Spoiler Revival Of The Juubi (JashinSama Figured It Out)

[kalmeast]

It looks like i got the opportunity to curse out ppl and say Jashin asked me to do it Just kidding... Our own friend can't make threads for some time so As an enlightened former disciple of Jashin, I thought I could lend a hand...All reps and credits go to JashinSama not Me. here it goes. JashinSama's Post...

Creation of All Things: It is what made the Juubi into Nine Beasts, right?

Okay, so if Tobi takes them all out of the Gedo Mazo, then uses Creation of All Things, he can then create the Juubi.

Here's my theory:

Tobi and Madara both have access to Creation of All Things!

Sharingan:

Izanagi, lose your eyesight.

Izanami, lose your eyesight.

Rinnegan:

Creation of All Things, lose your eyesight?

What if that's what happens when you use Creation of All Things, it's the ultimate Rinnegan jutsu, and that's why they haven't used it yet, because if they did, they couldn't finish their plan to revive the Juubi.


This would also be the reason why we didn't see the Sage of the 6 Paths' eyes when we saw him talking to the Nine Beasts, because he didn't have the Rinnegan anymore![/QUOTE]

[kalmeast]

I like this theory...This could be the counter damage To Tobi's Goal. Perhaps he himself doesn't know about this...that's if it's the case. I mean, we haven't seen any close-up photo of Rikoudo after he distributed the 9 bijuus. Hmm...

What else i get from this is that, then, If Tobi uses The Rinnegan creation of all things to bring back the Juubi, he would have created an Enemy he doesn't have the Rinnegan To Control. Unlike the RS who creates baby bijuus from the Jutsu and wouldn't need the rinnegan to control them cus they're his "pets"... hmm. Good theory.

[JashinSama]

Hmm... I'm thinking that his 'Sharingan Control Genjutsu' won't work on the Juubi.

[kalmeast]

^especially if the sharingan came from the Juubi, it'd be a joke for Tobi to wanna control it with the Juubi's own original weapon...

[jkd29663]

well this might not even matter considering that naruto would have to die basically and lose his kyuubi, But wouldn't that end the series i mean what could happen after that who would stand a chance

[JashinSama]

^Naruto still has Sage Mode.

Naruto is an Uzumaki, he wouldn't die if the beast was extracted from him.

Plus, Tobi already has chakra from ALL 9 beasts.

[HokageSoulReaper]

Good theory, and if Tobi does know about the damage to his eyes, that explains why he insists on helping Sasuke, as Tobi could end up with Itachi's eyes (that are on Sasuke now)

[JashinSama]

^Plus Sasuke's eyes in general.

And that he could use Sasuke for the revival of the Juubi so that he doesn't have to do it himself.

[HokageSoulReaper]

Yeah, Sasuke would fulfill the scapegoat's role he's in line for since joining Tobi

[kalmeast]

Ah...or is it why Tobi is using only one Rinnegan for now so when it is rendered useless he could pull out the 2nd one? hmm

@jkd29663Tobi can't capture the kuubi now. Kurama is free to roam around, he's not caged up anymore so he could hide anywhere in naruto's body...testicles for instance...I'm not sure Tobi would know to search those areas for Kuubi...

[EYE OF AGES]

Originally Posted by kalmeast

Ah...or is it why Tobi is using only one Rinnegan for now so when it is rendered useless he could pull out the 2nd one? hmm

@jkd29663Tobi can't capture the kuubi now. Kurama is free to roam around, he's not caged up anymore so he could hide anywhere in naruto's body...testicles for instance...I'm not sure Tobi would know to search those areas for Kuubi...

lol

ps
btw good theory of thread starting topic.

[MinatoXNaruto]

Originally Posted by kalmeast

Ah...or is it why Tobi is using only one Rinnegan for now so when it is rendered useless he could pull out the 2nd one? hmm

@jkd29663Tobi can't capture the kuubi now. Kurama is free to roam around, he's not caged up anymore so he could hide anywhere in naruto's body...testicles for instance...I'm not sure Tobi would know to search those areas for Kuubi...

Yeah that's what I was thinking because why would he just use one rinnegan from Nagato?

[Kyūbi no Yōko]

Izanagi + Izanami = CREATION OF ALL THINGS = > Sharingan -> RINNEGAN.

just a joke.

But it is actually stated that Izanagi might have been created from COAT.

I liked the theory though.

[SageKakashi]

I think Tobi kept his sharingan for his time space ninjutsu and materialize Jutsu.

Theory is good, again only time will tell.

[K3nsh!n]

I like the theory- but it has a MAJOR flaw!!
Izanagi-most likely Izanami as well-is based on Sage's "Creation of All Things".
This means that it is a Genjutsu!!
Rinnegan cannot cast even the simplest Genjutsu. So how can it cast the "Creation of All Things" which can be considered the Ultimate Genjutsu?

[kalmeast]

^ Battosai... Disagree...
The creation of all things requires the Yang chakra also which causes whatsoever genjutsu of the Yin chakra to materialize. Clearly the sharingan doesn't have that Yang ability, does it. unless that jutsu COAT is a culmination of both Sharingan and rinnegan.

[K3nsh!n]

^ Yes! It is the reason why Tobi has one rinnegan and one sharingan implanted!!
To use COAT you require the powers of both;
Sharingan: Illusions aka imagination
Rinnegan: Breathe life aka The Outer Path

I have claimed this before and will do so again:
The Sage didn't have the Rinnegan!
He had a Dojutsu that surpassed the Rinnegan-which granted him powers of both the Sharingan and the Rinnegan, dubbed as Sharinnegan aka the Juubi's eye aka "Rinnegan with 9 tomoe"
That is why I think Kishi didn't show the Sage's eyes...

[kalmeast]

^yea... i think so too...that his dojutsu surpassed that of the Rinnegan...just like chp 510 pg12 shows. although i do not reject the possibility of losing his eyesight as a result of that jutsu. I've been thinking another purpose of the rinnegan is to be able to bring the spiritual power of the sharingan and The Physical energy of the Senju into harmony for the COAT to happen cus the Yang half comes from the senju physical energy and life-force not an eye.

i've been thinking lately... do you think that all rinnegan have the same power interms of the paths... Do you think the sage's rinnegan had animal, human, petra, deva and so on?
Like the MS shouldn't each individual awakening of a dojutsu be unique to them... So far there's been only one rinnegan in the series, that which was awakened by Madara himself thus the same paths we see through nagato, ET madara and Tobi...

So should sasuke awaken his rinnegan, it may altogether be a different power...a more powerful one. just a thought.

[Jakropha]

Wait, if playing god only causes you to lose your eyesight

Why does Rinne Rebirth have such a big backlash to it?

[JashinSama]

Originally Posted by K3nsh!n

I like the theory- but it has a MAJOR flaw!!
Izanagi-most likely Izanami as well-is based on Sage's "Creation of All Things".
This means that it is a Genjutsu!!
Rinnegan cannot cast even the simplest Genjutsu. So how can it cast the "Creation of All Things" which can be considered the Ultimate Genjutsu?

So you're saying that Kurama is a Genjutsu?

You just contradicted yourself. Saying that Izanagi and Izanami are based off COAT, yet COAT is not a Genjutsu.

That would mean that COAT is a Genjutsu to you. Itachi already stated that the Ultimate Genjutsu is Izanami.

Sure, COAT may be what Izanagi is derived from, but it's only derived from COAT because COAT ALSO changes makes thought a reality.

Izanagi = Genjutsu

COAT = the ability to do create something out of virtually nothing.

Juubi + COAT = Nine Beasts

Nine Beasts + COAT = Juubi