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Old 12-07-2011, 10:33 PM   #1
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Well Itachi can pretty much solo all of them actually. Summon full Susanoo form and use Sword of Totsuka to slice all of them and Yata Miror to defend if one manages to escape.
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Now that I've put a location... I think all the Hyuga have to do is to keep distance from Itachi until his chakra runs out (assuming he starts the battle with Susanoo).
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Well in that case, Itachi can just find them one by one and use Tsukiyomi or finger genjutsu them ????
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Distance won't help. Uchiha's are known for their projectile attacks, and the Hyugas have none except Air Palms. A couple concentrated fireballs might be a bit much to handle, as well as Shadow Shurikens and all sorts of nifty tricks.

Hyugas are just far inferior to Uchihas in almost every way, barring straight Taijutsu.
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But doesn't Byakugan allow them to see through the genjutsu they could just release the genjutsu from each other. (BTW I have set the starting distance 30 m apart).
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But doesn't Byakugan allow them to see through the genjutsu they could just release the genjutsu from each other. (BTW I have set the starting distance 30 m apart).
I dont think the Byakugan allows them to see through genjutsu. It only can see through objects and an opponents' chakra points.
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But doesn't Byakugan allow them to see through the genjutsu they could just release the genjutsu from each other. (BTW I have set the starting distance 30 m apart).
A skilled user with the byakugan will have a much easier time deciphering genjutsu especially visual ones than a non user.

But Itachi is well known for his genjutsu prowess and we lack any Hyuuga feats with genjutsu other than AO's detection of Shisui's genjutsu.
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A skilled user with the byakugan will have a much easier time deciphering genjutsu especially visual ones than a non user.

But Itachi is well known for his genjutsu prowess and we lack any Hyuuga feats with genjutsu other than AO's detection of Shisui's genjutsu.
Ao detecting Shisui's genjutsu was because Ao detected Shisui's chakra that was active when Danzo cast the genjutsu.
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Ao detecting Shisui's genjutsu was because Ao detected Shisui's chakra that was active when Danzo cast the genjutsu.
I am willing to argue Sasuke and Itachi soloes this by themselves partially because they have no restrictions on them.
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^Zigzag you double posted, be careful next time, k? :P

Hinata also notes that with her Byakugan she noticed that they weren't in a genjutsu. This was when she confronted Tobi along with the 8-man squad.

And fireballs can be avoided quite easily. Even PTS Naruto was able to dodge them.

Also, As we all know for Sharingan genjutsu to work you must have direct eye contact, and the Byakugan does not percieve the actual surface of the object it is looking at. Instead, it percieves the the inside of the object and analyzes it's chakra. Because of this, an activated Byakugan cannot stare directly into a Sharingan eye. As a result, an activated Byakugan cannot be inflicted with a Sharingan Genjutsu. Now, there's Itachi's finger jutsu but it has only shown to be able to put his opponents to sleep (like he almost did to Naruto) someone can lend them their chakra and break the target out.

Hiashi's giant Kaiten can probably block the Totsuka Sword, and due to it reflecting the chakra back at the target, It would probably cause Susanoo to seal itself.
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Susanoo and MS spells death for them.

Hiashi isn't just the only target there are others too.

Hyuuga are just too close ranged especially when Susanoo is around for their own good.

One of them may die from a Kage Bunshin Clone Explosion too.
Let alone the greater speed difference.

Totsuka sword is a spiritual item not necessarily just sole chakra. You can't seal SUsanoo in itself when Itachi can just resummon it.

Finger pointing is a genjutsu, not just sleep.
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Susanoo and MS spells death for them.

Hiashi isn't just the only target there are others too.

Hyuuga are just too close ranged especially when Susanoo is around for their own good.

One of them may die from a Kage Bunshin Clone Explosion too.
Let alone the greater speed difference.

Totsuka sword is a spiritual item not necessarily just sole chakra. You can't seal SUsanoo in itself when Itachi can just resummon it.

Finger pointing is a genjutsu, not just sleep.
Well they start at 30 meters apart so that shouldn't be much of a problem. Also, Susanoo requires time to both activate and develop into the forms needed for respective abilities, and in that time they should be able to close the distance.

The chakra signature may be different for explosion clones. The reason why Neji was fooled was because the chakra was spread evenly. Itachi, not having knowledge of the Hyuuga, might not know to do that.

Yeah but it would still be reflected back at Itachi. Think of it as a similar principle as Rasengan redirecting A's spear resulting in a suicide.

And the Byakugan can see through genjutsu, as proved earlier. Byakugan can scan not only the caster's chakra, but scan the entire area in a very large area and with great clarity. Because of the chakra abnormalities with Genjutsu, a Byakugan will instantly notice when a Genjutsu is activated. Also due to the Juken fighting style, a Hyuga has complete and total control over his/her chakra flow. Manipulating their own chakra flow to disrupt a genjutsu would generally be pretty easy for a skilled Hyuga.

Do you mind if we can change the topic over to Uchiha taijutsu vs Hyuga taijutsu?
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Sasuke solos or Itachi solos....easily(rape thread)
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Posts # 2, #4, and #10??? Itachi or Sasuke "easily" solos. Yes, this "is" is rape thread.
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