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Old 08-22-2012, 06:05 PM   #1
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There is NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING, connecting Obito to Tobi. When you do things like this, you HINT, and leave puzzle pieces a LONG the WAY. Not

LUL eye OH AND SOME RANDOM STUFF I PULLED OUT OF MY ASS RIGHT NOW.

I mean really :\

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Maybe he did leave the puzzle pieces, and you just don't realize it.
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I've been saying this for a while now. The idea that there's a direct correlation between the two is absurd considering the fact that there's never been any hint or relation to the two in the manga. :/
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:08 PM   #4
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This is just so lame. We have seen everything BUT his god damn mouth.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:09 PM   #5
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You have Tobi nudes?
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:13 PM   #6
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Yea bby

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oh and the fact that HALF OF OBITO"S BODY WAS CRUSHED, means nothing now :\

SOMEONE had to get the body, bring him back to normal people body, fix him up and be like "RULE THE WORLD MY BOY"
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^^^ oh very nice description Zero! ...
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I've been saying this for a while now. The idea that there's a direct correlation between the two is absurd considering the fact that there's never been any hint or relation to the two in the manga. :/
You must mean any two, not specifically Tobi and Obito right? It sounds like you're saying the link to Obito is absurd with no clues. But Tobi is someone and there were not clues to anyone.

Other than The swirl of Tobi and kakashi's jutsu and that Kakashi got the eye from obito. That's why there is an Obito theory. That is the hint. And that's more than what we got for anyone else.
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Zero is going to be kicking and screaming his way through Chapters 599 and 600
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You must mean any two, not specifically Tobi and Obito right? It sounds like you're saying the link to Obito is absurd with no clues. But Tobi is someone and there were not clues to anyone.

Other than The swirl of Tobi and kakashi's jutsu and that Kakashi got the eye from obito. That's why there is an Obito theory. That is the hint. And that's more than what we got for anyone else.
Thats like saying Kiba is naruto because the hair is the same.
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Yea bby

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oh and the fact that HALF OF OBITO"S BODY WAS CRUSHED, means nothing now :\

SOMEONE had to get the body, bring him back to normal people body, fix him up and be like "RULE THE WORLD MY BOY"
Actually Obito's ENTIRE body was crushed.

Why is everyone forgetting that after the one boulder the size of a TANK
fell on Obito that the mountain bandits (whatever I'll call them what I want) used some earthquake smash to bring down practically a MOUNTAIN
down upon poor little Obito. Forget half a body I'd be surprised if anything remotely recognizable of a person could be found in that mess.

But Kishi is sure to b.s this somehow
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That being said nothing in Naruto can repair a body in that shape. Someone would have to take an instreast in the body and know ET. Only 3-4 know it, that being said. in that time, no one would even care about his body.
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Other than The swirl of Tobi and kakashi's jutsu and that Kakashi got the eye from obito. That's why there is an Obito theory. That is the hint. And that's more than what we got for anyone else.
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Thats like saying Kiba is naruto because the hair is the same.
You're not really comparing hair styles to the the working of jutsu right? But you are.
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If it's Obito, the only explanation is Kishi squeezing out a new ultra-heal jutsu.
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If Kishi makes Tobi Obito then he'll lose a chunk of his fanbase IMO. In other news, I think he's just giving false hope to these Tobi is Obito believers.
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You're not really comparing hair styles to the the working of jutsu right? But you are.
I was making a point about what you said in bold was stupid.
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You are saying Tobi's swirl and kakashi's Kamui are the reason why there are Obito theories, :\
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That being said nothing in Naruto can repair a body in that shape. Someone would have to take an instreast in the body and know ET. Only 3-4 know it, that being said. in that time, no one would even care about his body.
Well Madara is the most likely culprit.

The question is WHY would Madara resurrect Obito?

Of course it would some "hidden potential" b.s.
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He was the strongest of his time, he has no need for a weak bod when he could of had so easily killed Itachi and took his.
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I THOUGHT this thread said had donuts.

But i disagree.
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The fact that it would be retarded is exactly why Tobi is Obito.
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