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Old 04-13-2012, 08:25 AM   #21
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then why do so many Cubans come to US and complain about how terrible living in Cuba is and how they had nothing there. And I've never heard of anyone going to Cuba to get an education where do they go?? oh yeah the US or Europe.
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then why do so many Cubans come to US and complain about how terrible living in Cuba is and how they had nothing there. And I've never heard of anyone going to Cuba to get an education where do they go?? oh yeah the US or Europe.
Oh, you mean the traitors and criminals that are enemies of the state? Of course Cuba sends those away, there is no use in keeping them. And many people go to Cuba to education. Cuba is the center of knowledge for many Latin American youths.
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Yeah, no you're wrong, many people fled to US because Cuba is an awful place to live, and there lives were hard and awful there. And I'm not sure about the center for knowledge thing, but I'm positive more people come to the US for education than to Cuba.
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All these so-called "Free" health care systems really fall about into a two tier system. One for those with money(or influence) and one for those without.

You don't want to be stuck in the without money case, especially in Cuba; it's hard even to buy asprin there. In Canada, there are illegal clinics for those that pay. They aren't shut down because the be a massive uproar. If you really have a lot of money in Canada, you just come to the US to be treated.

The was an awesome video put out a couple years ago about what health care is really like in Canada if you only use the "free" one. I will see if I can scronge it up.
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Yeah, no you're wrong, many people fled to US because Cuba is an awful place to live, and there lives were hard and awful there. And I'm not sure about the center for knowledge thing, but I'm positive more people come to the US for education than to Cuba.
Cuba is a much better country than the United States. Tell me, how many homeless people are there in the United States? Hundreds of thousands. How many criminals? Millions. How many wars have the country started to sacrifice their own populance for no reason? Countless.

Cuba has no homeless people, they have the lowest crime rate on the American continent after Canada, and they have never begun a war. Because in Cuba you get everything you need for free, by the government.
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@ wooster:Thank You!! Does he really think that Cuba is a good place to live??
Edit: Cao America has only been in 15 or so wars, and we only started 5 or so,and most were for good reason, such as WWII, WWI, War of 1812, Revolutionary War, Gulf War, Iraq and Afghanistan (Disputed , but at first with good reason) we have a high population of homeless people because we are going through an economic crisis from adopting communist liberal philosophies, and no you do not get everthing you need from the government in cuba.

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Another fun fact, Cuba kills about 60% of it's babies in womb to keep it's child mortality rate down.
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@ wooster:Thank You!! Does he really think that Cuba is a good place to live??
Edit: Cao America has only been in 15 or so wars, and we only started 5 or so,and most were for good reason, such as WWII, WWI, War of 1812, Revolutionary War, Gulf War, Iraq and Afghanistan (Disputed , but at first with good reason) we have a high population of homeless people because we are going through an economic crisis from adopting communist liberal philosophies, and no you do not get everthing you need from the government in cuba.
If you are going to say anything more against Cuba or their system, then go there first. Live there for some time and ask around to see if the people there are happy. When you do that, then I will listen to your opinion. But don't talk down on a country you know nothing about. Because no Internet sources - ESPECIALLY NOT any western ones - will tell you the truth about Cuba.

Also, I believe this discussion is going off-topic.
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That's why about the the joys of what free heatlh care bring upon the populace.
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Yep, prenatal checkups. Sick babies cost money; can't have those around, so kill them instead.
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Just ignore that comment. No country does that.
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Cuba does. Ask the Cubans.
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Cuba does. Ask the Cubans.
I think you are confusing Cuba with North Korea. I know many people from Cuba, and they've told me everything there is to know about life there.
North Korea on the other hand has done a lot of... strange things...
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Yep, prenatal checkups. Sick babies cost money; can't have those around, so kill them instead.
=( They should just give them to me. >.>

And Ninja, yes they do. Our country even does that, they give the parents the option to abort when they find something wrong; a lot of people choose to abort children with the possibility of Downs. In point of fact, women in India high the highest rate of abortion in the MIDDLE CLASS, and what are they aborting you ask? Baby girls.
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I think you are confusing Cuba with North Korea. I know many people from Cuba, and they've told me everything there is to know about life there.
North Korea on the other hand has done a lot of... strange things...
Nope, Cuba.

In North Korean they just let there people starve to death.
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And Ninja, yes they do. Our country even does that, they give the parents the option to abort when they find something wrong; a lot of people choose to abort children with the possibility of Downs. In point of fact, women in India high the highest rate of abortion in the MIDDLE CLASS, and what are they aborting you ask? Baby girls.
Indeed, the standards are just a lot higher in Cuba, and as the state pays for heatth care. They get to decide.
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http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/25s3099.html

Scroll down to Table 2. Cuba is listed as 58.6% The average rate world wide is about 25%, which is about where the US and Sweden sit.
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@cao, Why don't you go live there?? I've met people from Cuba, and they say that it was miserable there, they left in the late 80's but I've heard stories who left in the 90's too and they said it was still bad. And doesn't China abort if you have more than 2 children?? or is that only if you cant support them. and in america, some people abort babies just because they don't want them.
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Not too much of a problem in China anymore, because women in the cities don't even have one child. China is looking at major population crash in 20 years.
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^ So, what do they do if you are going to have a child?? abortion, or do they just sterilize everyone
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