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Old 06-18-2012, 03:59 PM   #21
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Itachi wins.

If Itachi isn't ill and Nagato has trouble moving, as stated in original post, Itachi would quickly out maneuver Nagato. Then hits him with a genjutsu. It has already been shown that genjustu can affect the rinnengan. Itachi throws a shuriken in Nagato's face while under genjutsu. Battle over.
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THERE ISNT ANYTHING THAT SAYS HE CANT SUMMON KONAN. SO KONAN IS AVIALABLE.t
Amaterasu to Konan. Konan goes down in flames. Point Itachi.
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Prince just because Kakuzu and Hidan Fought together doesn't mean that in all debates Kakuzu gets Hidan or vice versa.

But I agree nagato wins even without her.
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itachi wins.

If itachi isn't ill and nagato has trouble moving, as stated in original post, itachi would quickly out maneuver nagato. Then hits him with a genjutsu. It has already been shown that genjustu can affect the rinnengan. Itachi throws a shuriken in nagato's face while under genjutsu. Battle over.


no eyesigh genjutsu works on rinnegan!it was stated in the manga in recent chapters.
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THERE ISNT ANYTHING THAT SAYS HE CANT SUMMON KONAN. SO KONAN IS AVIALABLE.

ALIMIGHTY PUSH destroyed the whole village so susanoo doesnt stand a chance nor does itachi hiding while his clone takes the hit
No because the matchup is specifically between Nagato and Itachi.

There is no one else. Summons are an exception because they are counted as tools and part of the ninja's power in technicality.

Konan is another ninja but if you still disagree ask or PM the OP for clarification to see if Konan is allowed.
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Amaterasu to Konan. Konan goes down in flames. Point Itachi.

yeah caue konan would just sit there waithing to get ammy. No she can fly away and dodge
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yeah caue konan would just sit there waithing to get ammy. No she can fly away and dodge
The Raikage moves just fast enough to dodge Sasuke's Amaterasu. Itachi is faster than Sasuke and Konan is nowhere near as fast as the Raikage. So, I don't think Konan can really do anything about it.

And that was just the fastest order of events to take down Konan. Itachi could trap her in a genjutsu then hit her with a fireball. No MS required. Point...still Itachi's.
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no eyesigh genjutsu works on rinnegan!it was stated in the manga in recent chapters.
That's incorrect. Genjutsu couldn't affect the Six Paths of Pain because of the Rinnengan. Not because the Rinnengan was immune, because of the shared vision between the different paths. Jarayia showed that if all the Rinnengan user were caught in a genjustu at the same time, it could be done.

According to the OP, one Nagato vs. one Itachi. Last time I checked, genjutsu was Itachi specialty.
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That's incorrect. Genjutsu couldn't affect the Six Paths of Pain because of the Rinnengan. Not because the Rinnengan was immune, because of the shared vision between the different paths. Jarayia showed that if all the Rinnengan user were caught in a genjustu at the same time, it could be done.

According to the OP, one Nagato vs. one Itachi. Last time I checked, genjutsu was Itachi specialty.

That was sound genjutsu.Itachi doesn't have sound genjutsu only eyesigh genjutsu That won't work on rinnegan.Actually itachi said it himself in the manga that you can't use sharingan genjutsu on someone with same eyes and we all know what rinnegan is.

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That was sound genjutsu.Itachi doesn't have sound genjutsu only eyesigh genjutsu That won't work on rinnegan.Actually itachi said it himself in the manga that you can't use sharingan genjutsu on someone with same eyes and we all know what rinnegan is.

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That theory was disproved in the original Naruto series. Kakashi made Kurenai and Asuma close there eyes against Itachi. He said only a Sharingan could avoid genjutsu by another. If you closely watch Itachi's eyes, he did not use the MS to trap Kakashi.

Nagato has shown no genjutsu abilities. Therefore, it is plausible that someone who is adept in genjutsu might be able to catch him in one. Up to this point he never had a reason to train his eyes against it.
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The Raikage moves just fast enough to dodge Sasuke's Amaterasu. Itachi is faster than Sasuke and Konan is nowhere near as fast as the Raikage. So, I don't think Konan can really do anything about it.

And that was just the fastest order of events to take down Konan. Itachi could trap her in a genjutsu then hit her with a fireball. No MS required. Point...still Itachi's.
Fire does not work on Konan neither does water its only oil that would be effective plus she has a bunch of paper clones and from your posts Itachi si really focused on Konan So Pain would attack.
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That theory was disproved in the original Naruto series. Kakashi made Kurenai and Asuma close there eyes against Itachi. He said only a Sharingan could avoid genjutsu by another. If you closely watch Itachi's eyes, he did not use the MS to trap Kakashi.

Nagato has shown no genjutsu abilities. Therefore, it is plausible that someone who is adept in genjutsu might be able to catch him in one. Up to this point he never had a reason to train his eyes against it.
Itachi does not NEED MS to get Kakshi in genjutsu
Just cause it is possible dosent mean IT WILL HAPPEN.
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That theory was disproved in the original Naruto series. Kakashi made Kurenai and Asuma close there eyes against Itachi. He said only a Sharingan could avoid genjutsu by another. If you closely watch Itachi's eyes, he did not use the MS to trap Kakashi.

Nagato has shown no genjutsu abilities. Therefore, it is plausible that someone who is adept in genjutsu might be able to catch him in one. Up to this point he never had a reason to train his eyes against it.


Itachi used Tsukuyomi to trap Kakashi that time and that means he used MS to do it.

nagato doesn't have to train his eyes against genjutsu since he already has rinnegan,Deidara had to do it since he got normal eyes.

Why Nagato has to show genjutsu abilities to no be caught in genjutsu?it makes no sense.Deidara has shown no genjutsu abilities but he is able to see through genjutsu.

Itachi said it himself so idk why are you arguing.
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The only genjutsu feats from Nagato is placing mental barriers in his subordinates.
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The Raikage moves just fast enough to dodge Sasuke's Amaterasu. Itachi is faster than Sasuke and Konan is nowhere near as fast as the Raikage. So, I don't think Konan can really do anything about it.

And that was just the fastest order of events to take down Konan. Itachi could trap her in a genjutsu then hit her with a fireball. No MS required. Point...still Itachi's.
ITACHI IS NOT FASTER THAN SASKUE. It was commented at the summit that saskue was better with amaterasu than Itachi.

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ITACHI IS NOT FASTER THAN SASKUE. It was commented at the summit that saskue was better with amaterasu than Itachi.

What proof do YOU have Itachi is faster
Being superior in using Amaterasu has nothing to do with being actually faster in movement or in reflex.
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The Raikage moves just fast enough to dodge Sasuke's Amaterasu. Itachi is faster than Sasuke and Konan is nowhere near as fast as the Raikage. So, I don't think Konan can really do anything about it.- rygy523(this is what you posted)

From this quote I gather you are talking about the speed of Amaterasu. What does the Raikage's speed or Saskue's speed have anything to do with it.

Either way the more you talk about what Itachi would do to Konan Pain is on the move to attack Itachi.

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