Sakura VS Ino

[megabbaut]

What are Sakura's speed feats? I'm actually convinced that Ino could speedblitz her.

[PrinceofPeace]

WHAT !!!!

Ino and Sakura have just about the same speed. Even IF Ino was faster she can not blitz

Even IF she was fast her mind transfer still is not.

If you count Narutopedia Sakura is faster

When has Sakura or Ino ever blitz someone?

Ino is not winning this IF so how does she so I can at LEAST TRY to prove you wrong

Just look at them POLLS Sakura-9 Ino-2

Sakura wins

[megabbaut]

They are not the same speed unless you can provide some of Sakura's speed feats. I've already posted Ino's.

[Narutorious]

Ino had no speed feats ever, what is everyone refering to? Ino had always did teamwork, it's easy to take over someone's mind without them knowing, but it's different in a 1-on-1 battle, it was even said in the manga that Ino isn't the battle type, Ino shines best when it's teamwork or spying, especially working with Shikamaru. Ino can't win, it's impossible 1-on-1 unless Sakura underestimates her or holds back, Ino isn't Sakura, she wasn't trained by Tsunade, she knows medical jutsu, but Sakura is Tsunade's apprentice only, so Sakura has the same fighting style, unlike Ino or Shizune.

Originally Posted by megabbaut

They are not the same speed unless you can provide some of Sakura's speed feats. I've already posted Ino's.

You're right they aren't, Sakura would be faster, Sakura vs Sasori alone is far more impressive than what Ino had ever did.

[PrinceofPeace]

Originally Posted by megabbaut

They are not the same speed unless you can provide some of Sakura's speed feats. I've already posted Ino's.

Well Ino defiently can not blitz her. Who has she ever blitz??

I did give Sakura speed feats and When Sakura fought Sasori that evasion and dodging speed is better than what Ino ever did

Where is you Ino speed feats again?? I can not see them

WHEN HAS INO EVER SWITCHED PLACES WITH SOMEONE BY HERSELF
WHEN HAS INO EVER BEAT ANYONE 1v1

[Narutorious]

^That's what I'm trying to figure out, Ino never did anything speed wise, in the manga at least.

[PrinceofPeace]

@megabutt what Ino feats does Ino have


Sakura wins

[megabbaut]

Originally Posted by Narutorious

Ino had no speed feats ever, what is everyone refering to? Ino had always did teamwork, it's easy to take over someone's mind without them knowing, but it's different in a 1-on-1 battle, it was even said in the manga that Ino isn't the battle type, Ino shines best when it's teamwork or spying, especially working with Shikamaru. Ino can't win, it's impossible 1-on-1 unless Sakura underestimates her or holds back, Ino isn't Sakura, she wasn't trained by Tsunade, she knows medical jutsu, but Sakura is Tsunade's apprentice only, so Sakura has the same fighting style, unlike Ino or Shizune.


You're right they aren't, Sakura would be faster, Sakura vs Sasori alone is far more impressive than what Ino had ever did.

Sakura is not faster, against Sasori she had to rely on Chiyo's puppet threads to dodge Sasori's attacks. Without Chiyo's help she wouldn't have been able to evade anything. Ino on the other hand rescued Choji before anyone else when Edo Asuma launched his attack on them, and she also rescued him from an high speed wind technique (just look at the attack its a bunch of high speed wind blades in a column of dust, not even the Lightning Mask could dodge). To get from there to Choji who was literally in front of Asuma and even dodged it perfectly.

She was able to possess Kinkaku very quickly(although Shikamaru held him down for a second) Ino got there in time.

She fought Asuma in Choji's heavy body and with 2 Zetsu bodies.

She dodge one of Asuma attacks perfectly.

Inoichi said her speed with Mind Body Switch has improved greatly before her speed with that technqiue was like "Faster Than the Eye can See."(she possessed a wild bird)

These are far better speed feats than Sakura has ever shown, and Sakura won't be able to hit Ino since she's faster.

[PrinceofPeace]

That is NOT a great speed feat for Ino
Asuma warned them that he was going to attack and Ino was right there to save him. She was close to him anyway.

Yeah Ino got to Kinkaku THANKS TO HER TEAMMATES. She has never been able to do it alone without immoblizing the foe!

SOOOOOO !!!! There is no other bodies Ino can use so whats your point. You are just brining up irrelevant feats

Sakura dodged Sasori's attacks with and without Chiyo's help. Sasori's attacks have better aim and danger and are faster

Sakura would alwasy be on the move. Ino still has to aim it. If Ino could use her attack quickly she would fight 1v1 and provided more help in the fight with Kakazu. Sakura did more than Ino did in the fight with kakazu

You have not conviced ANYONE that Ino is faster she is NOT
Sakura is faster even Narutopedia says so. (Yes it is not always valid but it is true for the most part. )

Sakura and Ino have EQUAL speed at best/least

[Narutorious]

Sakura is not faster, against Sasori she had to rely on Chiyo's puppet threads to dodge Sasori's attacks. Without Chiyo's help she wouldn't have been able to evade anything.

At first Chiyo was helping Sakura, eventually Sakura was dodging on her own.

Ino on the other hand rescued Choji before anyone else when Edo Asuma launched his attack on them and she also rescued him from an high speed wind technique (just look at the attack its a bunch of high speed wind blades in a column of dust, not even the Lightning Mask could dodge).

To get from there to Choji who was literally in front of Asuma and even dodged it perfectly.

Against a concious Asuma who warned them, and it's not as if she skillfully dodged it.

She was able to possess Kinkaku very quickly(although Shikamaru held him down for a second) Ino got there in time.

Exactly.

She fought Asuma in Choji's heavy body and with 2 Zetsu bodies.

It was never said that her clan had a limit on how heavy they can lift, as long as you possess the mind, and she was never fighting 2 Zetsus & Asuma at the same time.

She dodge one of Asuma attacks perfectly.

Asuma was warning them throughout the battle.

Inoichi said her speed with Mind Body Switch has improved greatly before her speed with that technqiue was like "Faster Than the Eye can See."(she possessed a wild bird)

What chapter was that said? Regardless it's still useless against a moving opponent, possessing a bird isn't the same, Ino said herself she's not a straight forward fighter, & Shikamaru told her that her technique isn't usable without him.

[megabbaut]

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

That is NOT a great speed feat for Ino
Asuma warned them that he was going to attack and Ino was right there to save him. She was close to him anyway.

Yeah Ino got to Kinkaku THANKS TO HER TEAMMATES. She has never been able to do it alone without immoblizing the foe!

SOOOOOO !!!! There is no other bodies Ino can use so whats your point. You are just brining up irrelevant feats

Sakura dodged Sasori's attacks with and without Chiyo's help. Sasori's attacks have better aim and danger and are faster

Sakura would alwasy be on the move. Ino still has to aim it. If Ino could use her attack quickly she would fight 1v1 and provided more help in the fight with Kakazu. Sakura did more than Ino did in the fight with kakazu

You have not conviced ANYONE that Ino is faster she is NOT
Sakura is faster even Narutopedia says so. (Yes it is not always valid but it is true for the most part. )

Sakura and Ino have EQUAL speed at best/least

No man he didn't warn them, in Chapter 533 page 1 she was the first one to react to Asuma's attack as seen when we saw her foot starting to run. And in the first panel she's nowhere close to him.

The point is that the Mind Transfer technique in the war was proven to be quite fast.

He was able to keep up with Asuma in taijutsu even inside other people's bodes. And Asuma is pretty fast, too. This taijutsu feat proves she could keep up with Sakura in a taijutsu fight and since she's faster than her, Sakura won't be able to hit her.

Prove Sakura dodged Sasori's attacks without Chiyo controlling her body.

Sakura being on the move is irrelevant being that Ino could bring the fight up close and use Mind Transfer after dodging one of Sakura's attacks.

You haven't provided ONE speed feat for Sakura. Until you do, the fact remains that Ino is faster than Sakura.

[Narutorious]

No man he didn't warn them, in Chapter 533 page 1 she was the first one to react to Asuma's attack as seen when we saw her foot starting to run. And in the first panel she's nowhere close to him.

Ch. 532 pg 18 is when he warned them, just a page before.

The point is that the Mind Transfer technique in the war was proven to be quite fast.

Because the person she possessed was unawared & was standing still.

He was able to keep up with Asuma in taijutsu even inside other people's bodes. And Asuma is pretty fast, too. This taijutsu feat proves she could keep up with Sakura in a taijutsu fight and since she's faster than her, Sakura won't be able to hit her.

There wasn't even really fighting as Ino was just holding Asuma & fight with kunais more than anything, basic ninja fighting, not to mention Asuma was concious, and that doesn't prove she's faster than Sakura, doesn't even prove she's at Sakura's level.

Prove Sakura dodged Sasori's attacks without Chiyo controlling her body.

Ch. 270 pg 8

Sakura being on the move is irrelevant being that Ino could bring the fight up close and use Mind Transfer after dodging one of Sakura's attacks.

That can never happen, Sakura will knock Ino out before Ino gets a chance because quote from Ino Ch. 335 pg 13, "I'm not as skilled as a straight foward fighter", it can only happen if Sakura stands still & say "Ino, take my body".

[darkdemonofthemist]

Let's refer to the databooks at this time.

The third databook goes along with chapters 245 to 402. You can't really use these as a definite way of measuring their odds due to the fact that we are so far ahead of the last chapter. It is obvious that since that was published, Ino has improved her jutsu and skills, while we haven't seen much of a change in Sakura, except perhaps better medical ninjutsu.

But let's look at the stats anyway.

In the first databook (chapters 1-117), Ino triumphed over Sakura in terms of ninjutsu, taijutsu, speed, and stamina, but was weaker than Sakura in intelligence, genjutsu and hand seals. Sakura at this point doesn't have any jutsu, so no need for hand seals, and she doesn't have any genjutsu to use, so that doesn't really count either. Which probably means that Ino should've had higher stats but whatever.

In the second databook (chapters 118-238, Kakashi Gaiden not included, of course), Ino still wins out in ninjutsu, taijutsu, strength, speed, and stamina, Sakura having the upper edge in genjutsu, intelligence, and hand seals. Same logic applies to ninjutsu and genjutsu, but in my opinion Sakura is more book smart, and it seems as though her intelligence doesn't always help her in battle. It's almost like she has performance anxiety.

In the third databook (chapters 245-402), we are just now getting into Part II. Sakura has completed her training with Tsunade, and all of her stats have improved, the main ones being her taijutsu (1 to a 3), strength (1 to a 3), and speed (1 to a 3), while staying the same in genjutsu and handseals, and only going up by 1 in ninjutsu and stamina. She is evenly matched with Ino's stamina. Once again, the description for genjutsu, ninjutsu, and hand seals are knowledge AND skill. What gives Sakura the edge is her intelligence. Because her intelligence is so high, other stats are higher. Ino would definitely win out in terms of actual skill in these things, but she doesn't have the extensive knowledge like Sakura, who simply knows more about the mechanics and the various types, etc. That doesn't mean that Ino hasn't mastered her own techniques. Yes, during the Time Skip Sakura trained hard and improved greatly, but since then, what else has she actually improved on? Not much, while Ino continued onto to develop more skills and better herself as a ninja overall. If there were to be a fouth databook, I'm positive that Ino's stats would be higher, while Sakura's would probably stay the same, thus closing the 5 point gap in their totals. Due to the fact that the stats only go by .5, you could say that either of them could be at the very top of their range (3.8 or something) or the very low (4.0)

We already have noticed Ino's improvements in the war. We see she is better than when she and her team were fighting Hidan. We know that Asuma had told her not to lose to Sakura (highly annoying because I repeat, I hate Ino), and so that gave Ino even more motivation, inspiring her and jump-starting her training success. Seeing as she was able to keep a level head when fighting Asuma unlike Choji, we know that Ino will not be overcome by her emotions if fighting Sakura, like she did during the chunin exams.

I feel that by the third databook they are both well rounded ninjas, with each of their stats being around the same range, but Sakura has higher totals overall. However, there are more factors that play into a battle than just the characters abilities. We still have to consider Intel (prior knowledge of the enemy), Match-ups (individual skills and how they work against each other plus strengths and weaknesses), power-ups (bloodline limits, any other special powers), and scenario (environment and preparation for battle).

Intel- Ino has seen all of Sakura's tricks, while Sakura does not know of all of Ino's improvements. Ino is an expert of intel gathering. She could be just as perceptive as Sakura has been. According to the third data book, her intelligence is off by 1, but that's only because Sakura is so book smart.
Match-ups- This is a difficult one because they are pretty much opposites. Sakura is a taijutsu user, Ino ninjutsu. Sakura though, is a short range fighter while Ino can be short to mid-range. Ino's weaknesses are the uncertainty that her jutsus will hit and her less developed taijutsu. Her strengths on the other hand, are her new ninjutsu abilities, her knowledge, and ability to gain knowledge of Sakura's fighting style. Sakura's weaknesses are her non-existent jutsu and not knowing all of Ino's tricks, having not been around to witness them. Sakura's strengths are of course her taijutsu and medical ninjutsu. It could go either way with these factors.
Power-ups- Sakura has improved on almost all stats, but has no jutsu to use. Ino has furthered her jutsu abilities. She has learned to use her clan's jutsus that were originally created solely for intel gathering into a means of attack. In the anime, Ino couldn't use Mind Transfer jutsu on Sora but now in the war she was able to use it on Kinkaku. She also is now able to use Mind Clone Switch (a jutsu she recently aquired) on mutiple opponents. She could call upon some wild animals to attack Sakura and buy some time. The Yamanaka clan has special jutsu, while Sakura has none at all. Any kind that may appear to be ninjutsu (chakra scalpel) is just a derivative of medical ninjutsu. With Tsunade as the Hokage and also having power over the medic team (and thus medical training), they would have to follow her rules. She says that medic nin have to be good at hand to hand combat in order to prevent injuries, so Ino would have to learn some of that too.
Scenario- Sakura would only do well in an enclosed space. Ino could use whatever life is present in the area to her advantage (such as the hawk to spy), she also has slight sensory abilities so she could use both of those things to locate Sakura if she tried to hide. Eventually though, they'd have to get close to each other for anything to happen. As far as preparation for battle goes, Ino would probably have some flowers on her, if not she could find some, which she would try to use to poison Sakura. While it of course wouldn't do much to her, she'd still be distracted, which could heighten Ino's chances of being able to use her jutsu. Sakura doesn't have any means of distracting.

btw this took me forever to write. And PrinceofPeace, would you please calm down? Really.

[Kuromaki]

^daamn gurl

Originally Posted by darkdemonofthemist

Just you wait, there MUST be reflection, what would Naruto be without it?

I wouldn't say Sakura stands there though. She knows all about Ino mind transfer.

[PrinceofPeace]

You know what this is the SECOND time you were wrong about Manga chaps.
Chat 532 pg. 16 Asuma warns them to get out of the way!!!!!!
Ino was last seen about 10ft away from Choji. Shikamaru could not save Choji cuz he was busy attackin Asuma.

Ino had enough time AND A WARNING to easily save Choji

PLEASE PUT IN THE SMALL TIME TO CHECK YOUR INFO OR IT IS POINTLESS AND NOT FUN TO DEBATE YOU.

Ino's mind transfer is not that fast. I ask again:
-HOW WILL INO GET SAKURA WITH MIND TRANSFERED
-WHEN HAS INO EVER USED MIND TRANSFER AND BEEN SUCCESSFUL BY HERSELF not including when she fought Sakura)

Taijutsu is TOOOO RISKY. All Sakura needs is just ONE HIT. Do you really underestimate Sakura so much that she will not even get one hit in?? (so far taijutsu is the ONLY thing Sakura has agianst Sakura and using that is too risky)

Sakura held her own when the 100 puppets wer activated
Sakura moved fast enough to grab Sasoir's thread and recall it smash Sasori
Sakura also has way more stamina and a better med-nin
Sakura is smarter and she is well aware of what Ino can do

Sakura is faster than Ino she does not need to get close Sakura can dodge her

Even IF Ino got her with mind transfer there is still a possiblity that Sakura could break out and Sakura could throw kunai at her body just as she switched bodies. This would damage Ino and Sakura would fight Ino on the mental plane

Sakura kept up with Chiyo's wires ( Sakura still needed to be fast its not like Chiyo could have done what she done with any ninja)
Sakura kept up with Sasori's 100 puppets
She was trained by Tsunade to be fast and dodge attacks
Sakura still has "Inner Sakura" to fight Mind Transfer
Sakura intercpted Garra finishing off Saskue
Sakura was able to use her speed to try and attack Saskue from behind
Sakura was fast enough to save citizens from Pain summonings
Sakkkura revelaed herself to Oro and Kabuto as fast as Naruto and Sai did

Ino can not beat Sakura with taijutsu alone and Mind Transfer is to risky. She would not use it unless she could immobliize Sakura. It would be Out of Character if Ino used it while Sakura could move

For ^ Those reasons Sakura wins

[Narutorious]

Originally Posted by darkdemonofthemist

Let's refer to the databooks at this time.

The third databook goes along with chapters 245 to 402. You can't really use these as a definite way of measuring their odds due to the fact that we are so far ahead of the last chapter. It is obvious that since that was published, Ino has improved her jutsu and skills, while we haven't seen much of a change in Sakura, except perhaps better medical ninjutsu.

But let's look at the stats anyway.

In the first databook (chapters 1-117), Ino triumphed over Sakura in terms of ninjutsu, taijutsu, speed, and stamina, but was weaker than Sakura in intelligence, genjutsu and hand seals. Sakura at this point doesn't have any jutsu, so no need for hand seals, and she doesn't have any genjutsu to use, so that doesn't really count either. Which probably means that Ino should've had higher stats but whatever.

In the second databook (chapters 118-238, Kakashi Gaiden not included, of course), Ino still wins out in ninjutsu, taijutsu, strength, speed, and stamina, Sakura having the upper edge in genjutsu, intelligence, and hand seals. Same logic applies to ninjutsu and genjutsu, but in my opinion Sakura is more book smart, and it seems as though her intelligence doesn't always help her in battle. It's almost like she has performance anxiety.

In the third databook (chapters 245-402), we are just now getting into Part II. Sakura has completed her training with Tsunade, and all of her stats have improved, the main ones being her taijutsu (1 to a 3), strength (1 to a 3), and speed (1 to a 3), while staying the same in genjutsu and handseals, and only going up by 1 in ninjutsu and stamina. She is evenly matched with Ino's stamina. Once again, the description for genjutsu, ninjutsu, and hand seals are knowledge AND skill. What gives Sakura the edge is her intelligence. Because her intelligence is so high, other stats are higher. Ino would definitely win out in terms of actual skill in these things, but she doesn't have the extensive knowledge like Sakura, who simply knows more about the mechanics and the various types, etc. That doesn't mean that Ino hasn't mastered her own techniques. Yes, during the Time Skip Sakura trained hard and improved greatly, but since then, what else has she actually improved on? Not much, while Ino continued onto to develop more skills and better herself as a ninja overall. If there were to be a fouth databook, I'm positive that Ino's stats would be higher, while Sakura's would probably stay the same, thus closing the 5 point gap in their totals. Due to the fact that the stats only go by .5, you could say that either of them could be at the very top of their range (3.8 or something) or the very low (4.0)

We already have noticed Ino's improvements in the war. We see she is better than when she and her team were fighting Hidan. We know that Asuma had told her not to lose to Sakura (highly annoying because I repeat, I hate Ino), and so that gave Ino even more motivation, inspiring her and jump-starting her training success. Seeing as she was able to keep a level head when fighting Asuma unlike Choji, we know that Ino will not be overcome by her emotions if fighting Sakura, like she did during the chunin exams.

I feel that by the third databook they are both well rounded ninjas, with each of their stats being around the same range, but Sakura has higher totals overall. However, there are more factors that play into a battle than just the characters abilities. We still have to consider Intel (prior knowledge of the enemy), Match-ups (individual skills and how they work against each other plus strengths and weaknesses), power-ups (bloodline limits, any other special powers), and scenario (environment and preparation for battle).

Intel- Ino has seen all of Sakura's tricks, while Sakura does not know of all of Ino's improvements. Ino is an expert of intel gathering. She could be just as perceptive as Sakura has been. According to the third data book, her intelligence is off by 1, but that's only because Sakura is so book smart.
Match-ups- This is a difficult one because they are pretty much opposites. Sakura is a taijutsu user, Ino ninjutsu. Sakura though, is a short range fighter while Ino can be short to mid-range. Ino's weaknesses are the uncertainty that her jutsus will hit and her less developed taijutsu. Her strengths on the other hand, are her new ninjutsu abilities, her knowledge, and ability to gain knowledge of Sakura's fighting style. Sakura's weaknesses are her non-existent jutsu and not knowing all of Ino's tricks, having not been around to witness them. Sakura's strengths are of course her taijutsu and medical ninjutsu. It could go either way with these factors.
Power-ups- Sakura has improved on almost all stats, but has no jutsu to use. Ino has furthered her jutsu abilities. She has learned to use her clan's jutsus that were originally created solely for intel gathering into a means of attack. In the anime, Ino couldn't use Mind Transfer jutsu on Sora but now in the war she was able to use it on Kinkaku. She also is now able to use Mind Clone Switch (a jutsu she recently aquired) on mutiple opponents. She could call upon some wild animals to attack Sakura and buy some time. The Yamanaka clan has special jutsu, while Sakura has none at all. Any kind that may appear to be ninjutsu (chakra scalpel) is just a derivative of medical ninjutsu. With Tsunade as the Hokage and also having power over the medic team (and thus medical training), they would have to follow her rules. She says that medic nin have to be good at hand to hand combat in order to prevent injuries, so Ino would have to learn some of that too.
Scenario- Sakura would only do well in an enclosed space. Ino could use whatever life is present in the area to her advantage (such as the hawk to spy), she also has slight sensory abilities so she could use both of those things to locate Sakura if she tried to hide. Eventually though, they'd have to get close to each other for anything to happen. As far as preparation for battle goes, Ino would probably have some flowers on her, if not she could find some, which she would try to use to poison Sakura. While it of course wouldn't do much to her, she'd still be distracted, which could heighten Ino's chances of being able to use her jutsu. Sakura doesn't have any means of distracting.

btw this took me forever to write. And PrinceofPeace, would you please calm down? Really.

None of that matters because we still haven't seen Ino in a 1-on-1 battle since Sakura in part 1, it's safe to say everyone has improve for this war, not just Ino, I agree that Ino is better now compare to what she was in the Kakuzu & Hidan arc, but as we seen before & now, she isn't the 1-on-1 type, even using the databooks, the only thing Ino beats Sakura in is Ninjutsu. Everything else you said is either assumption, such as Ino being able to poison Sakura, or just in the anime or videos games, which we don't used. What medical ninja had to do is avoided injury or worse, but like I said, Sakura is on a higher level than that because she is Tsunade apprentice, unlike the other medical ninjas.

[megabbaut]

Ch. 532 pg 18 is when he warned them, just a page before.

Oh, I didn't see that. Well even when they were warned Choji was still unable to move , also like I said before she was the first one to react as seen when she moved her foot before anyone else did anything

Because the person she possessed was unawared & was standing still.

The point is that she got him before Shikamaru was struck by his own shadow, he even said "Nice Timing"

There wasn't even really fighting as Ino was just holding Asuma more than anything, not to mention Asuma was concious, and that doesn't prove she's faster than Sakura, doesn't even prove she's at Sakura's level.

Chapter 553 page 7 she exchanges blows with Asuma in Choji's body, and Sakura doesn't have very good taijutsu feats. She couldn't even react to Omoi's kick and you still have yet to provide any speed feats for Sakura.

Ch. 270 pg 8

Seeing through attack patterns =/= dodging.

That can never happen, Sakura will knock Ino out before Ino gets a chance because quote from Ino Ch. 335 pg 13, "I'm not as skilled as a straight foward fighter".

Although Sakura may have more physical strength, she still has to be able to hurt Ino, which she can't because Ino is faster.

And Ch.335 pg 13 is Hidan dodging Shikamaru's shadow. Fix your post.

[Narutorious]

Oh, I didn't see that. Well even when they were warned Choji was still unable to move , also like I said before she was the first one to react as seen when she moved her foot before anyone else did anything

Chouji wasn't able dodged for mental reasons more than anything.

The point is that she got him before Shikamaru was struck by his own shadow, he even said "Nice Timing"

I don't even know what you refering to, I know Shikamaru had used his jutsu to hold Asuma, then Asuma was able to break out, then Ino saved Chouji, but regardless, they knew it was coming.

Chapter 553 page 7 she exchanges blows with Asuma in Choji's body, and Sakura doesn't have very good taijutsu feats. She couldn't even react to Omoi's kick and you still have yet to provide any speed feats for Sakura.

Basic kunai fighting isn't a real feat, basic fighting really, in fact Ino had to be saved, and Asuma isn't exactly known for his speed. Omoi kicking Sakura wasn't even a real fight, no one was going all out.

Seeing through attack patterns =/= dodging.

Really because Sasuke was able to see everything Lee was doing, & he still got beaten down, you need the speed regardless.

Although Sakura may have more physical strength, she still has to be able to hurt Ino, which she can't because Ino is faster.

And Sakura can cuz she's faster, all you doing is giving what Ino did against a person who was warning them, and ultimately almost got killed if it wasn't for Chouza, I don't remember Sasori warning Chiyo & Sakura, for Ino to be able to fight Sakura, she has to sneak up on her, which wouldn't be a 1-on-1 battle.

And Ch.335 pg 13 is Hidan dodging Shikamaru's shadow. Fix your post.

But you read the chapter then, pg 9.

[darkdemonofthemist]

Don't want to take up the whole page. Just reiterating the fact that I hate Ino...

Spoiler:

Originally Posted by PrinceofPeace

You know what this is the SECOND time you were wrong about Manga chaps.

Please quote someone. It's hard to tell who you're raging at.

Chat 532 pg. 16 Asuma warns them to get out of the way!!!!!!
Ino was last seen about 10ft away from Choji. Shikamaru could not save Choji cuz he was busy attackin Asuma.

He was warning Choji, who was freaking out and standing there, directly in the line of fire. Ino was calm and already got out of the way. Really she didn't need to, as the Edo Tensei was directing Asuma towards Choji, not Ino and Shikamaru.

Ino had enough time AND A WARNING to easily save Choji

What would Shikamaru do? Of course Ino saved him, she was perfect for that.

PLEASE PUT IN THE SMALL TIME TO CHECK YOUR INFO OR IT IS POINTLESS AND NOT FUN TO DEBATE YOU.

You don't have to be mean to those with opposing views. We've all read or watched, otherwise we wouldn't be talking.

Ino's mind transfer is not that fast. I ask again:
-HOW WILL INO GET SAKURA WITH MIND TRANSFERED

Some means of distraction, or when Sakura is recoiling from a huge punch. Sakura can't be running/dodging/jumping/whatever 24/7. She eventually has to stop too.

-WHEN HAS INO EVER USED MIND TRANSFER AND BEEN SUCCESSFUL BY HERSELF not including when she fought Sakura)

She hasn't had enough screen time nor opportunity. It wasn't practical to designate time for her to have her own battle, as she is not a main character and Ino-Shika-Cho is much more interesting and popular.

Taijutsu is TOOOO RISKY. All Sakura needs is just ONE HIT. Do you really underestimate Sakura so much that she will not even get one hit in?? (so far taijutsu is the ONLY thing Sakura has agianst Sakura and using that is too risky)

Ninjas take risks all the time. They always resort to things that aren't their first choice. Sakura may not need one hit, when you think about it, she wouldn't be out to kill Ino. She would show some restraint because of the emotional tie.

Sakura held her own when the 100 puppets wer activated
Sakura moved fast enough to grab Sasoir's thread and recall it smash Sasori

With help from Chiyo. Remember, she ended up needing Chiyo to control her.

Sakura also has way more stamina and a better med-nin

According to the data books, she has the same amount of stamina. Yes she is a better medic nin, but it takes time to heal any significant injuries, and if Ino can't deal fatal injuries out, Sakura probably wouldn't waste her time.

Sakura is smarter and she is well aware of what Ino can do

She's smarter, yes, but it's not like Ino's dumb. Sakura hasn't seen all of Ino's improvements. It may take a few minutes to figure out. She'll do it, though.

Sakura is faster than Ino she does not need to get close Sakura can dodge her

She's faster by .5, and since they don't get more specific, Ino could be only off by .2 or something. Now, it's really a measure of Ino's jutsu speed, which there isn't a number for so we really can't say.

Even IF Ino got her with mind transfer there is still a possiblity that Sakura could break out and Sakura could throw kunai at her body just as she switched bodies. This would damage Ino and Sakura would fight Ino on the mental plane

It's definitely a possibility. But if at first you don't succeed, try, try again.

Sakura kept up with Chiyo's wires ( Sakura still needed to be fast its not like Chiyo could have done what she done with any ninja)

Chiyo was an expert puppet user. She probably could do that with any ninja.
Sakura kept up with Sasori's 100 puppets with Chiyo's help

She was trained by Tsunade to be fast and dodge attacks

Tru dat.

Sakura still has "Inner Sakura" to fight Mind Transfer

Can't say that for sure, Inner Sakura hasn't made an appearance since the very beginning of Part II.

Sakura intercpted Garra finishing off Saskue

All she did was stand up with a kunai and then proceeded to be slammed against a tree.

Sakura was able to use her speed to try and attack Saskue from behind

His vision was blurred because of the Sharingan technique he used right before.

Sakura was fast enough to save citizens from Pain summonings

Because she is a ninja, and they are not.

Sakkkura revelaed herself to Oro and Kabuto as fast as Naruto and Sai did

That wasn't a test of speed, that was coming out of the bushes.

Ino can not beat Sakura with taijutsu alone and Mind Transfer is to risky. She would not use it unless she could immobliize Sakura. It would be Out of Character if Ino used it while Sakura could move

Right, so she'd have to combine. If she needed to resort, she would. Gotta do what you gotta do.

For ^ Those reasons Sakura wins

It would be a very long, drawn out fight.

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Chouji wasn't able dodged for mental reasons more than anything.

But I don't think Kishi would do that to Choji lol

I don't even know what you refering to, I know Shikamaru had used his jutsu to hold Asuma, then Asuma was able to break out, then Ino saved Chouji, but regardless, they knew it was coming.

I'm talking about Chapter 529 page 16, if Mind Transfer wasn't fast then it would've never made it at all

Basic kunai fighting isn't a real feat, basic fighting really, in fact Ino had to be saved, and Asuma isn't exactly known for his speed. Omoi kicking Sakura wasn't even a real fight, no one was going all out.

But Asuma wasn't using basic kunai, he was using his signature Chakra Blades for taijutsu (or kenjutsu) which he specializes in. Even if Sakura wasn't going out she shouldn't have gotten kicked

Really because Sasuke was able to see everything Lee was doing, & he still got beaten down, you need the speed regardless.

Sasuke couldn't keep up with Lee's attack patterns.

It's like Sasuke & Itachi vs Kabuto, where Kabuto like "I know he's going to use a Katon" but he fails to dodge it anyway. They're two completely different things.

And Sakura can cuz she's faster, all you doing is giving what Ino did against a person who was warning them, and ultimately almost got killed if it wasn't for Chouza, I don't remember Sasori warning Chiyo & Sakura, for Ino to be able to fight Sakura, she has to sneak up on her, which wouldn't be a 1-on-1 battle.

You keep saying Sakura is faster but you haven't been proven it. You've only referenced the Sasori fight which was all the work of Chiyo moving Sakura around, plus Sakura just saw through Sasori's attack patterns by studying the movements of his fingers.

Also I don't know why you keep talking about the 1-on-1 battle stuff when Sakura hasn't been in one either besides the one against Ino herself.

That can never happen, Sakura will knock Ino out before Ino gets a chance because quote from Ino Ch. 335 pg 13, "I'm not as skilled as a straight foward fighter".

But you read the chapter then, pg 9.

I found it. Well to contradict that she was keeping up pretty well against Sakura in the Chunin Exams, and also that was back in the Hidan/Kakuzu arc which was before she started showing speed feats so she probably improved over the last 200 chapters leading into the war.