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Old 02-18-2012, 05:15 PM   #1
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Default Why Sasuke sucks.

Okay, I'm am really getting tired of people overestimating Sasuke. He is literally the most wanked character in the whole series. It's time to put an end to this.

People think his MS is so great that it would take out like 90% of the Narutoverse, when in truth he wouldn't even be able to get past the first 10%.

His TSUKUYOMI. First of all let's face it, Sasuke is the one of the worst genjutsu users in the manga. Anyone could break it as if it was a perfectly regular genjutsu. Like how Naruto tried to break Itachi's genjutsu, but even easier. We've all seen how easily Danzo broke it. It's that much weaker than Itachi's. Second of all, it does not work on people who has knowledge of the technique. They could very simply avoid contact with his eyes. Not that hard.

His AMATERASU. This really makes me sick. People are saying "this is instant" when the Raikage was able to dodge it, and "this is instant, there is no way the target will be able to react" when in fact this is pure BS. Every time he uses the technique, his eye is bleeding profusely. This basically gives the technique away, and tells the target what Sasuke is trying to do. Just throw a piece of paper and front of you, and that will block it for you. In this case, a Shuriken or Kunai will do the trick. There's also some idiotic strategy someone made up that, if someone tries to avoid eye contact with Sasuke in order to avoid Tsukuyomi, he can use Amaterasu since the target isn't looking at Sasuke. This is, of course, WRONG. As seen when Kakashi, Naruto, Sakura, and Chiyo tried not to look at Itachi's eyes, they knew when Itachi turned it off, and when he turned it on. And after that, they started looking at Itachi's eyes again. So this would go the same for Sasuke. Naturally, neither Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu would work. Especially since more than half of the Narutoverse has knowledge of MS in general anyway.

His SUSANOO. This is the most overrated piece of crap I've ever seen. People "this" the ultimate defense that surpasses any other defense ever made, when in fact many people forget that Susanoo has so many side effects on the user. One, they start going blind after overuse of the technique, and two, their chakra depletes very rapidly during usage. Durability is useless if you are feeling pain in every cell in your body, as Sasuke described it in like the third time he used it. As for offense, gaining some far distance against Susanoo will give it trouble landing hits. This also goes perfectly with Itachi's Susanoo and it's Totsuka Sword. Arrows? dodged. Especially when you can react to them, like Danzo and Kakashi did without much effort.

The Sharingan has been debunked in this thread: http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107470

His SPEED. The second overrated thing about Sasuke. Let's face it, aside from fodders, Sasuke cannot blitz anyone in the Narutoverse. Someone as slow as Deidara was able to both react to him, and dodge him. And that was twice in a row, too. And Deidara is that same guy who gave in to an angry Naruto punch, when he couldn't even react to that. And he's supposed to be slower than Sasuke, according to the fanboys. Sasuke isn't blitzing anyone who could not be touched by KN0 Naruto. This includes the Sound 4, because Kidomaru dodged Naruto Rasengan from behind, IIRC.


KIRIN. He can only use this technique once, and ever since the Itachi fight, he cannot use it any more. This is because he needs Great Dragon Flames for it, which he does not have anymore due to the loss of his curse mark. Yes, he needs CS2 because he has never done Great Dragon Flames in base. And Amaterasu had to help in the making of the weather changing conditions, and Amaterasu alone is not going to be able to accomplish this feat. Taka Sasuke has absolutely nothing to change the weather with. Oh and by the way, his fire jutsu is easily avoided by most of the verse since even PTS Naruto was able to dodge the gigantic ones.


His Chidori is just a simple punch. Just grab his arm and it is pathetically countered. Itachi and Kakashi were able to do it.




In the end, the precious "Sasuke" is nowhere near haxxed, and definitely nowhere near Kage level. Especially since he got his ass kicked in every fight he has been in in Shippuden. Even after his training with Orochimaru -_____-

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Old 02-18-2012, 05:27 PM   #2
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Default Re: Why Sasuke sucks.

He can still defeat over 90% of the verse. If you don't agree make a list of how many people he can kill.
I say: Naruto(sm) (RM) Possibles: Jiraiya(SM)
Itachi Kisame
Pain/Nagato A
Danzo Kakashi(if he kamui's his head off)
Muu Gated Guy
Onoki
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Sage of 6 Paths
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3rd Raikage(probably)
Killer Bee

I might have forgot some people

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Old 02-18-2012, 05:39 PM   #3
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He can still defeat over 90% of the verse. If you don't agree make a list of how many people he can kill.
I say: Naruto(sm) (RM) Possibles: Jiraiya(SM)
Itachi Kisame
Pain/Nagato A
Danzo Kakashi(if he kamui's his head off)
Muu Gated Guy
Onoki
Madara
Sage of 6 Paths
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3rd Raikage(probably)
Killer Bee
I take it that's your list of how many people can beat Sasuke. (with that Kakashi statement)

Here's my list of how many people Sasuke can beat:
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NO ONE EXCEPT FODDERS, KONOHAMARU AND HIS TEAM, KURENAI AND KARIN
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With the power of Kishimoto's insane lust for him Sasuke can beat omnipotents.
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Don't know if I should laugh or just ignore?
why would you ignore it? He's not exactly wrong

Sasuke rightly would have been murdered easily by about 70-80% of the people he fought in the post time skip universe
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Deidara - Sorry but that was a legit one on one fight. Matter of fact I say this is Sasuke's most skilled fight.

Itachi - Staged, yes, but still Sasuke broke out of Tsukuyomi and was able to pulled off his most powerful technique. So yes he showed skilled here.

Bee - Ok, but Bee had the 8 on his side to. An inexperience Sasuke who just gain a MS taking on the 2nd most powerful biju host, head on. Live & Learn.

A - Yep he would have lost, but he did manage to react and dodge a head on strike from A, Cost A an body part, and would have cost A his leg if Gaara wouldn't have interfered. So yes he would have died but A would have been useless after the fight.

Gaara and Crew. - Very important note: Sasuke shows he has a great deal of stamina through out this whole scene. His incomplete Susanoo took on a handful attacks.

Mei - Mind you Sasuke wasn't as close to being 100% but he was still managing to bring forth Susanoo bones.

Onoki - Come on, by the time ANYONE would have reached him the result would have been the same.

Danzo - Controversy - Yes. Skill - Yes. - Cheat - Danzo cheated to. Sasuke showed a Summon, upgraded his Susanoo, Amateratsu, a weak genjutsu twice, and a Chidori spear. Also keep in mind he still wasn't 100%. Yes Karin healed him, but he wasn't healed fully. Danzo had the advantage in this fight.

Kakashi - His stamina once again was shown, because he fired a Susanoo arrow at kakashi even though he just got out of a fight.

Naruto - Again stamina & blind, he still pulled off a Chidori.

I'm sorry but really IMO Sasuke's stamina is very very under rated. If you really want to get down to the nitty gritty we can say the damn same thing about Naruto fights post time skip....

Kakazu - Kakashi did most of the work. All Naruto did was deliver the game ending blow.

Pain - The fact that Pain had to keep him alive because of the Kyubi gave him a great amount of luck. Also Pa in his ear helped a lot. Him coming there with 3 summons also helped. Oh and him having two clones back in frog land helped. Kyuubi helped. SMH

His current fight - Bee is helping him. Kakashi & Gai is helping him. Kyubi being a Tsundere helped. Son helped.

So once again I ask whats your point?
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Deidara - Sorry but that was a legit one on one fight. Matter of fact I say this is Sasuke's most skilled fight.

Itachi - Staged, yes, but still Sasuke broke out of Tsukuyomi and was able to pulled off his most powerful technique. So yes he showed skilled here.

Bee - Ok, but Bee had the 8 on his side to. An inexperience Sasuke who just gain a MS taking on the 2nd most powerful biju host, head on. Live & Learn.

A - Yep he would have lost, but he did manage to react and dodge a head on strike from A, Cost A an body part, and would have cost A his leg if Gaara wouldn't have interfered. So yes he would have died but A would have been useless after the fight.

Gaara and Crew. - Very important note: Sasuke shows he has a great deal of stamina through out this whole scene. His incomplete Susanoo took on a handful attacks.

Mei - Mind you Sasuke wasn't as close to being 100% but he was still managing to bring forth Susanoo bones.

Onoki - Come on, by the time ANYONE would have reached him the result would have been the same.

Danzo - Controversy - Yes. Skill - Yes. - Cheat - Danzo cheated to. Sasuke showed a Summon, upgraded his Susanoo, Amateratsu, a weak genjutsu twice, and a Chidori spear. Also keep in mind he still wasn't 100%. Yes Karin healed him, but he wasn't healed fully. Danzo had the advantage in this fight.

Kakashi - His stamina once again was shown, because he fired a Susanoo arrow at kakashi even though he just got out of a fight.

Naruto - Again stamina & blind, he still pulled off a Chidori.

I'm sorry but really IMO Sasuke's stamina is very very under rated. If you really want to get down to the nitty gritty we can say the damn same thing about Naruto fights post time skip....

Kakazu - Kakashi did most of the work. All Naruto did was deliver the game ending blow.

Pain - The fact that Pain had to keep him alive because of the Kyubi gave him a great amount of luck. Also Pa in his ear helped a lot. Him coming there with 3 summons also helped. Oh and him having two clones back in frog land helped. Kyuubi helped. SMH

His current fight - Bee is helping him. Kakashi & Gai is helping him. Kyubi being a Tsundere helped. Son helped.

So once again I ask whats your point?
Deidara - No, it was not. The real result was a tie. It was a tie because, Deidara committed suicide and Sasuke would be caught in the blast. But due to Kishi's lending him the legendary powers of PnJ, Suigetsu summoned Manda and rescued Sasuke.

Itachi - Sasuke never broke his Tsukuyomi. Even Madara says this. He says that he never saw through any of his illusions. Every illusion casted, he accepted. Even Sasuke realizes it. Also, Itachi not only let him pull it off, but he helped him by putting Amaterasu flames out there which helped prepped it.

Bee - Not to mention that without his team he would be roflstomped horribly.

A - There are multiple people that can react to him. Suigetsu and Jugo did it too, as well as Tobi without much difficulty. Also notice that after the fight he got his arm back, which he would've gotten his leg back to if he sacrificed it for killing Sasuke. But Kishi's PnJ powers come to the rescue once again.

Gaara and Crew - They launched their weakest attacks at Sasuke. Gaara just threw sand bullets. Kankuro threw Poison Bombs. Darui used a technioque that is featless, and even then he has even more powerful techniques. Temari launched a wind attack. Let's face it, they have waaay more powerful moves than those they used, and if they used them then Sasuke wouldn't be having a very good time.

Mei - While feeling "pain in every cell in his body."

Onoki - Glad you agree.

Danzo - Did not use Shunsui's Eye, and also had an Izanagi left after being stabbed and before he got healed.

Kakashi - After being healed by Karin.

Naruto - After being healed by Karin.

Sasuke's stamina is very very overrated, along with other stuff involving him.

Kakuzu - When Kakashi could've simply Kamui'd away his head.

Pain - Really that second Rasenshuriken in the fight should've ended it, because one of the paths were killed and revived.

Current fight - He's getting a new power up, what do you expect?

The point is, Sasuke cannot win a single fight without having even a slight handicap. That, and he is a very wanked character. That, and he is the worst thing to happen in Naruto.
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not true at all not even remotely so..Sasuke had a retcon mid fight that saved him...then magically an element jobbed...and then all of a sudden he developed super speed he never showcased ever again

the Deidera fight was horrible and the fans who lapped it up gave me an entire year of stupidity and endless "durr hurr Sasuke can Beat Iron fist and Spiderman' threads

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Itachi - Staged, yes, but still Sasuke broke out of Tsukuyomi and was able to pulled off his most powerful technique. So yes he showed skilled here.
because of his "darkness" because of his "hatred" and nothing else..another asspull writer fiat saves Sasuke
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Bee - Ok, but Bee had the 8 on his side to. An inexperience Sasuke who just gain a MS taking on the 2nd most powerful biju host, head on. Live & Learn.
Sasuke would have lost that fight in a second flat if not for..again author biased

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A - Yep he would have lost, but he did manage to react and dodge a head on strike from A, Cost A an body part, and would have cost A his leg if Gaara wouldn't have interfered. So yes he would have died but A would have been useless after the fight.
A lost his own arm because of his own idiocy and would have easily stomped him

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Gaara and Crew. - Very important note: Sasuke shows he has a great deal of stamina through out this whole scene. His incomplete Susanoo took on a handful attacks.
Sasuke has Stamina? he was on the verge of dying bleeding internally and going blind from abusing that crap and that was with outside interference backing him u[

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Mei - Mind you Sasuke wasn't as close to being 100% but he was still managing to bring forth Susanoo bones.
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Onoki - Come on, by the time ANYONE would have reached him the result would have been the same
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even if he was refreshed healed and at his best Oonoki would utterly demolish Sasuke

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Danzo - Controversy - Yes. Skill - Yes. - Cheat - Danzo cheated to. Sasuke showed a Summon, upgraded his Susanoo, Amateratsu, a weak genjutsu twice, and a Chidori spear. Also keep in mind he still wasn't 100%. Yes Karin healed him, but he wasn't healed fully. Danzo had the advantage in this fight.
Sasuke had no business winning that fight..it just proves Kishi has a special thing for Sasuke

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Kakashi - His stamina once again was shown, because he fired a Susanoo arrow at kakashi even though he just got out of a fight.
Uchiha have no stamina

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lul no Naruto let him win

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So once again I ask whats your point?
that Uchiha fans are sub human? That they are the bane of all vs debate sections? that those of us who have dedicated years shutting down their opinions and stopping the spread of their wank are essentially sick and tired of it?

that Sasuke really is horrible?
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Deidara - Sorry but that was a legit one on one fight. Matter of fact I say this is Sasuke's most skilled fight.
Sure, if you discount the fact that during the fight Sasuke magically gained x-ray vision, microscopic vision, the ability to distinguish chakra by color and the ability to perform high level chakra costly jutsus while completely out of chakra to escape an explosion that went off just a few feet away. After it had already gone off. And he stared at it for awhile. All four of which abilities he has not since displayed.
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What the hell? I lol'd at this Topic.

Dis-regarding Sasuke's speed? Seriously? Remember when Naruto first met up with him? He was lightning fast even to Yamato. That was like 60% compared to Taka Sasuke.

His stamina is at a decent level, not forgetting he is only 16 and doesn't have a tailed beast inside him like Naruto.

His fight against Deidara was legit, blowing yourself up is just stupid, Sasuke wasn't risking anything because he needed to stay alive for Itachi.

His fight against Danzo was pretty bad but it was gay both sides. Sasuke spammed Susano'o and Danzo had 10 lives.

Sasuke vs Killer Bee- Again Bee has way more experience and transformed into the eight tails for Christ sake, he had limitless chakra to top it off.

Sasuke is a great Character, dissappointed in his spamming of Susano'o lately though.

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What the hell? I lol'd at this Topic.

Dis-regarding Sasuke's speed? Seriously? Remember when Naruto first met up with him? He was lightning fast even to Yamato. That was like 60% skill compared to Taka Sasuke.

His stamina is at a decent level, not forgetting he is only 16 and doesn't have a tailed beast inside him like Naruto.

His fight against Deidara was legit, blowing yourself up is just stupid, Sasuke was 'at risking anything because he needed to stay alive for Itachi.

His fight against Danzo was pretty bad but it was gay both sides. Sasuke spammed Susano'o and Danzo had 10 lives.

Sasuke vs Killer Bee- Again Bee has way more experience and transformed into the eight tails for Christ sake, he had limitless chakra to top it off.

Sasuke is a great Character, diss appointed in his spamming of Susano'o lately though.
Yeah never mind the fact that Sai was able to do the same thing and stopped his attack before he was even able to react.

I guess, just nowhere near "high tier stamina"

That fight's true result was a tie, because the only reason why Sasuke wasn't caught in the explosion was because Suigetsu saved him by summoning Manda.

Also at the end Danzo had an Izanagi eye left, and he was not using Shunsui's Eye.

Sasuke trained with a guy who was immortal, and still couldn't have the slightest hope of having a chance against Bee. Also, thanks for reminding me that I gotta thank Bee for demonstrating that the Sharingan is not an auto dodge jutsu.
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Dis-regarding Sasuke's speed? Seriously? Remember when Naruto first met up with him? He was lightning fast even to Yamato.
no one in Naruto is as fast as lightning. Top tiers are barely hypersonic. Did Yamato do anything impressive so we can say that he's fast?

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based on what?

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His stamina is at a decent level, not forgetting he is only 16 and doesn't have a tailed beast inside him like Naruto.
yeah it's decent for mid tier but Sasuke never showed anything close to suggest that he has top tier's stamina


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Sasuke needed Suigetsu's help to survive

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Danzo wasn't impressive at all. He's a fodder without Izanagi

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Only Sasuke basically died twice in this fight. He survived due to Karin's and Jugo's help.
Base Bee stomped Sasuke in 1 on 1 fight

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no - limits fallacy. Top tier's stamina /=/ limitless stamina, Bee's stamina is just leagues above Sasuke's, like I said Sasuke has decent stamina for a mid tier

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So you guys are mad at Sasuke because he had a fail safe? He came in that fight prepared and the result was him winning. Stop coming up with excuses. See this is what I hate about our BG, you guys give no respect. Sure Sasuke had a Kishi push but what character didn't? Naruto had one, Kakashi one, Gaara had one, Darui had one, Shikamaru & Co. had one, & Bee had one.

Point is, Sasuke has skill and your downplaying his techniques to the point where your saying almost anyone can beat him which is crap.
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So you guys are mad at Sasuke because he had a fail safe? He came in that fight prepared and the result was him winning. Stop coming up with excuses. See this is what I hate about our BG, you guys give no respect. Sure Sasuke had a Kishi push but what character didn't? Naruto had one, Kakashi one, Gaara had one, Darui had one, Shikamaru & Co. had one, & Bee had one.

Point is, Sasuke has skill and your downplaying his techniques to the point where your saying almost anyone can beat him which is crap.
That's what they all say. All who "remember" (clearly not specifically) what fights Sasuke's been through, look at the end results, and claim Sasuke is superior to all of his opponents in every way without even looking at the actual fight. And those characters actually have some fair debate while in every Sasuke debate I see posts like "SASUKE'S JUTSU ARE UNSTOPPABLE' or "SASUKE WINS WITH KIRIN" or "SASUKE WINS AND ANY ATTEMPT TO SAY OTHERWISE IS WANK" seriously I'm tired of seeing posts like that.

You wanna talk about respect and downplaying? Well then, what about other characters like Gaara, Neji, Hinata and Sakura who are downplayed to no end? The truth is, people will downplay characters like these due to not being a main character and only a supporting character.
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The people you named have severe lack of feats with the exception of Gaara. Like it or not but Sasuke has a great amount of feats that other characters can't top.
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Speed: You're gonna talk like Sasuke is slow. Sasuke is easily one of the fastest characters in the series. He was managing to move around A and keep out of his range, and A had base reflexes that were on Minato's level. It took him going V2 to land a single hit on Sasuke.

Deidara was at a loss for how to counter his speed. Even as a kid, with no real training, he matched Haku's speed who had been training with Zabubza for years. He learned Rock Lee's speed in 3 weeks, and when the time-skip started, he was faster than anyone on Team Yamato by far. Anyone's speed looks crappy next to Raiton A, but Sasuke managed to survive it when A had every intention to destroy him. Sure A would have one that fought, but if Sasuke had full Susanoo and there had been no interference from Darui or Gaara or anyone else, it might have been different. Either way if Sasuke died, A would have been a giant Amaterasu flame.

Stamina: No one can doubt his stamina. An average day in the life of Sasuke.
Sasuke fights and destroys 100 stamina.
Sasuke fights and injures the Raikage.
Sasuke fights Gaara and other Jonin shinobi.
Sasuke fights Mei and managed to defend against her attack for a bit.
Sasuke gets jumped by Onoki.
Sasuke gets saved by Tobi for a few minutes, quick respite.
Sasuke fights Danzo, who has been collecting 1ups for years.
Sasuke wins thanks to a friend he can bite.
Sasuke gets attacked by Kakashi. Forms a Susanoo. Arrows him.
Sasuke gets attacked by Sakura, reacts.
Sasuke gets attacked by Naruto, matches his Rasengan with his Chidori.


Like... what??? That's stamina.


Genjutsu: Lacking sure, but when you compare it to Itachi and Shisui, who wouldn't be? He still had the Genjutsu prowess to overpower and reverse Orochimaru's ritual at 16. Orochimaru, a Kage-level shinobi who took on Hiruzen. His resistance is his best feat. Call it zomg anger plot, but he did it. Cry about it.

Ninjutsu: Probably the biggest variety of Ninjutsu in the series.
Ridiculous fire style, strong enough to melt mountainsides like against part 1 Naruto, and heat the atmosphere to the point of using Kirin.

Then there's Kirin, which managed to topple the mountain the Uchiha hideout was on and took Itachi's full Susanoo to block.

He has Amaterasu and can manipulate the shape and trajectory of the flames, making him even better than his brother, and the only one to dodge that is A after he has already seen the move in action and has his Raiton armor completely up.

A chidori spear which can reach flying opponents, opponenta 50 meters away, or even mow down a group of opponents. Like for serious, it's a bar of pure electricity with the capabilities to pierce Orochimaru's heart before he can even react, and slice through Hachibi's tails.

He can fly if he would just use that Hawk more.

Oh. There's also that Susanoo thing. A defense that has kept him alive from 3 Kages now. It also shoots arrows faster than anything any Shinobi alive can react to without a special trick like Mokuton or Kamui. He can also keep his Susanoo up for loooong periods of time, and now that it's cloaked and armored and holding giant Amaterasu balls in his hand like it's a casual addition to his repartee, it's even better.

Intelligence: You say author wank, but Kishi has been saying Sasuke was a genius since the beginning. Back when Kakashi said it, Guy said it, Lee said it, Hiruzen said it, the proctor said it, Orochimaru said it, Kabuto said it, and this was in Part 1. Sasuke has just had a wider variety of teacher than anyone, his skills are unorthodox. Think about it, his first teacher was his father. Then the academy. Then came Kakashi. Then a drastic change to Orochimaru. Then he learned things from Itachi. Now he has Tobi guiding him to new things. Meaning he has learned from all these amazing, high-tier Shinobi and progressed the style of all of them into his own.

He managed to fool Danzo, and I'm convinced Danzo's the smartest opponent he ever fought. Whether or not Kirin cured him, or Tobi got him away from the self-destruction, he fooled Danzo on his own.


But whatever. People say Author Wank because it's a character they don't like. But Naruto is a show about Author Wank. Wank gave Kakashi the Kamui after he was rendered obsolete by Akatsuki members. Wank helped Naruto win every fight he was in. Like really Naruto, you dug a hole with your clone against Neji? Really? This is a show about wank. Get used to it. Expect Kishi to wank him even MORE to make these last battles more entertaining, and personally, I can't wait to see.
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So you guys are mad at Sasuke because he had a fail safe?
Failsafe and Deus Ex Machina are not the same thing.

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With blatant help from Kishimoto that goes way beyond a simple "push". Sasuke beating Naruto at the VotE was a simple push. Gaara surviving against Kimimaro was a simple push.

Sasuke vs Deidara was horse piss from start to finish.

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I extend the same advice to you.

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To get respect be worth respecting. Sasuke is not worth respecting. So she gets no respect.

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See above.
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Sasuke isn't my fav character but ffs he is far from weak.

TBC said it for the most part.

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I love how you ignore the Chidori Variants and just how much power is behind it.
You do know Chidori Stream was so intense that it shredded Yamato's Mokuton?
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