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Old 01-31-2012, 04:48 PM   #1
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Hebi Sasuke vs Kisame

Kisame has Samehada
Sasuke has 1 hour prep

Sasuke knows about Waterdome
Kisame knows about sharingan and lightning based attacks.

Start distance is 125 Meters
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Old 01-31-2012, 05:25 PM   #2
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LOL

Kisame even know MS abilities before Naruto Series start. <- When we first saw Tsukoyomi used against Kakashi, kisame already had info about it. First time we saw amaterasu against Jiraiya, Kisame know about it too already.

Kisame win because of him he can create a massive Tsunami and He drain chakra.. Sasuke can't breathe under water. Water dome is big you can almost see it on entire forest.

Sasuke speed had hard time keeping up with Bee base form. Bee owned him twice in close combat.
Bee had hard time against Kisame speed alone, Even in his v2 form, Kisame fused with Samaheda move faster than Bee v2.

Kisame fused with Samaheda -> Drain chakra + Can tank direct hit from Bee v2..

Susanoo attack wont work against Kisame fused with samaheda, he will just drain Susanoo chakra.

Kisame only take 1 hand seal to make a water dome and water dome move itself when kisame move.
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hebi Sasuke means curse mark and no MS
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Old 01-31-2012, 05:28 PM   #4
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hebi Sasuke means curse mark and no MS
Then he still have no chance. Hebi Sasuke may have boost chakra from curse mark. But Samehada alone can eat load of chakra -> 6 tails chakra in instant. I don't see sasuke chakra pool that big.
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Kisame tittystomps.
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Old 01-31-2012, 05:59 PM   #6
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Not unless Sasuke suddenly has the ability to manipulate the weather. My understanding of meteorology is not extensive, but last I checked it takes alot more than just shooting fire in the air and waiting a few minutes.
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Sasuke needed the help of Amaterasu to change the atmosphere enough for him to be able to use Kirin. By himself he would probably run out of chakra trying to prepare kirin with his regular fire.
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Maybe Sasuke will get lucky and an afternoon storm will brew up?
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What can kirin do if Kisame fused with samaheda can drain any ninjutsu attack, cuz kisame fused can absorb its energy from it.
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LOL, then let me ask u something?

How can sasuke hit Kisame on the big water dome? he can't see what inside of water dome...let alone a tsunami infront of sasuke, he doesnt know where to hit kisame if his hiding.

Sasuke need to guide kirin just to hit Itachi, but without seeing where kisame is, he cant guide where its target.
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Sasuke did not need Amaterasu to make Kirin. Evidenced by the fact that before he fired his Fire release Great Dragon Fire technique it was not raining with clear skies and after he did it began to rain and that jutsu alone heated the air so much and created the thunderclouds necessary to create Kirin. Therefore Kirin is still valid. episode #138.

Lemonade Kirin is pure lightning it does not use chakra. Chakra only guides it to its target.
you should use Manga to justify your statements, but either way, it was stated in chapter 391 that Sasuke went outside to take advantage of Ammy's heat, and you can see how the black flames are all over the place.
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Default Re: Hebi Sasuke vs Kisame

^Chakra based lightning conducts well in water too.

Darui used his Water Encampment Wall for conducting another lightning release.Also, Sasuke used the water that bee was covered in to shock bee with a chidori.
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Supposing Sasuke is capable of using it, which he, you know, isn't.
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it takes alot more than just shooting fire in the air and waiting a few minutes.

Just because Kishimoto sucks at meteorology doesn't mean we here in the Battlegrounds have to allow his retarded understanding of it to affect matches.
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Old 01-31-2012, 07:03 PM   #15
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Its not the volts that kill people its the ampere..

Kisame can survive this even fused with samaheda, unless u tell me Sasuke use amps

You can buy a Stun Gun with 1,000 Volts with 1 Amps => This wont kill you.
You can buy a 120Volts with amp of 15-20 => This will kill you instantly.
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^So you're basically saying an attack that destroyed a mountain won't even harm Kisame because it doesn't have amps...? Grenades don't have amps, but I'm not going to take one to the nuts and live.
Besides the fact that lightning actually can have up to 200,000 amps.


Then in that case I guess Kisame can't fight because he's half Fish which isn't humanly possible.

It doesn't matter how Kishi portrays it, the author's intention is what the fiction and debates are based off of, arguing with someone who made the Naruto world's intentions doesn't make sense.

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Very well then. If you want to be ridiculous, two can play at that game.

By feats, Sasuke can only change the weather outside of the Uchiha Hideout with the help of Itachi's Amaterasu.

Since he doesn't have Itachi's Amaterasu and the fight doesn't take place poutside the Uchiha hideout,. Kirin is off the table.
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Pop quiz: When lightning hits a large body of water, why does everything in that large body of water not die instantly?

Because the electricity spreads out through the water, weakening as it goes. Kirin might hurt Kisame if it hit him unprotected, but inside the water dome, he is very well insulated.
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Anime is not canon. What happens in it can not be applied in these debates unlss otherwise specified by the thread starter in the opening post.

And regardless, feats still have Sasuke limited to outside of the Uchiha Hideout with the help of Itachi's Amaterasu.
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Well what is the typical voltage and amperage of a bolt of lightning. Let me check.
1.) we dont know how much volts sasuke lightning is.
2.) we dont know wether sasuke uses amps
3.) we dont know if Kisame fused with samehada gain a ohm resistance.
4.) we dont know the height of narutoverse clouds itself.
5.) we dont know if sasuke posses a capacitor to control the thunder itself -.l-

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Well what is the typical voltage and amperage of a bolt of lightning. Let me check.

From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning
From NOAA: How many volts and watts are in lightning?

Lightning can have 100 million to 1 billion volts, and contains billions of watts.

http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/faq/faq_ltg.php halfway down
So 100 million volts, I see human able to survive from getting hit by lightning. It didn't kill him with 100 million volts -> i guess the amps were too low, it all depend where and what weather look like. 1 amp cant kill you even if u have thousands volts.

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