Temari vs Guren

Hotarubi Hyuuga · 01-17-2012, 03:03 PM

OK here are two people who's jutsu's I am very fond of, Temari and Guren, two very strong Kinouchi with some class A jutsu's but who do you think would win between the two in an all out fight?

The rules are use what you know about the two, anime or manga it doesn't matter. I say thing because I am not sure if Guren was ever in the Manga or not.

If you haven't seen it but there is a possibility that it could happen because of what you know about them then that is cool too.

However for those of you who don't know who Guren is, she was like the main enemy for the most part in the three tails arc so you can go ahead and watch that it you are not familiar with her.

Both have not used a drop of chakra before the fight

They don't know anything about the other person's jutsu

They are in a forest with a huge lake in the middle of it

They start about the same distance away that Temari and Tenten were during the chunin exams in the middle of the lake.

Wooster · 01-17-2012, 03:24 PM

Depends on distance, but give the edge to Guren, particularly if they are close.
Don't think Temari has any attack that stops her form being turn into a crystal.

And given the relative weakness of Temari's wind attacks, in can only chop down tress in large pieces, I'd say Guren could protect herself in crystal in a pinch.

Cult of Personality · 01-17-2012, 04:22 PM

50 meters = Quick Beheading Dance. If they were closer together, Temari might lose, but Guren gets sliced and diced from any reasonable distance.

Schnarf · 01-17-2012, 04:49 PM

What is the distance?

Cult of Personality · 01-17-2012, 04:50 PM

Failing specification by the OP, the assumed distance is 50 meters.

Schnarf · 01-17-2012, 04:53 PM

Hmm... I'd say Temari takes this since we're assuming the distance is 50 meters. I agree with you Cult, if they were closer, Guren may have a chance. But from 50 meters, Temari would slice Guren up before Guren could touch her.

Hotarubi Hyuuga · 01-17-2012, 05:06 PM

Maybe that is assuming that Temari could even hit Guren and not accidentally hit a crystal clone.

Cult of Personality · 01-17-2012, 05:08 PM

Assuming Guren can create a crystal clone before being killed like a thing that gets sliced to pieces by a flying weasel wielding a scythe.

Anyway, there's nowhere for Guren to hide, so unless she happens to have the ability to become invisible, it's gonna be pretty obvious where she is.

Hotarubi Hyuuga · 01-17-2012, 05:18 PM

Maybe, you might be right about that it depends on where they are, but I don't really think that distance will give Temari a complete advantage because of some of the moves that Guren can use like the Crystal Release: String of Glory or the Crystal Release: Jade Crystal Labyrinth Technique.

Those two are just an example of dangerous moves that Guren could use at a distance.

And it has been proven that her crystals can withstand more than one rasengan, the sting of glory can for sure.

Tenz · 01-17-2012, 05:32 PM

Guren was fighting against Kakashi and was holding her own. Temari's wind techniques are impressive but I don't think she will be able to cut crystal

Hotarubi Hyuuga · 01-17-2012, 05:35 PM

I changed the OP to be more specific just in case anyone might have been confused OK.

Wooster · 01-17-2012, 05:50 PM

Given that Guren can set up a crystal that resists even rasengan, she can easily protect herself from any of Temari's attacks. Once Temari wears herself out, crystallize her.

Hotarubi Hyuuga · 01-17-2012, 07:28 PM

Now think about it I'm not saying that she could, however; there is a possibility that if Guren had the mind to, that could simply just crystallize Temari's fan and the and shatter it which from what I know about her attack would disintegrate her fan.

And even if she weren't able to shatter the fan, crystallizing it alone would cause Temari some serious problems, because I don't know if Temaris is even capable of doing any type of jutsu without her fan.

I guess it would depend on rather Guren decides to crystallize it when the fan is open or not because, if it's open then she might still be able to use wind jutsu's, but I'm not really sure. However if it were still open while crystallized I think the crystal might make the fan heavier than Temari is used to.

I mean from what I know Gurens jutsu can turn any solid matter into crystal like water and earth, but it can't turn things like wind lighting or fire, but it can defend against them.

superelephant36 · 01-18-2012, 03:08 PM

Temari's summoning should wrap this up. Guren really doesn't have anything for long range and Temari's wind could easily put enough distance for this fight to lopside.

mikeiskewl922 · 01-18-2012, 03:32 PM

If I remember correctly, it is a summon and that takes time, then she actually has to wave her fan, etc. In the entire time it takes to summon for Temari, Guren has crystallized her or at least uses a crystal shield which blocked Rasengan therefore could block her wind easily.

Hotarubi Hyuuga · 01-18-2012, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superelephant36

Temari's summoning should wrap this up. Guren really doesn't have anything for long range and Temari's wind could easily put enough distance for this fight to lopside.

Actually guren does have a few moves that could reach long distance or at least cover a large area.

Like the Crystal Release: Jade Crystal Labyrinth Technique or the Crystal Release: Jade Crystal Wall Eighth Formation

She also has moves that could protect her from Temari's attacks like Crystal Release: String of Glory which could also attack Temari while she is being protected.

Maybe before e continue you should probably take a look at her moves and ad up o them.

Personally I think that if her crystal's can take more than one of Naruto's rasengan's then I'm pretty sure that it can take Temari's wind attacks.

Wooster · 01-18-2012, 04:05 PM

Sorry, please do not post links to Naurtowikia, it has Naruto images.

The sad thing is Guren as a filler character is both more interesting and has better attacks than 90% of Kishi's female characters.

Hotarubi Hyuuga · 01-18-2012, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wooster

Sorry, please do not post links to Naurtowikia, it has Naruto images.

The sad thing is Guren as a filler character is both more interesting and has better attacks than 90% of Kishi's female characters.

Oh so that's why my link keeps disappearing.

But it is true I do love her jutsu.

I wonder why they didn't go ahead and make her an actual character in the manga?

Hotarubi Hyuuga · 01-18-2012, 06:32 PM

You know I like them both and I put them against each other because I like both of their jutsu's but the more I think about it the more I really don't think Temari can win.

roullex uchiha · 01-19-2012, 01:48 PM

Even though its 50m Gurren can simply protect herself.But not for long.

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01-17-2012, 03:03 PM	#1
Hotarubi Hyuuga Chunin Exam Proctor Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the Universe Posts: 1,754 Rep Power: 4 Member's Picture Albums	Temari vs Guren OK here are two people who's jutsu's I am very fond of, Temari and Guren, two very strong Kinouchi with some class A jutsu's but who do you think would win between the two in an all out fight? The rules are use what you know about the two, anime or manga it doesn't matter. I say thing because I am not sure if Guren was ever in the Manga or not. If you haven't seen it but there is a possibility that it could happen because of what you know about them then that is cool too. However for those of you who don't know who Guren is, she was like the main enemy for the most part in the three tails arc so you can go ahead and watch that it you are not familiar with her. Both have not used a drop of chakra before the fight They don't know anything about the other person's jutsu They are in a forest with a huge lake in the middle of it They start about the same distance away that Temari and Tenten were during the chunin exams in the middle of the lake. __________________ O M F G !Those rocks look like Cinnamon Toast Crunch!! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. PSN: ReckoningLord Through brightest day, through blackest night, no evil shall escape my sight, let all who worship evils might, beware my power, green lanterns light! Holding some special in my heart Last edited by Hotarubi Hyuuga; 01-20-2012 at 07:19 PM. Reason: I needed to be more specific I think that people might have been confused.

01-17-2012, 03:24 PM	#2
Wooster Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 36,974 Rep Power: 32	Re: Temari vs Guren Depends on distance, but give the edge to Guren, particularly if they are close. Don't think Temari has any attack that stops her form being turn into a crystal. And given the relative weakness of Temari's wind attacks, in can only chop down tress in large pieces, I'd say Guren could protect herself in crystal in a pinch. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

01-17-2012, 04:22 PM	#3
Cult of Personality Super Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2,800 Rep Power: 0	Re: Temari vs Guren 50 meters = Quick Beheading Dance. If they were closer together, Temari might lose, but Guren gets sliced and diced from any reasonable distance.

01-17-2012, 04:49 PM	#4
Schnarf Childish Gambino Lover Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,475 Rep Power: 9	Re: Temari vs Guren What is the distance? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. The Strokes

01-17-2012, 04:50 PM	#5
Cult of Personality Super Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2,800 Rep Power: 0	Re: Temari vs Guren Failing specification by the OP, the assumed distance is 50 meters.

01-17-2012, 04:53 PM	#6
Schnarf Childish Gambino Lover Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,475 Rep Power: 9	Re: Temari vs Guren Hmm... I'd say Temari takes this since we're assuming the distance is 50 meters. I agree with you Cult, if they were closer, Guren may have a chance. But from 50 meters, Temari would slice Guren up before Guren could touch her. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. The Strokes

01-17-2012, 05:06 PM	#7
Hotarubi Hyuuga Chunin Exam Proctor Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the Universe Posts: 1,754 Rep Power: 4 Member's Picture Albums	Re: Temari vs Guren Maybe that is assuming that Temari could even hit Guren and not accidentally hit a crystal clone. __________________ O M F G !Those rocks look like Cinnamon Toast Crunch!! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. PSN: ReckoningLord Through brightest day, through blackest night, no evil shall escape my sight, let all who worship evils might, beware my power, green lanterns light! Holding some special in my heart

01-17-2012, 05:08 PM	#8
Cult of Personality Super Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2,800 Rep Power: 0	Re: Temari vs Guren Assuming Guren can create a crystal clone before being killed like a thing that gets sliced to pieces by a flying weasel wielding a scythe. Anyway, there's nowhere for Guren to hide, so unless she happens to have the ability to become invisible, it's gonna be pretty obvious where she is.

01-17-2012, 05:18 PM	#9
Hotarubi Hyuuga Chunin Exam Proctor Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the Universe Posts: 1,754 Rep Power: 4 Member's Picture Albums	Re: Temari vs Guren Maybe, you might be right about that it depends on where they are, but I don't really think that distance will give Temari a complete advantage because of some of the moves that Guren can use like the Crystal Release: String of Glory or the Crystal Release: Jade Crystal Labyrinth Technique. Those two are just an example of dangerous moves that Guren could use at a distance. And it has been proven that her crystals can withstand more than one rasengan, the sting of glory can for sure. __________________ O M F G !Those rocks look like Cinnamon Toast Crunch!! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. PSN: ReckoningLord Through brightest day, through blackest night, no evil shall escape my sight, let all who worship evils might, beware my power, green lanterns light! Holding some special in my heart Last edited by Hotarubi Hyuuga; 01-17-2012 at 05:28 PM.

01-17-2012, 05:32 PM	#10
Tenz Genin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: New York City Posts: 255 Rep Power: 3	Re: Temari vs Guren Guren was fighting against Kakashi and was holding her own. Temari's wind techniques are impressive but I don't think she will be able to cut crystal __________________ PSN: LoVeDSoLDiieR ------------------------

01-17-2012, 05:35 PM	#11
Hotarubi Hyuuga Chunin Exam Proctor Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the Universe Posts: 1,754 Rep Power: 4 Member's Picture Albums	Re: Temari vs Guren I changed the OP to be more specific just in case anyone might have been confused OK. __________________ O M F G !Those rocks look like Cinnamon Toast Crunch!! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. PSN: ReckoningLord Through brightest day, through blackest night, no evil shall escape my sight, let all who worship evils might, beware my power, green lanterns light! Holding some special in my heart

01-17-2012, 05:50 PM	#12
Wooster Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 36,974 Rep Power: 32	Re: Temari vs Guren Given that Guren can set up a crystal that resists even rasengan, she can easily protect herself from any of Temari's attacks. Once Temari wears herself out, crystallize her. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

01-17-2012, 07:28 PM	#13
Hotarubi Hyuuga Chunin Exam Proctor Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the Universe Posts: 1,754 Rep Power: 4 Member's Picture Albums	Re: Temari vs Guren Now think about it I'm not saying that she could, however; there is a possibility that if Guren had the mind to, that could simply just crystallize Temari's fan and the and shatter it which from what I know about her attack would disintegrate her fan. And even if she weren't able to shatter the fan, crystallizing it alone would cause Temari some serious problems, because I don't know if Temaris is even capable of doing any type of jutsu without her fan. I guess it would depend on rather Guren decides to crystallize it when the fan is open or not because, if it's open then she might still be able to use wind jutsu's, but I'm not really sure. However if it were still open while crystallized I think the crystal might make the fan heavier than Temari is used to. I mean from what I know Gurens jutsu can turn any solid matter into crystal like water and earth, but it can't turn things like wind lighting or fire, but it can defend against them. __________________ O M F G !Those rocks look like Cinnamon Toast Crunch!! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. PSN: ReckoningLord Through brightest day, through blackest night, no evil shall escape my sight, let all who worship evils might, beware my power, green lanterns light! Holding some special in my heart

01-18-2012, 03:08 PM	#14
superelephant36 Genin Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 336 Rep Power: 4	Re: Temari vs Guren Temari's summoning should wrap this up. Guren really doesn't have anything for long range and Temari's wind could easily put enough distance for this fight to lopside. __________________ "Wasn't much of a match; kinda boring." -Temari "I'll play you the melody of death!" -Tayuya "I want to be a great and powerful ninja! To walk in the footsteps of the legendary kunoichi, Tsunade!" *-Tenten*

01-18-2012, 03:32 PM	#15
mikeiskewl922 Veteran Chunin Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: In my house. xD Posts: 1,267 Rep Power: 6	Re: Temari vs Guren If I remember correctly, it is a summon and that takes time, then she actually has to wave her fan, etc. In the entire time it takes to summon for Temari, Guren has crystallized her or at least uses a crystal shield which blocked Rasengan therefore could block her wind easily. __________________ "I'd rather be hated for who I am, then loved for who i'm not." "Baby i'm gunna' set you free, Imma set you freeee."~ Village Hidden in the Moonlight~

01-18-2012, 04:05 PM	#17
Wooster Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 36,974 Rep Power: 32	Re: Temari vs Guren Sorry, please do not post links to Naurtowikia, it has Naruto images. The sad thing is Guren as a filler character is both more interesting and has better attacks than 90% of Kishi's female characters. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Wooster; 01-18-2012 at 04:12 PM.

01-18-2012, 06:32 PM	#19
Hotarubi Hyuuga Chunin Exam Proctor Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the Universe Posts: 1,754 Rep Power: 4 Member's Picture Albums	Re: Temari vs Guren You know I like them both and I put them against each other because I like both of their jutsu's but the more I think about it the more I really don't think Temari can win. __________________ O M F G !Those rocks look like Cinnamon Toast Crunch!! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. PSN: ReckoningLord Through brightest day, through blackest night, no evil shall escape my sight, let all who worship evils might, beware my power, green lanterns light! Holding some special in my heart

01-19-2012, 01:48 PM	#20
roullex uchiha Chunin Exam Participant Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 765 Rep Power: 3	Re: Temari vs Guren Even though its 50m Gurren can simply protect herself.But not for long. __________________ Sage Art:Super Giant Rasengan!

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