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Old 05-27-2012, 05:40 PM   #1
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Default How did all those Uchiha members use Izanagi?

In order to use Izanagi, don't you need both Uchiha and Senju DNA to use it. How did all those Uchiha use Izanagi? Did they just get blood from the Senju and just transfer it into them or something? I hope Kishi isn't trolling
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:33 PM   #2
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No...u don't need senju DNA...i think we all got confused cuz danzo had senju. But the reason why we had the senju DNA is to be able to wield 11 sharingans at once without passing out like kakashi.
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Default Re: How did all those Uchiha members use Izanagi?

More importantly, why was its use so prolific when it can be used twice in any given person's lifetime? Failing murdering your brother for his eyes...
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I think that Senju DNA only makes the jutsu last longer.
Also, a long time ago, Uchiha bloodline was stronger and closer to the sage, maybe that's why they were able to use it more than twice.

We also have Danzou's way, steal Sharingan from dead members and...voila!
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Never said Senju DNA was required, it only helped Danzo use the jutsu easier and more efficiently

I mean come on how would they discover the technique in the first place? Some random
Uchiha implants Senju dna into himself for no reason and makes Izanagi ?
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I'm thinking the Jutsu was not a Dojutsu before, and the Uchiha did something to limit its power and make it a Dojutsu.
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Well, 2 things

1. We know that Izanagi use Yin and Yang (Physical and spiritual energy). So you have Yin chakra to create shape and form from nothingness. Then you have Yang chakra so you would breathe life into the prior form. Thus, a technique with the power to turn imagination into reality of course. In other words, to control your own state of existence

2. We also know that you need both Senju and Uchiha DNA to fully use Izanagi. Now, what I mean to fully use of Izanagi, is the last sentence from the first explanation I wrote. Now, if you have only Uchiha DNA like Itachi for example, you can only have brief control of reality. If you have both Senju and Uchiha DNA, you obviously can have the ability to remove the boundaries between reality and illusion within their personal space.

Hope that explains it.
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^ What? who are u? at first i'm like, that's a lotta text from TBC, then I saw rep power:0
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Ha-ha-ha! Another TBC!
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Well, 2 things

1. We know that Izanagi use Yin and Yang (Physical and spiritual energy). So you have Yin chakra to create shape and form from nothingness. Then you have Yang chakra so you would breathe life into the prior form. Thus, a technique with the power to turn imagination into reality of course. In other words, to control your own state of existence

2. We also know that you need both Senju and Uchiha DNA to fully use Izanagi. Now, what I mean to fully use of Izanagi, is the last sentence from the first explanation I wrote. Now, if you have only Uchiha DNA like Itachi for example, you can only have brief control of reality. If you have both Senju and Uchiha DNA, you obviously can have the ability to remove the boundaries between reality and illusion within their personal space.

Hope that explains it.
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See Danzo Is Different Compared To All Other Uchica Meaning You Don't Need Senju DNA For Izanagi That Just Helps Improves It For Example Look At Senju Which Can Hold 11 Sharingan While Uchica Can Only Hold 2 Then Again Since Hes Not A True Heir To Uchica Seemily He Can Only Do Izangai For One Minute Each Izanami Which Was. Dojustu Use To Stop Izanagi Also You Need Both Uchica And Senju DNA To Fully Complete Izangai Meaning For Example Itachi Only Has Uchica DNA He's Limted To Only Have Brief Control Over Relaity While If You Have Both Uchica And Senju DNA Not Only Do You Have A Longer Time To Expand Izanagi But You Also Have More Control Over Illusion and Reality.
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Ok Then Something Must Have Happen With Uchia That Seperate Them From Senju
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Only other explanation is that Kishi forgot, or The Uchiha still had senju blood in them. The further down the family tree you go, the more distant the senju blood becomes, and the ability to use Izanagi fades


But that doesn't explain how Itachi can use Izanami, unless it doesn't require senju DNA which I doubt it does
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I think that Senju DNA is required only to those who are not Uchiha, like Danzo.
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^Tobi actually SAID that "Only those who have Senju and Uchiha something something can use this power"

I like my explanation bettah

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The jutsu are a pair because one stops the other. Being a pair doesn't equate to the same requirements.
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No...u don't need senju DNA...i think we all got confused cuz danzo had senju. But the reason why we had the senju DNA is to be able to wield 11 sharingans at once without passing out like kakashi.
This.

This is the only reason he had Senju DNA.

Besides that, I think the only way to achieve Rinnegan is with the power of an Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Senju DNA.
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so tobi lied about needing senju dna also in order to use a complete izangi. But why did he lie?
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