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Old 04-15-2012, 11:50 AM   #341
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No you didn't. Quote or it didn't happen. And they are nowhere near unquantifiable. If anything what Itachi has shown is unquantifiable, and I have already explained why in previous posts.
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He reacted to attacks from Bee and the Raikage, and intercepts them. He also kept up with Darui until he started using Raiton. Those are some impressive reaction feats.
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[technically posted before your quote]...his one speed feat is chapter 410 page 3......where B doesn't even bother uncrossing his arms until Suigetsu is literally right in his face, and then B casually blocked and disarmed him because the guy's so slow. I mean, compared to the average ninja, Suigetsu might have decent speed, but against people like Itachi? Not even close.
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Well. Considering they were just standing there and attacking, and we don't know when exactly Suigetsu started running in, thats not a very good feat.

How about Itachi? Almost blitzing Bee twice, and making bee look like a maggot in general. Dodging Bee's seven swords dance, which Suigetsu said himself he couldn't read at all. Casually reacting to a RM Naruto blitz... On top of that, he's a genius. He figured out how to destroy CT while being pulled into it. Your reaaaally underestimating Itachi. He's the most all around ninja in the entire manga.
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Although, I will add to that first part.....not only were they just standing there.........they actually started monologuing. And blocking an attack from someone who was just standing there talking isn't too impressive. Also, Suigetsu vs. Darui ended with Suigetsu stuck to the wall.......so yeah, once again he's not very impressive.
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Hm. Well. Bee WAS just screwing around. Thats not a very good feat either. Not to mention it was a pretty good distance, and IIRC, Suigetsu should have been closer to Sasuke than Bee was. I mean its not bad, but we're talking about Base Bee here. Not to mention Suigetsu had already started running for Sasuke once Bee knocked him down.

No no. Suigetsu intercepted A AFTER A ran up to him. I clearly remember them standing there saying "Even if you've seen through the illusion(Cee's), its too late" A said this with his fist in the air, standing completely still. Same with Darui.
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when Suigetsu attacked B, he was easily countered. When Itachi attacked B, he made a crow clone so quickly B didn't even notice and thought he had captured the real one.
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Except the part where that speed is completely unquantifiable because we have no idea how far away he was when he began moving to block the attacks.
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Go re-read the two Chapters Kumogakure VS Hawk and the first half of Sasuke's Dogma(maybe).
Right now. A was not moving when Suigetsu ran in. he was standing still with his fist raised. THEN he swung down. Sure it was from A, a fast character, but the attack itself was NOT FAST. A feat when someone runs in from an unknown distance at an unknown time is pretty much useless.
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Suigetsu was off panel that whole time. How do you know he didn't move?
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Speed) Really? Itachi outmatches him in SPEED? -_____- dude, Suigetsu has intercept attacks from Bee and the Raikage, as well as keep up with Darui until he started using Raiton. (which Itachi doesn't use) And Bee and the Raikage are two of the top speedsters in the manga. I'm no Suigetsu fan, but saying that isn't impressive is downright downplaying Suigetsu.
It's basic physics; to get speed, you need 2 things: distance and time. The distance in the feats you are using are completely unknown. As far as time, it's been shown that neither B nor A were going at full speed. Therefore, the feats you are trying to use are unquantifiable. So do you see how just repeating the exact same feats that we already proved were completely unquantifiable isn't exactly helping you any? And also please notice that in those quotes, feats that actually were quantifiable were provided and they ended with Suigetsu being outmatched in speed by people slower than Itachi every time.
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:27 PM   #342
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Old 04-15-2012, 12:30 PM   #343
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Well since he can't win a debate with other people's posts, I think it's over. Yes, I called you out on it. :P
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