto has gone from someone who could barely make a NORMAL clone NOT a shadow clone to someone who could beat Kurama solo and avoid the Raikage at top speed.

Obito had 5 years. Now, that seems that since Obito was trained by Madara, and they both had the same Kekkai Genkai, they could easily train well enough together and I think it's safe to say that Obito is on Izuna's level of ability in his prime, right now.

Naruto had 4 years. Obito had 5 years.

Sure, sure, he had to recuperate from the damage from the rocks, but hey, Naruto only learned Oodama Rasengan, and the Rasengan, and multiple shadow clones over the course of 3 years. He then went on to Master his RasenShuriken, Sage Mode, and take on Kurama within his remaining timeframe to the present day.

So let's do the math, Naruto had 1 year to master Sage Mode, his RasenShuriken, and multiple variations of the Rasengan, along with the Bijuu Bomb and Bijuu Mode.

Obito had 5 years minus let's say 1 years of recuperation. So Obito had 4 years to master his own eye techniques, along with learn whatever Madara could throw at him with his Sharingan.

Obito vs Minato is very likely. Much more likely than MADARA LOSING TO THE FOURTH, without using the Susano'o.

Why didn't he use Susano'o? Why didn't he use clones? It doesn't make much sense that he ONLY used Obito's abilities. Minato didn't tell anyone about his abilities, EVER. Tobi/Obito was a complete mystery.