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So, I was thinking about this recently. The Akatsuki were all some of the most powerful shinobi in the world at their time, our current time. They had some really powerful monsters in there, and even the least powerful members could potentially kill you in a single hit if they can manage land one, like Hidan or Sasori. With as unbelievably overpowered as Madara is, if he had to face the entire Akatsuki, all members past and present, could he really beat all of them? How far would he make it? So, here we are.
Location: Where Madara is fighting the Kage currently. State of Mind: In-Character, meaning Madara's arrogance will be a factor Distance: 25 yards Restrictions: Madara is not an Edo Tensei summon, so Infinite Respawn is turned off. Since we don't know what he's like without the Infinite Chakra cheat of Edo Tensei, let's just assume that he has chakra on par with Naruto, since we DO know he had an incredibly potent and large amount of the stuff, which is one reason why it wasn't so unreasonable for everyone to assume that Madara was alive and Nemo was Madara; There is one battle per day, giving a 24-hour rest in-between each fight. ~Battles~ Round I: Sasori and Deidara vs. Madara Round II: Hidan and Kakuzu vs. Madara Round III: Itachi and Kisame vs. Madara Round IV: Pain and Konan vs. Madara Round V: Sasuke (Pre-EMS; No CS; All MS Abilities) and Orochimaru vs. Madara Round VI: Zetsu and Tobi (Pre-Rinnegan) vs. Madara Round VII: Tobi and Gedo Mazo (+Tailed Beasts) vs. Madara And fight!
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i thought itd be all akatsuki vs madara at once. if hes not an edo then that removes meteor spam. but he can still negate deidaras bombs with sharingan + preta. sasoris no threat. madara just goes to susano and slashes hiruko to bits.
hidan and kakuzu cant do anything to madaras susano. they are obliterated. pain and konans more interesting. chibaku tensei, 5 elements, lack of knowing pains secrets, madaras arrogance underestimating them. should prove to be an epic duel. madara has the smarts to kill preta path quickly with mokuton. and he can figure out the 5 second gap from deva. but IC pain would never go CT from the getgo nor CST. so his best moves are out of it. his only chance is outlasting madara. can oro do edo tensei? in which case he should summon edo hashirama. but i dont know how much that will help. 25 preta path using ribcage using madaras negate any threat hashi has and eventually paralyse him wth genjutsu. then madara puts oro and sasuke to sleep with pollen. tobito is definitely the greatest threat as madara seems primarily long range and you need to be up close an personal like minato to land a hit before he can send his body to the dimension. i see this being a battle of attrition. madara attacks. it misses. madara attacks. it misses. madara tries close combat. tobi summons kurama. all bijuus is waay too much even for madara. wth preta path bijuudamas arent gonna be used except for destroying flower world and madaras forests. madara still has no way to hit tobi and now tobis got freaking rinnegan of his own plus some armour. and the uchiha flame barrier. madaras got no way of destroying gedo with PS while that things active. |
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Round I: Sasori and Deidara vs. Madara
Perfect Susanoo > Mountain slash = Stomp Round II: Hidan and Kakuzu vs. Madara Tie Madara has no way of killing/sealing Hidan. Unless he gets chibaku then he could restrain hidan and it would be a win for madara. (they cant get his blood because of Susanoo) Round III: Itachi and Kisame vs. Madara Kisame Sucks him Dry and Itachi LoLZseals him with totsuka. Itachi and Kisame win. Round IV: Pain and Konan vs. Madara Pain has preta so no jutsu for madara. konon gets killed in the crossfire(she doesnt get prep so no ocean bombs). No Mountain Slash Because of Shinra tensei. They both use chibaku tensei = Tie. Round V: Sasuke (Pre-EMS; No CS; All MS Abilities) and Orochimaru vs. Madara Amaterasu > Stomp lol. Or meteor > Stomp lol. Round VI: Zetsu and Tobi (Pre-Rinnegan) vs. Madara Madara cant hit Tobi . Zetsu Copies Tobi. Madra must fight 2 tobis. Tobi Sucks him to his dimension with susanoo and everything. Tobi and Tobi(Zetsu) win. Round VII: Tobi and Gedo Mazo (+Tailed Beasts) vs. Madara Perfect Susanoo = Bijuu(madara said it himself) not 6 Bijuu. Bijuu TBB Nuke the crap out of his susanoo and he gets sucked in the other dimension. Tobi wins.
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Three and seven are the only ones with even a remote chance of beating him,.
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If Madara is alive he can potentially die in Round 1. Sasori hits him with poison and if he somehow makes it out of that fight alive (although I don't know how he would survive Deidara's nanobombs) then he'd die over the next few days because of the poison's effects.
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I believe Madara can beat the zombie duo and Team zetsu (unless it is current zetsu)
Madara could not win much .
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Sasori & Deidara vs. Madara
Victor: Madara I give edge to Madara, though Sasori is exceptionally dangerous since every single attack he uses its poisoned, more or less. Still, he doesn't have the raw power to take on Madara... that lies with Deidara. Deidara MIGHT be able to take down Madara with C4, but this depends on whether or not microscopic bombs can penetrate Susano'o. However, I don't think they can. More than that, Deidara has shown to be weak to Genjutsu, which Madara was demonstrated to be capable of using rather well when he caught A in one, something that surprised him. Hidan & Kakuzu vs. Madara Victor: Madara; Possible Stalemate/Hidan & Kakuzu Victory? If I remember correctly, Kakuzu was stated to have once fought the almighty Hashirama? He apparently survived, and Madara has said time and again that Hashirama is the only one who can stand up to him. Does this mean one who could stand up to Hashirama could stand up to Madara? ...Seeing everything Madara can do, I don't know, honestly. He has some really crapload powerful techniques. But Kakuzu is an extremely skilled tactician and shown to be pretty intelligent. Forget the massive amounts of plot that allowed Naruto to overtake him, because that was just plot and Kishi showing off an incomplete FRS - he was really smart and fairly powerful with all 5 elements at his disposal and Domu no Jutsu making him practically invulnerable to all forms of attack save for Raiton, something Madara lacks... possibly. The Rinnegan allows for using all elements, but we've never seen him use anything other than Fire, so this is a moot point. Kakuzu is a fairly formidable opponent, and we haven't even gotten to Hidan who is a legit immortal and has a OHKO in his arsenal. If he can so much as cut Madara - very possible with Kakuzu playing distraction - it could very well be over. But, I think this is still an uphill battle for the 'Zombie Duo'. I give it to Madara 6 or 7 times out of 10 simply because of raw unadulterated power, but I think it'd be foolish to count these two out immediately. Give 'em their due - they're pretty strong. If nothing else, I think it may be possible for these two to bring things to a stalemate if they play their cards right... however unlikely, it's a possibility. Uchiha Itachi & Hoshigaki Kisame vs. Madara Victor: Uchiha Itachi & Hoshigaki Kisame Madara is exceptionally powerful, but simply put, we have seen nobody better with Genjutsu in this manga than Itachi. Period. Well, save for MAYBE Shisui, but that's another story. If anybody can best the almighty Madara's eyes, it would be Itachi, if only in Genjutsu, and what's more, Itachi's Susano'o has the Yata Mirror and Sword of Totsuga(sp?) at its disposal, making it not only more durable than any other Susano'o we've seen up to this point since it can reflect all types of attack, but also more powerful, since it can seal whoever is hit by that sword for an eternity. Itachi doesn't have TOO much chakra, so his Susano'o would definitely be a one-off and put him in a really weak state, but I think that Itachi alone MIGHT be able to pull it off. But throw Kisame into the mix, and there's just no contest. As formidable as Itachi is, Kisame is just an outright powerhouse, and he's the only person in the manga whose chakra can reasonably be compared to Naruto's, whose chakra pool is being used as the basis for Madara's. What's more, Kisame can constantly replenish his chakra through Samehada, AND heal any and all wounds through Samehada. And let's not forget about that water dome and his Samehada fusion. I'm sorry, but even with Susano'o, Madara can't breathe underwater, and unless he uses his Rinnegan powers, he won't be able to touch Kisamehada, let alone keep up with him. Then there's the part about Kisamehada being able to steal the chakra from people just by touching them. Samehada was enough to eat several tails of Killer Bee's Jinchuriki state in a single swing, and iirc, this chakra absorption is only boosted in Kisamehada mode. The two of these guys together against Madara doesn't leave him with many options, I don't think. So yeah. Edge, Itachi & Kisame. Pain & Konan vs. Madara Victor: Pain & Konan It'd be a close/tough battle. Uchiha Sasuke & Orochimaru vs. Madara Victor: Madara/Possible Stalemate? I think this really depends on what was on that scroll, and what knowledge Orochimaru has. Otherwise, as crafty he is and as powerful as Sasuke can be, Madara outclasses them in every way. Zetsu & Tobi (Pre-Rinnegan) vs. Madara Victory: Zetsu & Tobi I touched on this before, but Zetsu can copy anybody he touches, or at least White Zetsu can. This makes him a real wild card, because he can be ANYBODY he wants. Let's just say he only has access to the other Akatsuki and Madara, if he can touch him - either way, this potentially makes him a force to be reckoned with. The 100,000 Naked White Guy Army is fodder, but those White Zetsu aren't as powerful as the original, as we saw when he fought as Kisame against Killer Bee. So Zetsu MIGHT be able to be a pretty good ally here, but ignoring that, Tobi has incredible knowledge on ninjutsu and the like and great battle strategy capabilities, and seems to know more about Madara than anyone. I'm sure he already has prior knowledge on all his abilities. Even saying that he doesn't, a touch is all that's required to take Madara out of the battle and store him indefinitely in some other plane of existence. What's more, Tobi can just turn intangible whenever Madara uses anything too strong. So yeah. Edge, Zetsu and Tobi. They're a pretty hax team. Tobi & Gedo Mazo (+Tailed Beasts) vs. Madara Victory: Tobi & Gedo Mazo This was pretty much just an exercise for Madara's Perfect Susano'o. Madara claims it's as strong as a bijuu - can it take on 6 at once? AND the Heretical Demon Statue, which displayed quite a bit of power in that bout against the army. This isn't even including Tobi's natural abilities and all the 6 Paths of Pain's abilities, now granted to him because of the Rinnegan. I don't see Madara winning this one. He'll kill himself through overexertion against the Tailed Beasts and Gedo Mazo before he can take down Tobi, I think.
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There's a somewhat decent chance for Tobi to win for the last scenario. Madara stomps for the rest.
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Just remember, Madara can see C4 mini-explosives. And probably right through the whole technique.
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That would not be IC for Deidara
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