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Old 08-07-2012, 09:35 AM   #41
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Now your putting words in my mouth I never Said Minato can make traps
He would go to his hideout to...
1-stock up on FTG kunai
2-summon Gama
(BOTH do not take long)

When Gama his being warped into another dimension/being attacked he will not stand still. He would at least use water bullet. Kakashi can not kaumi something that big at least that fast. And if he tires Minato kills him

Like I said before .... why would Minato summon Gama right in front of him. HE WOULD NOT. Minato would go to his hideout. SO Kakashi can not Kaumi Minato

NOW ANSWER MY QUESTION PLEASE AND STOP AVOIDING IT

IF kakashi tries to Kaumi GAMA how does he react to Minato using rasengan from behind??

Answer: Kakashi can not react to both!!!!

Perhaps you are avoiding the question because you have no answer to it??
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Old 08-07-2012, 09:41 AM   #42
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Now your putting words in my mouth I never Said Minato can make traps
He would go to his hideout to...
1-stock up on FTG kunai
2-summon Gama
(BOTH do not take long)

When Gama his being warped into another dimension/being attacked he will not stand still. He would at least use water bullet. Kakashi can not kaumi something that big at least that fast. And if he tires Minato kills him

Like I said before .... why would Minato summon Gama right in front of him. HE WOULD NOT. Minato would go to his hideout. SO Kakashi can not Kaumi Minato

NOW ANSWER MY QUESTION PLEASE AND STOP AVOIDING IT

IF kakashi tries to Kaumi GAMA how does he react to Minato using rasengan from behind??

Answer: Kakashi can not react to both!!!!

Perhaps you are avoiding the question because you have no answer to it??
pretty much my argument has failed as FAN OF MINATO has said that he can warp out of kamui which I failed to realize
I did answer youre question two times as I said that he could attack Minato during the summon
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Old 08-07-2012, 09:45 AM   #43
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Minato is far away at his hideout ... HOW CAN KAKASHI KAUMI HIM

Plus I already Said that Minto is faster and can beat Kaumi


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Minato is far away at his hideout ... HOW CAN KAKASHI KAUMI HIM

Plus I already Said that Minto is faster and can beat Kaumi


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He is not faster but is able to teleport out of it
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Minato can FTG before Kakashi uses Kaumi REGARDLESS......


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Kakashi can kamui the location Minato is going to be
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How does Kakshi know where he went????
How big do you think Kakashi can Kaumi????
How does Kakashi fight Gama and Minato?????

Minato can teleport through Kaumi
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Wherever he threw the FTG kunai to
As big as the explosion Deidara whipped up
He paralyzes Gama with Lighting Chain, catches Minato with Kamui, then Kamui Gama too

The latest chapter proved that up to this point in the manga he can spam Kamui. He was also about to kamui away five Bijuu Bombs, too.

Prove he can teleport through kamui
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Have you read the other posts???? Minato does not need to throw a kunai to his hideout because it already has one!!!!

The explosion was not as big as Gama if so PROVE IT
Gama is big and fast he can jump and use water/oil attacks to hit Kakshi

Kaumi can not trap Kakashi. Kakshi Kauming 5 TBB was most likely a BLUFF. He did not do it so we can not use it in argument

Minato teleported through Tobi's warping which is the same thing

IF kakashi tries to Kaumi GAMA how does he react to Minato using rasengan from behind??
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Wherever he threw the FTG kunai to
As big as the explosion Deidara whipped up
He paralyzes Gama with Lighting Chain, catches Minato with Kamui, then Kamui Gama too

The latest chapter proved that up to this point in the manga he can spam Kamui. He was also about to kamui away five Bijuu Bombs, too.

Prove he can teleport through kamui
Minato doesn't have to throw one kunai, he's capable of throwing more than one.
Kakashi can only do one thing at one instant, he can't do all three.
Kakashi can spam kamui on small things. The larger the object, the more chakra it takes.
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again I say because it is true


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Minato Stomps With FTG. Sharingan cant see through the time-space continuum. Frankly nothing kakahsi has will ever ever hit him. Even if minato lets him get his raikairi off he simply stomps him with the superior rasengan.

Kamui just like tobi slurp gobble jutsu will be useless against him and it will leave him open for attack by minato who again teleports in an instant.
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Have you read the other posts???? Minato does not need to throw a kunai to his hideout because it already has one!!!!

The explosion was not as big as Gama if so PROVE IT
Gama is big and fast he can jump and use water/oil attacks to hit Kakshi

Kaumi can not trap Kakashi. Kakshi Kauming 5 TBB was most likely a BLUFF. He did not do it so we can not use it in argument

Minato teleported through Tobi's warping which is the same thing

IF kakashi tries to Kaumi GAMA how does he react to Minato using rasengan from behind??
No he doesn't. He doesn't even have prep that lets him set his kunai.

Chapter 278 page 3, it was bigger than a forest and also the land in the background.

lol why would he be bluffing? He would've done it if Guy hadn't stopped him.

Prove it is the same thing.

How is he going to get behind Kakashi? If it's via FTG then Kakashi will notice the kunai he throws and warp it away.

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True, but Kakashi can kamui more than one thing at a time, as proven against those 5 Bijuu Bombs I've mentioned earlier, also they were pretty huge IIRC.
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We do not KNOW for sure he kaumi 5 bijuu bomb... it was most likely a bluff. If it was possible he would have told Naruto he got it

Minato does not NEED PREP he already has a kunai at his hideout to teleport their

Gama is also bigger than a forest ALSO it can move and jump higher

He would notice the FTG kunai BUT while he is fighing Gama Kakashi must choose
1- TRY to Kaumi Gama
2- TRY to Kaumi Minato who throw multiple FTG kunai

Either way Kakshi dies
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We do not KNOW for sure he kaumi 5 bijuu bomb... it was most likely a bluff. If it was possible he would have told Naruto he got it

Minato does not NEED PREP he already has a kunai at his hideout to teleport their

Gama is also bigger than a forest ALSO it can move and jump higher

He would notice the FTG kunai BUT while he is fighing Gama Kakashi must choose
1- TRY to Kaumi Gama
2- TRY to Kaumi Minato who throw multiple FTG kunai

Either way Kakshi dies
Kakashi really isn't the type to bluff. You'e just making stuff up now. And Might Guy stopped him because he didn't want him to use up to much energy, like when Kakashi stopped him from opening the 8th gate.

Prove he has a kunai prepared at his hideout.

I don't remember Gamabunta jumping in the manga, could you refresh my memory?

As I said before, he paralyzes Gama with Lightning Chain, warps Minato's FTG kunai (and Minato himself while he's teleporting) away, then proceeds to kamui Gama's head off.
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He did not do it so you really can not use it in argument. What Kakashi said was hype

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It's called circumstantiall evidence.

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No he doesn't. He doesn't even have prep that lets him set his kunai.

Chapter 278 page 3, it was bigger than a forest and also the land in the background.

lol why would he be bluffing? He would've done it if Guy hadn't stopped him.

Prove it is the same thing.

How is he going to get behind Kakashi? If it's via FTG then Kakashi will notice the kunai he throws and warp it away.


True, but Kakashi can kamui more than one thing at a time, as proven against those 5 Bijuu Bombs I've mentioned earlier, also they were pretty huge IIRC.
Unfortunately, Kakashi had to have done it to use it as a feat. I can see where you are coming from, but Gamabunta is a large toad and Minato can warp out of Kamui (as shown in his fight against Tobi [whose teleportation jutsu is a lot like kamui, and doesn't even need prep]). For one thing, Kakashi can't kamui Minato and Gama at the same time. Kakashi actually needs to focus on his target to kamui him, and he can't focus on two targets at the same time unless they are stuck together.

IF he manages to kamui Gama's head or something off, it'll still take him some time to recover. That time would be more than enough for Minato to land a hit on Kakashi.
Also, Minato can throw a few kunai around. I mean what if he aims one kunai at Kakashi and another at some random tree at the same time? Kakashi has to dodge the kunai so he can't kamui Minato (assuming Kakashi CAN actually try it). Minato can also put his FTG seal on anything. Like a rock or a tree. However, throwing a kunai takes only an instant so I doubt Kakashi can kamui Minato in that instant. Only way Kakashi can win is if he can completely seal off Minato's movements .01 seconds after the battle starts.

Kakashi can indeed warp Minato's kunai away so Minato can't teleport to those. However, he'll be open for attacks in the brief interval. Also, he'd have to warp away all the kunai that Minato throws all over the field. Even then, Minato's mobility will be decreased only a bit, as he can plant seals like I said before.

EDIT: Evidence of Gama jumping: Ch.135 Just read through it. Pg. 11-12 if you wanna get a specific pic.
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Are the people who are saying Kakashi can win totally forgetting his fight with Tobi? Think back, people. Do so, and wake up to the realization that Minato would win. (Besides, if Kakashi can beat Minato, and Minato practically beat Tobi, why didn't Kakashi just kill off Tobi the first time he proved to be an enemy?)
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Unfortunately, Kakashi had to have done it to use it as a feat. I can see where you are coming from, but Gamabunta is a large toad and Minato can warp out of Kamui (as shown in his fight against Tobi [whose teleportation jutsu is a lot like kamui, and doesn't even need prep]). For one thing, Kakashi can't kamui Minato and Gama at the same time. Kakashi actually needs to focus on his target to kamui him, and he can't focus on two targets at the same time unless they are stuck together.
When he teleported away from Tobi, he had an FTG tag set and prepped, here he doesn't. Even in the OP it says no prep. And I actually didn't say that he would do it at the same time. I said he would paralyze Gamabunta to deal with Minato, then deal with Gamabunta afterwards. Plus against the Susanoo arrow he didn't really have time to focus unlike his fight against Deidara, which suggests that his skill with kamui has increased. And in the latest manga chapter, he used kamui more than twice without need of recovery.

IF he manages to kamui Gama's head or something off, it'll still take him some time to recover. That time would be more than enough for Minato to land a hit on Kakashi.
Also, Minato can throw a few kunai around. I mean what if he aims one kunai at Kakashi and another at some random tree at the same time? Kakashi has to dodge the kunai so he can't kamui Minato (assuming Kakashi CAN actually try it). Minato can also put his FTG seal on anything. Like a rock or a tree. However, throwing a kunai takes only an instant so I doubt Kakashi can kamui Minato in that instant. Only way Kakashi can win is if he can completely seal off Minato's movements .01 seconds after the battle starts.
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Yeah, but he can anticipate where Minato is going to reappear, and attack with a Lightning Blade as soon as he appears.Throwing an FTG kunai takes a few seconds, whereas Kamui is instant as seen with the Susanoo Arrow.

Kakashi can indeed warp Minato's kunai away so Minato can't teleport to those. However, he'll be open for attacks in the brief interval. Also, he'd have to warp away all the kunai that Minato throws all over the field. Even then, Minato's mobility will be decreased only a bit, as he can plant seals like I said before.
But Minato won't be able to get to Kakashi in that interval with his FTG kunai warped to another dimension. The seals would only be useful if he places them on Kakashi for a surprise attack, otherwise the seals are useless.
EDIT: Evidence of Gama jumping: Ch.135 Just read through it. Pg. 11-12 if you wanna get a specific pic.
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Are the people who are saying Kakashi can win totally forgetting his fight with Tobi? Think back, people. Do so, and wake up to the realization that Minato would win. (Besides, if Kakashi can beat Minato, and Minato practically beat Tobi, why didn't Kakashi just kill off Tobi the first time he proved to be an enemy?)
A>B>C logic does work here. Just because A>B and B>C, doesn't mean that A>C.
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