Killer Bee vs Danzo

[Shikamaru Nara]

Originally Posted by Zatamizu Yougan

Killer Bee still wins this without Danzo using Shisui's eye regardless if my post was lame or not.

On the contrary. I provided feats, and you're spitting out your fanboy wank dude.

[Wooster]

Baku gets KB no matter what mode he is in. If one paid attention to the Sasuke battle, Susano'o had to dig into the ground to prevent itself from being sucked into Baku. Either KB does the same, which opens him up to Danzo Susano'o busting attacks, or he gets sucked in.

Danzo also can speed blitz Sasuke just using his sharingan, so speed is not a problem for Danzo. If KB doesn't transform, Danzo vaccum style easily keep KB at a distance, and he wins through attrition. KB swordstlye only matters if you are stupid enough like Sasuke was and try to battle him at his strength.

No unsealing of Danzo's arm is needed. He wins regardless.

[TheBlackChidori]

How do you think Samehada would react to Baku's wind?

[Wooster]

It is suction. So I have no friggin clue.
Isn't it just wind? Thus, Samehada should do nothing

[TheBlackChidori]

Buuuuuuuut he would absorb Danzo's attack from behind. If It was full-hachibi, he could shoot a menacing ball at Baku. But he's not.

[Wooster]

If he was full Hachibi, Samehada is inoperative at least we have never seen it in use when KB is full form. When he shoots his meancing ball, Danzo fillets him from behind.

In normal form KB is immobile and Danzo attacks from behind. Thus, KB gets hit. If KB is cut in half, there will be nothing for Samehada to heal like he did with Kisame. Regardless, that should be enough to get KB airborne and then Baku swallows KB and Samehada whole.

[TheBlackChidori]

Quite.

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by Wooster

Baku gets KB no matter what mode he is in. If one paid attention to the Sasuke battle, Susano'o had to dig into the ground to prevent itself from being sucked into Baku. Either KB does the same, which opens him up to Danzo Susano'o busting attacks, or he gets sucked in.

More like KB lariats Baku even with the total vaccum.


Also you aren't seriouisly saying Hachibi gets sucked in to @bolded.

Danzo also can speed blitz Sasuke just using his sharingan

Spoiler:

If KB doesn't transform, Danzo vaccum style easily keep KB at a distance, and he wins through attrition.

Attrition is not something Danzo has.

No unsealing of Danzo's arm is needed. He wins regardless.

For his safety it should be unsealed unless he got his eye available. But the OP never said no Eye.

[Wooster]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

More like KB lariats Baku even with the total vaccum.


Also you aren't seriouisly saying Hachibi gets sucked in to @bolded.

Spoiler:

Attrition is not something Danzo has.



For his safety it should be unsealed unless he got his eye available. But the OP never said no Eye.

Hard for KB to do when he is airborne. You know, Newton's Second Law and all that.

Funny, that almost looks like Sasuke's face when Danzo completely disappeared in front of Sasuke's chidori.

Death by a thousand wind cuts.

Indeed, nothing said about Danzo's eye, but also nothing about Danzo unsealing his arm. When is he going to do that agasint KB? I am not going lazy route and saying Danzo uses Shisui's eye to make KB throw away Samehada before the Hachibi can wake him up. If Hachibi even notices that is.

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by Wooster

Hard for KB to do when he is airborne. You know, Newton's Second Law and all that.

Regardless being airborne or not.

He is being sucked into him. Unless KB is virtual statue immobilized suddenly.

Funny, that almost looks like Sasuke's face when Danzo completely disappeared in front of Sasuke's chidori.

Funny, that Danzo never attempted to try that earlier or actually attack Sasuke when he did that.

Death by a thousand wind cuts.

If it hits him. It also depends on him being in different forms too such as V1 or V2.

Indeed, nothing said about Danzo's eye, but also nothing about Danzo unsealing his arm. When is he going to do that agasint KB? I am not going lazy route and saying Danzo uses Shisui's eye to make KB throw away Samehada before the Hachibi can wake him up. If Hachibi even notices that is.

Danzo is not exactly best of shape to fight Base KB without his eye. He could try though.

[Wooster]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

Regardless being airborne or not.

He is being sucked into him. Unless KB is virtual statue immobilized suddenly.



Funny, that Danzo never attempted to try that earlier or actually attack Sasuke when he did that.



If it hits him. It also depends on him being in different forms too such as V1 or V2.



Danzo is not exactly best of shape to fight Base KB without his eye. He could try though.

Yes, KB is airborne, meaning he can't generate any force in any direction.

Funny that it happened right after Danzo activated his sharingan. One might almost think, that has something to do with it. Just like when Danzo activated Shisui's eye to blow a few dozen fodder out of the water. Hard to attack when you are without an arm and nearly dead.

Danzo, blew though Susano'o. I don't think it really does. But without Izanagi, without Baku, and without super special genjutsu, it might be that Danzo could not win. But as long as Danzo's chakra lasts, KB really can't get close to Danzo, vacuum sphere does require evasion action, Sasuke even avoided it. And Vacuum blade protects Danzo in all directions.

Completely without his eye no, but if he can use it as he did against the fodder and Sasuke at the end, that should at least give Danzo enough speed to keep up.

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by Wooster

Yes, KB is airborne, meaning he can't generate any force in any direction.

He is still being sucked in.

Funny that it happened right after Danzo activated his sharingan. One might almost think, that has something to do with it. Just like when Danzo activated Shisui's eye to blow a few dozen fodder out of the water. Hard to attack when you are without an arm and nearly dead.

Funny that Danzo never attempted to blitz Sasuke regardless.
Sharingan gives you boosted pseudo Precog/prediction. Not enhanced reflexes or anything.

Danzo had already had some good reaction even without regardless but he isn't a speedster on Sasuke's level.

Danzo, blew though Susano'o. I don't think it really does. But without Izanagi, without Baku, and without super special genjutsu, it might be that Danzo could not win. But as long as Danzo's chakra lasts, KB really can't get close to Danzo, vacuum sphere does require evasion action, Sasuke even avoided it. And Vacuum blade protects Danzo in all directions.

V2 is up for grabs I supppose. Then again I recall in a Sasori vs KB thread, one poster believed Sasori could poison even V1 with puppets.

Completely without his eye no, but if he can use it as he did against the fodder and Sasuke at the end, that should at least give Danzo enough speed to keep up.

Maybe but he still needs Izanagi.

[Wooster]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

He is still being sucked in.



Funny that Danzo never attempted to blitz Sasuke regardless.
Sharingan gives you boosted pseudo Precog/prediction. Not enhanced reflexes or anything.

Danzo had already had some good reaction even without regardless but he isn't a speedster on Sasuke's level.



V2 is up for grabs I supppose. Then again I recall in a Sasori vs KB thread, one poster believed Sasori could poison even V1 with puppets.



Maybe but he still needs Izanagi.

To generate force you need to press against something. Air is usually not amenable to that.

That is what we are lead to believe, but that was not what happened. Somehow using the sharingan enhances Danzo's speed.

Danzo is not at Sasuke's speed level when he doesn't have Shisui's eye active. When he does, he is faster. You know how we know this? Becuase when Sasuke tried to chidori Danzo, Danzo was half way to Karin before Sasuke even knew what was happening. Whether Danzo can maintain that reaction speed is up for debate. But I think it is safe to say, Danzo just really wasn't expecting a chidori spear through Karin.

That really makes no sense. A Cloak that can attack, isn't being posioned. Although, I guess iron sand might be able to pierce the cloak and then work...

Or use Baku.

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by Wooster

To generate force you need to press against something. Air is usually not amenable to that.

That is what we are lead to believe, but that was not what happened. Somehow using the sharingan enhances Danzo's speed.

Danzo is not at Sasuke's speed level when he doesn't have Shisui's eye active. When he does, he is faster. You know how we know this? Becuase when Sasuke tried to chidori Danzo, Danzo was half way to Karin before Sasuke even knew what was happening. Whether Danzo can maintain that reaction speed is up for debate. But I think it is safe to say, Danzo just really wasn't expecting a chidori spear through Karin.

That really makes no sense. A Cloak that can attack, isn't being posioned. Although, I guess iron sand might be able to pierce the cloak and then work...

Or use Baku.

Even if that is the case. Killerbee doesn't just have lariat. Then again his lariat summons skeletal forms of himself.

There is no indication to believe so. It just gave Danzo extra boost in perception and at the last second Danzo bolted away in a burst. Nothing surprising there.

Apparently I believe it was referred to the 100 puppets.

Now we are repeating ourselves again.

[Wooster]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

Even if that is the case. Killerbee doesn't just have lariat. Then again his lariat summons skeletal forms of himself.

There is no indication to believe so. It just gave Danzo extra boost in perception and at the last second Danzo bolted away in a burst. Nothing surprising there.

Apparently I believe it was referred to the 100 puppets.

Now we are repeating ourselves again.

That's all well and good, but you do realize how gigantic Baku is.

Except that means Danzo has reflexes and speed that are faster than even Sasuke can perceive. It's not like Danzo just dodged Sasuke; Sasuke didn't even have a clue where Danzo went.

No, that ain't happening. They only have blades.

It tends to happen. Really, this thread is deficient, and we had to work to make something to argue about.
Shisui's eye is not restricted. Danzo uses it to make KB lock Hachibi inside himself. Game over.

[321zigzag3]

Bee wrestles with giant Bears.

Yes and no. It still doesn't show why Danzo could have blitzed Sasuke to death like you suggested.

No it won't but it didn't stop people from suggesting.

Eye isn't restricted.

[Wooster]

Which are about the size of Baku's tooth.

Danzo needs to arms to do jutsu, you will notice he had only one arm. Danzo already knew Sasuke can block with Susano'o bones. An unenhanced kunai is doing nothing to that. It wasn't worth the risk to only attack with that. Danzo had foot speed that is all, so he ran away.

Indeed, it is.

[321zigzag3]

How do you know?

So you are calling PIS or CIS on Danzo for not doing that earlier?

[Wooster]

I asked Kishi?

He didn't have Shisui's eye active because he used it on Mifune. I call "Shit happens."

[321zigzag3]

Nope.

He could still have used it. Not a good argument.