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current Madara (edo)
VS Minato Itachi (healthy but not edo) Nagato (single body form) Jiraiya Gaara Battlefield: area where 5 kages vs madara is now happening There are no restrictions on anyone. 1st/2nd scenario: Mu is with Madara/ he isn't. |
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Easy win for the other team even with Muu.
Gaara sets up the battlefield with his sensory sand which forces Muu to take to the air. Nagato helps everyone out with his summons giving Minato the bird so he can take down Muu in the air, Jiraiya the chameleon so he can hide while he charges up Sage Mode, and summoning the rhino and dog to attack. Nagato uses Bansho Tenin to draw Madara into Itachi's Sword of Totsuka. Madara goes on the defensive avoiding eye contact with Itachi and missiles from Nagato's Asura Path while Gaara is grabbing at his feet with Susano'o. After a few minutes of fighting Jiraiya emerges from the chameleon in Sage Mode with Ma and Pa having charged up for the genjutsu. They perform Sage Technique: Frog Song and everyone within ear shot gets knocked out. Jiraiya seals Madara and Muu and goes for some sake. I don't see any way that the other side can win here. |
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Madara wins effortlessly.
Minato is the only real threat and without prep, he cant do anything. Last edited by Cult of Personality; 05-07-2012 at 02:31 PM. |
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Giant Rock.The end.
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I really dont understand why the two posts above me just ignore JLI2infinity and type a one line comment
There is really no point in typing I really agree with his point
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By the by, if you're going to post make some effort to debate. Just saying 'I agree with whatshisnuts' is against the rules.
Gaara: Gets speedblitzed. Jiraiya: Speedblitzed. Minato: Speedblitzed. Itachi: Giant Ass Rock no Jutsued Nagato: Giant Ass Rock no Jutsued. Gaara and Jiraiya goes without saying. Itachi is just a poor man's Madara and Madara can do anything Nagato can do, so they're fodder. Madara is currently loling at A, who's already proven himself faster than Minato. All in all the only way this could be more of a rape in Madara's favor is if he had the ability to summon Kyuubi. Last edited by Shikamaru Nara; 05-07-2012 at 02:42 PM. |
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I forgot, but where is it proven that A is faster than Minato? Does anyone think Yata Mirror or a Shinra Tensei could stop the double meteor attack? Also, wouldn't Madara's egotistical nature get in the way of him trying to speedblitz these characters? I would think he would just let them prepare their techniques because he thinks he's invincible anyway. |
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Yes but nagato couldn't use Shinra Tensei and other techniques for some time then.Also madara can Shinra Tensei Totsuka sword.Who said Jiraiya can seal anybody O.o he doesn't have any sealing technique. Muu can go invinsible and use jinton to kill gaara and jiraiya from their blind spots. Madara can stomp others. |
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Chapter 542 Minato was only barely able to avoid A's attack when he started from maybe midrange, in close range A would wreck him like the overrated piece of trash he is.
There is nothing to remotely suggest that Shinra Tensei or Yata Mirror can do anything to Madara's meteors. Anyone who claims they can is an idiot. Personality is not taken into account in BG matches. The characters are going for the kill regardless of whether or not they would normally do so. |
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I believe a shinra tensei like one done to Konoha can stop meteors but then nagato is uselles for rest of the match. |
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Even supposing it could, which is unlikely because the meteors are considerably larger than Konoha, Madara just casts one and when Nagato blows his load, he fires off the other.
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A very circuitous path to reach such a wrong conclusion. As to Naruto "blitzing" A, he was not going all out. As to Tobi blitzing Naruto, that part I don't recall in detail, so I won't comment on it except to say that you'll have to prove that current Tobi is just as fast as he was 15 years prior. He's gotten quite a bit more powerful since then, it stands to reason that his speed has similarly increase.
Character statements are meaningless. I don't know the point of mentioning A being able to blitz Madara with Onoki's help... And yes, Minato does need prep to deal with something like a Tailed Beast Ball or Madara's meteors. Simple teleporation won't protect him from them. But I can tell you won't accept any of this, owing to the fact that you're a fanboy with little to no idea what you're talking about. To that end, I'll just block you and save myself the trouble of having to read your whining about how Minato iz teh 1337 haxx0rz. Last edited by Cult of Personality; 05-07-2012 at 09:10 PM. |
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Madara vs all first five konoha hokages
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Disagreed with mostly everything Cult has said.
Meteor isn't much of an issue to me. Minato can easily FTG all of his allies outside the falling range of the meteor. Since Minato would need to throw enough Kunai to reach outside the radius, Gaara could buy him time by slowing down the meteor at least a little. It's about the same size as the shield he protected Sunagakure with, so not the first time. Anyway, Minato teleports them out. From there, Gaara is free to set up a sand shield for any debris or side-impact damage, or Nagato could just Shinra Tensei to block anything that might damage them . Itachi's strategy making is much greater than the current Kage, as is Minato's who devised a way to damage Tobi, transport a TBB, pin the Kyuubi, and whatever else he did. Susano'o is mostly irrelevant just because of the opponents. Gaara can yank him out from under, but even without that, a combination of Yasaka Magatama, Giant Rasengans, and Shinra Tensei are more than enough to handle something Tsunade could. Mass Summon spam makes issues for Madara as well. Gamabunta(Minato), Ma, Pa, Cerberus, Moth, Centipede, Gamasamurai, Chameleon, more than enough to lol at Mokuton clones. Everyone on the alliance is mid-to-high Legend level. In comparison to the Kage team, which only has one Mid-Legend(A), to low-legends(Onoki/Gaara) and two Kage-level fodders(Tsunade, Mei.) Mist and healing is cute, but whatever. Someone brought up Frog Song as well earlier, which is completely viable. It at least paralyzes Madara long enough to have a Totsuka Sword shoved through him. For Madara's katon, all of the frog summons and Nagato are capable of using powerful Suiton to block. Oh. And Nagato has a Preta Path too. It's not that the Alliance is stronger than Madara, it's just that they are comprised of members that have the capability to counter every one of Madara's techniques until Itachi gets the chance to seal him. |
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Cult's being a stubborn as usual I'd suggest we address his points but only to show how this team counters his techniques don't bother explaining his blatantly biased opinion or weak one-liners suggesting that Madara would win.
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Anyways @BlackChidori made some good points... The meteor is hardly an issue there are plenty of ways to cope with it...Gaara protected himself and some if his comrades from it with sand after being exhausted from his two previous battles, I don't see why he couldn't do the same for his friends. On top of that, Minato could simply teleport them all away from it. Also, A blitzed Madara without Onoki's help too and sent Madara flying into a rock and he wasn't even at full power...Minato wouldn't have a problem speed blitzing. Itachi's Susano'o > Madara's Susano'o. Also Madara won't even be able to activate his Susano'o with Nagato there absorbing all his techniques with Preta Path. Madara's a sitting duck for Itachi's Susano'o attacks. Not to mention if any of the members of the team get killed all Nagato has to do is go over to their corpses and use Naraka path to bring them back to life it's the same thing as making them Edo. Meanwhile, like I said before, Jiraiya is peacefully sitting in the background while Ma and Pa charge up sage chakra for Frog Song....GG. Any two of these shinobi would be a match for Madara let alone all 5 of them. People overestimate Madara too much. |
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Minato ain't gonna be FTGing anyone if he's dead. Speedblitzed and what not.
Itachi's strategy making "skills" are what's responsible for making Sasuke the psychotic wreck he is. Itachi couldn't strategize his way out of a paper bag. Gaara ain't gonna be yanking anyone if he's dead. Speedblitzed and what not. Similarly, Jiraiya won't be summoning anyone on account of being dead. Speedblitzed and what not. Which leaves Nagato as the last man standing. What's he gonna do? Preta Path won't protect against being crushed by a mountain sized meteor. Last edited by Cult of Personality; 05-08-2012 at 12:29 PM. |
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Is he also arguing that Itachi isn't a strategic genius? Itachi's the only one not under Edo Tensei right now I think that shows he's genius enough, Tobi's already cursed Itachi numerous times for planning so far ahead. Itachi has a failsafe for his failsafe's failsafe...that's how far in advanced he thinks. Is there anyone else on this thread who thinks that Madara will win, because if it's just one guy spouting off crazy ideas I think this is pretty much case closed. |
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Would Meteor get sucked in Chibaku Tensei?
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