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Old 05-17-2012, 10:45 AM   #1
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Old 05-17-2012, 12:00 PM   #2
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Hmmm,... Do Konan, Itachi, and Pain count as Akatsuki even though in the end they betrayed Tobi?!!
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Itachi Totsuka stabs while the rest of Akatsuki are occupying Madara by being brutally murdered by him.
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Easy win for Akatsuki another overestimation of Madara's skill if this was made with the mindset that this would be a good fight. If I have to give an in depth strategy I will but for now I'll just go with a general way for this to be an easy win.

Deidara takes to the sky preparing some of his more powerful bombs, Konan joins him. Sasori summons Third Kazekage and begins to surround Madara with Iron Sand. Kisame goes underground with Samehada. Kakuzu sends some of his wires underground while releasing his wind and fire masks. Itachi parries Madara's Susano'o with his own. Animal Path uses all of her summons to help out, the other five paths of pain take naps. Madara gets completely overwhelmed.
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What's stopping izanami? Just curious.
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Pain with 9 other Akatsuki members? Gedo Maza?
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Does meteor count here?

or that forest...Its not a complete stomp from akatsuki. Madara could still have some chance.


(Not a madara fanboy don't worry I just don't want my thread end so fast lol T_T)
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If it were a complete stomp for Akatsuki they could win without taking any damage. They can't. But they still win because Itachi Totsuka stabs him while he's busy murderizing the other members.
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Akatsuki would win.
Edo Madara or not, it doesn't matter..

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Easy win for Akatsuki another overestimation of Madara's skill if this was made with the mindset that this would be a good fight.

Madara gets completely overwhelmed.
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Default Re: All Akatsuki w/o Tobi VS madara

Even without Itachi, Madara would lose no questions asked.
The whole Akatsuki is far to overwhelming for ANY ninja alone, besides possibly SO6P, but he has no feats.
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Default Re: All Akatsuki w/o Tobi VS madara

Itachi makes it overkill.
Yahiko and Nagato cry an emo river.
Itachi takes a hefty crap on Madara.

The only thing that might break Susano'o is the meteor.
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itachis not overkill. only reason hes here helping is totsuka sealing which can already be accomplished more easily by nagatos human path.

third kazekage iron sand is a nigh unbreakable defence. sasori will be able to counter mokutons, as will kakuzu and nagato.
remember theres still chibaku tensei, gedo mazo, unkillable cerberus summon, wind release gale palm, rinne tensei to revive any dead akatsukis, ST and BT. remember madara was counting on nagato being as strong as he is but doesnt know nagato has mastered rinnegans full arsenal.
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There is no sealing jutsu for the akaskui so Madara wins WITH PERFECT SUSANOO
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totsuka, soul removal
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its useless against Madara's regenaration abilities or Madara's perfect susanoo.


Plus how would Itachi know which one is the real one. Madara can make all of his wood clones use susanoo. that would take out all ot the akasuki except for Itachi and Pain.

Itachi will soon be overwhelmed then killed.

Pain does not have any sealing jutsu and then gets tired and dies
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its useless against Madara's regenaration abilities or Madara's perfect susanoo.


Plus how would Itachi know which one is the real one. Madara can make all of his wood clones use susanoo. that would take out all ot the akasuki except for Itachi and Pain.

Itachi will soon be overwhelmed then killed.

Pain does not have any sealing jutsu and then gets tired and dies
Wow, I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked yet.

Umm you think that all the Akatsuki would die by those clones, certainly not. Kakuzu just merges with his fire and wind masks while his lightning and water masks guard against his blind spots. Madara has no way of getting close to him and those wires can dig right into Susano'o. Deidara will do fine against those clones he can just fly around and evade like Onoki was doing then he can blow them up from long range. Sasori just has to mix tactics using both his main body and the Third Kazekage at the same time to fight. The reason A and Gaara got defeated were because they got distracted mid battle and worried about Mei and Tsunade. Akatsuki are much more merciless in combat.

Also, unlike the Kage team which were just a rag tag group of high class shinobi from different villages. The Akatsuki have been travelling in pairs for years, they know each other's abilities fairly well.

Like everyone else in this thread has said too many abilities, too much skill, too many different tactics for one shinobi to keep up with. These ninja are all S class. And except for Hidan they are pretty much mid-tier S class too, not lower tier like Mei and Tsunade.

I'll just go through the techniques that I could see incapacitating or countering Madara right now.

Nanobombs: virtually no defense for them, breaks him into pieces so small by the time he can regenerate Itachi has been waiting there with his Totsuka Sword

Water Dome: even if he has regen. he still follows normal physiology, if he can't breathe he drowns, on top of that you have Kisame merged with Samehada and swimming around the dome at high speed eating Susano'o's chakra and cutting Madara to pieces

Giant Shark Bullet: the ideal technique for countering Madara's Perfect Susano'o

Human Path: if Nagato manages to grab Madara's actual body he just sucks the soul out and ends the fight

Preta Path: this essentially makes every attack Madara's used so far except Hashirama's techniques and genjutsu, useless

Tsukuyomi: Madara goes night night

Sasori's Poison: Again Madara follows normal human physiology, even if poison doesn't kill him it can still paralyze him

Konan's Paper Bombs (w/ prep): Give Konan long enough on the battlefield and she'll have enough paper bombs to destroy Susano'o and damage Madara enough that it slows his regen. and Itachi or Nagato can seal him

Kakuzu's wires: Kakuzu's already a beast in the strength department if he burrows his wires underground or gets them through Susano'o he can dig them into Madara's skin and forcibly restrain him, like a more powerful version of Shadow Sewing.

Zetsu spores: I know it'd seem like Zetsu would be useless in this fight but not only can he serve as a well timed substitute to fool Madara into thinking an enemy is dead, but if he lands his spores on Madara he can suck away chakra and then crawl to his comrades and heal them.

On top of all of this if any enemy gets downed as long as Nagato is alive he can just walk over to them and use Naraka Path to bring them back to life.
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It all depends on if they r in. Character or bloodlusted the akaskui can win but madara would b hard to seal
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is orochimaru and hidan included in this
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It all depends on if they r in. Character or bloodlusted the akaskui can win but madara would b hard to seal
Well of course Madara would be hard to seal, but in character Madara would be ranting about how beneath him all those shinobi are before he gets owned by all their techniques lol.
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Akatsuki would win.
Edo Madara or not, it doesn't matter..


I agree.
Edo madara will win.its simple becuse he is in his prime so he knows all jutsu belonging to uchhiha.he also has a power of 1st hokage.tobtsuka blade need less distance to penetrate madara and sel him.which is not possible in his current state..
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