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Old 08-03-2012, 12:29 PM   #101
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Default Re: Mei and Gaara vs. Tsunade and Jiraiya

OP doesn't say in character. So we assume intent to kill, meaning what ever is plausible can happen.

So she will use all she can, and thus can win because Kishi overpowered her.

The question is can Tsuande get in her slug in time. Probably so for Gaaara because Gaara is insanely slow(including his sand). Mei can shoot her lava faster than Sasuke can react.
So I say Tsuande is fried before she can summon and jump in her slug. But it's close.
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Old 08-03-2012, 12:34 PM   #102
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OP doesn't say out of character, so in character is the default. And in character, Tsunade won't use all of the means available to her.

Gaara's sand can block Amaterasu. Not really insanely slow.
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Old 08-03-2012, 12:39 PM   #103
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Default is intent to kill, not in character

That has nothing to do with speed. Even Lee in base form can move faster than it. Soo insanely slow.
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Old 08-03-2012, 12:58 PM   #104
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http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88740

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Even Lee in base form can move faster than it. Soo insanely slow.
That was back in Part 1. You sayin he hasn't gotten stronger since his fight with Lee? Cause that's bullplop.
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Old 08-03-2012, 01:49 PM   #105
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With knowledge of Garra and Mei Tsunade would use summonings especially when Jiryria is there. They used it together in the War

With Garra rising to the sky the only way to battle him is with a summoning.
It would be foolish for them to sit there
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Old 08-03-2012, 02:39 PM   #106
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That was back in Part 1. You sayin he hasn't gotten stronger since his fight with Lee? Cause that's bullplop.
Did you not see the "but with?" THat is a modifer, meaning not in character. Tsunade wants to kill them not die herself, so she will use tactics to win. To say anything else is specious.

Getting stronger does not equal sand speed increasing. Show one time were we have direct time measurement of his sand speed increase.

His using it as a block against A and Sasuke doess't count because we have no idea when he arrived.
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Old 08-03-2012, 02:51 PM   #107
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Jiraiya kills Tsunade for sucking.
Jiraiya kills himself for touching Tsunade.
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Did you not see the "but with?" THat is a modifer, meaning not in character. Tsunade wants to kill them not die herself, so she will use tactics to win. To say anything else is specious.
In character but with intent to kill means they are willing to kill their opponent, even if they would not normally do so (e.g. Sanji vs a female) while still using the same tactics that they always do.

It does not mean that they instantly stop acting like themselves and use the best possible moves they have right out of the gate.

That's why it's a modifier and not a completelyrewritetheirpersonalitiesifier.

Because it modifies a set condition. It doesn't completely exempt it.
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In character but with intent to kill means they are willing to kill their opponent, even if they would not normally do so (e.g. Sanji vs a female) while still using the same tactics that they always do.

It does not mean that they instantly stop acting like themselves and use the best possible moves they have right out of the gate.

That's why it's a modifier and not a completelyrewritetheirpersonalitiesifier.

Because it modifies a set condition. It doesn't completely exempt it.
They will use tactics that will allow them to not die.

You AND the Prince both foolishly suggest one would not use there best attack because of a weakness of an opponent, but then go on to state a loss. Perhaps you may chew on this pathetic argument and those that use it. If you opponent is better than you, you will use the strongest attack availble. End of story.

But there is more. The reason for this state of mind is that before it was bloodlusted and people use that to state the natural intelligence no longer applies and he would run into a death trap. The state of mind only means that no one is stupid and will use any means necessary to win. Why? Becuase they have intent to kill.

So, good job. You are wrong in both the letter and spirit of the rule.
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:11 PM   #110
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No, you're still wrong. Even if the rule for some reason put Byakugo back on the table, that doesn't mean that Tsunade will instantly decide to use it. She's willing to do what it takes to win in Naruto, including severely injure herself for the opportunity, but she only ever used Byakugo against Madara, an apocalypticly powerful opponent.

Like I said before, in character but with intent to kill means they are willing to kill their opponent, even if they would not normally do so (e.g. Sanji vs a female) while still using the same tactics that they always do.

She'll stick with basis fisticuffs for starters. In the event she lives that long, she'll then use Creation Rebirth to heal any wounds she may have incurred. Supposing against all odds she manages to survive long enough to say "If I don't use X I'll die!", then she will use Byakugo.

This is called in character because it is the pattern that Tsunade in the series would follow.

Similarly, Deidara would never automatically resort to spamming C0, nor Pain Chibaku Tensei, nor the Sauce Kirin.

If she were out of character, she would do as you say, but since she is not out of character, she will be following the patterns has displayed to this point.

Argue as you like, it don't make you any less wrong.
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Agreeing with ur Creation of Rebirth theory BUT

She would easily summon her slugs before that point where she uses Creation of Rebirth.

Why would she not summmon
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We've already been over that, Sally. Piss off until you can provide a real contribution.
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Sannin win with summonings... all I am saying
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No one cares about how inbred you are PrinceofPeace, the fact that your father is also your grandfather is not something to brag about.
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With A slug and at best 3 toad bosses it will be hard for Gaara to use Sand coffin on all of them
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No, you're still wrong. Even if the rule for some reason put Byakugo back on the table, that doesn't mean that Tsunade will instantly decide to use it. She's willing to do what it takes to win in Naruto, including severely injure herself for the opportunity, but she only ever used Byakugo against Madara, an apocalypticly powerful opponent.

Like I said before, in character but with intent to kill means they are willing to kill their opponent, even if they would not normally do so (e.g. Sanji vs a female) while still using the same tactics that they always do.

She'll stick with basis fisticuffs for starters. In the event she lives that long, she'll then use Creation Rebirth to heal any wounds she may have incurred. Supposing against all odds she manages to survive long enough to say "If I don't use X I'll die!", then she will use Byakugo.

This is called in character because it is the pattern that Tsunade in the series would follow.

Similarly, Deidara would never automatically resort to spamming C0, nor Pain Chibaku Tensei, nor the Sauce Kirin.

If she were out of character, she would do as you say, but since she is not out of character, she will be following the patterns has displayed to this point.

Argue as you like, it don't make you any less wrong.
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