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Old 05-15-2012, 12:30 PM   #21
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No it means seal as in stuck in a drawing

Not if Sai SHaft bind Hidan's arms THe snakes can even bind Sasuke for a while, meaning Hidan can do nothing while Sai Shaft activates the tiger seal. In any case, the snakes are certainly stronger than Shikamaru's shadow binding and sticking, and Sai Shaft never needs to get anywhere near Hidan. That is the power of his technique.
According to you:

Hidan's scythe, which moves freely even if his arm is still, will not work if his arm does not move.

Sai's ink drawings, which we have seen easily repelled, are strong enough to restrain a sadistic, immortal, acrobatic man. They are so strong that Shikamaru's technique isn't even as strong.

Sai's technique we have seen been repelled.

Shikamaru's shadow has never been countered. One it has that person, there has been no way shown to get out. The only escape is if Shikamaru gets tired.
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:33 PM   #22
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Sai got alot better at his drawings. Techniques i shoulda said. And Shikamaru's really isnt as strong. Keyword AS. It is very powerful though
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According to you:

Hidan's scythe, which moves freely even if his arm is still, will not work if his arm does not move.

Sai's ink drawings, which we have seen easily repelled, are strong enough to restrain a sadistic, immortal, acrobatic man. They are so strong that Shikamaru's technique isn't even as strong.

Sai's technique we have seen been repelled.

Shikamaru's shadow has never been countered. One it has that person, there has been no way shown to get out. The only escape is if Shikamaru gets tired.
This is the most ridculous thing I have ever read. Withdraw it immediately.
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:38 PM   #24
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Sai got alot better at his drawings. Techniques i shoulda said. And Shikamaru's really isnt as strong. Keyword AS. It is very powerful though
That's impossible. If Shikamaru was Naruto and had infinite determination, with a huge amount of chakra, since Naruto would not get tired for a long time, the jutsu would never wear off.

Maybe I should say it like this

A snake can get cut, but a shadow can't.

Can you even explain how Hidan would get caught in the first place? You never said anything about his scythe.
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Old 05-15-2012, 12:44 PM   #25
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No.

When I say something I mean it. I'm see the fight right now.

Hidan walks over to Asuma to finish him off. When Hidan gets close, Asuma attempts to slash him. This results in a failure. Hidan jumps back, while smiling. While he is flying back (Note: His arms are not doing anything special) his scythe magically flys towards him.

This magical scythe seems to be connected to Hidan himself. He controls it without using any effort.
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No.

When I say something I mean it. I'm see the fight right now.

Hidan walks over to Asuma to finish him off. When Hidan gets close, Asuma attempts to slash him. This results in a failure. Hidan jumps back, while smiling. While he is flying back (Note: His arms are not doing anything special) his scythe magically flys towards him.

This magical scythe seems to be connected to Hidan himself. He controls it without using any effort.
Untrue. If that was the case and it worked like Gaara's sand, as you're saying it moves of its own will or by some connection to Hidan, then Shikamaru's Shadow Possession wouldn't effect Hidan's ability to use his scythe. Unlike Gaara, who could still use his sand under possession.
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Old 05-15-2012, 03:33 PM   #27
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Untrue. If that was the case and it worked like Gaara's sand, as you're saying it moves of its own will or by some connection to Hidan, then Shikamaru's Shadow Possession wouldn't effect Hidan's ability to use his scythe. Unlike Gaara, who could still use his sand under possession.
Remember when I said Kishi dumbed down Hidan for the second fight? Check again. The rope is removed.

Remember, unlike Gaara's sand the scythe is connected to Hidan. We have never even seen Gaara in a possession before, so you can't even make that assumption.
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Gaara was possessed in the hospital bro, when he tried to kill Lee. You're the one making assumptions.
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I think Hidan's scythe is smarter than Hidan. I am sure it has BA in literature at least. Who agrees?
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Gaara was possessed in the hospital bro, when he tried to kill Lee. You're the one making assumptions.
Oh I forgot,but you just killed your own case. lol.

Hidans scythe is physically connected to him. That means their shadows are connected.

You should remember that being restrained physically is different than being restrained with Shadow Clone Jutsu.

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Shadow Clones?

What case? Gaara was caught in Shadow Possession jutsu. Used sand.
Hidan was caught in Shadow Possession jutsu. Didn't use scythe.
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Clearly the best way to fight Hidan is restain his Scythe. That's the brains of the operation. Then he will be helpless.
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The kitty sig makes all your posts seem lighthearted and sweet.
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Shadow Clones?

What case? Gaara was caught in Shadow Possession jutsu. Used sand.
Hidan was caught in Shadow Possession jutsu. Didn't use scythe.
Gaara can control sand by embedding it with chakra.

Hidan can control his scythe by unknown means. It is safe to assume that the scythe is connected to his physically.

If someone wrapped snakes around him physically, the scythe can still move because user does not have restrictions to the scythe.

One operates on Chakra, while one is unknown.

Shadow Clone jutsu makes it so that the possessed must do the same as the user. If someone has a third arm (connected to the person physically), it will be unactive.

If someone has a special sand that he manipulates with his mind, then that person can still use that.
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It's unknown, exactly. The idea that his scythe can move on its own is clearly your own opinion because you saw a non-canon anime scene where it seemed to move on its own. It's also not a snake, it's a Scythe.

You keep saying Magic, I'm not sure they taught us about that at the academy.
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Nobody forget that this guy has super speedy recovery in the Jashin Circle, and that his body is so strong, that is has been damaged significantly only by being surrounded in explosive tags.

Can such a person be restrained by snakes?
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It's unknown, exactly. The idea that his scythe can move on its own is clearly your own opinion because you saw a non-canon anime scene where it seemed to move on its own. It's also not a snake, it's a Scythe.

You keep saying Magic, I'm not sure they taught us about that at the academy.
Did I ever say that it moves on its own or did you bring that up. I simply said he can control it without moving himself (that includes his arm) physically.

Manga or Anime, he still had the scythe which operates the same way.
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Hidan moves his scythe by controlling with his coil of rope with an expert usage of skill.

That is why when Hidan's coil was destroyed by Shikamaru's initial explosive tag attack Hidan was forced to wield it like a regular weapon.
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No, the scythe controls Hidan. When the rope was broke, the sycthe had to be in Hidan's hand so it could control him.

I might be going on a limb here, but I think the scythe is Jashin.
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