Mu vs 2nd Mizukage

[Lemonadez]

Originally Posted by Wooster

When did I say 2nd's chakra is invisible? I only claimed that when genjutsu of the 2nd's clam is applied, being a sensor does you no good; thus, the 2nd is invisible. The whole point of the 2nd's genjutsu is essentially mass hysteria.

Its a mass genjutsu and genjutsu mess ur brain.

But Mu AOE -.-

I know they double ko each other, but it depend on what terrain they are on. let say they both fighting at hidden mist of course 2nd mizu got advantage?

But what if they are fighting on hidden rock where nothing but loads of rock and earth. Doton around and it might hit the clam.

[321zigzag3]

The standard default location is in the Crater where it was formed Konoha was destroyed. 50 meter default distance.

[SimpleGenin]

Using "it already happened" doesnt really work. We know next to nothing about there fight except that 2nd killed Muu first. We dont know the situation basically. Handicaps, ambush, etc. those will affect the fight

[Wooster]

All of which would need to be specified in the OP. Since they are not: default conditions.

[Lord Jiraiya]

Originally Posted by Wooster

Proof the 2nd can use genjutsu and jokey boy at the same time.

prove he cant???

The clam is the one performing the genjutsu not the second so it should be a problam for him to use jokey boy while the clam keeps the genjutsu up.

Plus no details about the fight have been shown for all we know Mu could of had a lot more back up the the second and thats the reason it ended with both their lives ending. just because they both die fighting each other doesnt mean their power is the same.

from what i've seen Mu hasnt shown any special sensor powers that would allow him to find the second.

[SimpleGenin]

Originally Posted by Wooster

All of which would need to be specified in the OP. Since they are not: default conditions.

exactly my point. default condition is dif from what happened from what could have hppened in the manga.

[Lemonadez]

Originally Posted by Lord Jiraiya

prove he cant???

The clam is the one performing the genjutsu not the second so it should be a problam for him to use jokey boy while the clam keeps the genjutsu up.

Plus no details about the fight have been shown for all we know Mu could of had a lot more back up the the second and thats the reason it ended with both their lives ending. just because they both die fighting each other doesnt mean their power is the same.

from what i've seen Mu hasnt shown any special sensor powers that would allow him to find the second.

how can he use jokey boy? last time i know jokey boy only appear when 2nd Mizukage body weaken LOL..

[Wooster]

Originally Posted by Lord Jiraiya

prove he cant???

The clam is the one performing the genjutsu not the second so it should be a problam for him to use jokey boy while the clam keeps the genjutsu up.

Plus no details about the fight have been shown for all we know Mu could of had a lot more back up the the second and thats the reason it ended with both their lives ending. just because they both die fighting each other doesnt mean their power is the same.

from what i've seen Mu hasnt shown any special sensor powers that would allow him to find the second.

I am not saying he can. You are. How about some proof of that.
I have plenty of evidence on my side, since you know, we have never seen him use both at the same time.

[SimpleGenin]

Originally Posted by Wooster

I am not saying he can. You are. How about some proof of that.
I have plenty of evidence on my side, since you know, we have never seen him use both at the same time.

Why cant he?

Genjutsu is produced by the summoning and Jkey Boy is made by The second. Saying he cant is like saying Katsuyu cant do acid slime while Tsunade's healling herself.

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by Wooster

I have plenty of evidence on my side, since you know, we have never seen him use both at the same time.

Then it makes much less sense how Mizukage stalemated Muu somehow.

[SO6P]

Muu win