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Old 01-07-2012, 04:03 PM   #41
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Scorpion's Water jets that cut through solid boulders and a cloud, Fire jets that melted rocks. How is that not doing anything???
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Water jets and fire jets were anime only weren't they? Add on to that, just because Sasori had some function doesn't mean Kankuro kept that function.

Either way:

Johnny's fire > steel.
Sasori's fire > rocks.
Steel > rocks.

Therefore, Johnny > Sasori.

Similarly, Sue's forcefield > Johnny's fire > Sasori.
Therefore, Sue's forcefield > Sasori.

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water anime only but the fire was in the manga
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Sue's Forcefield may be great against Area type attacks but how does it fair against a single heavily concentrated force is pushing against that single solitary point???

Also A>B>C Does not pertain here.
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Also In character as OP states Johnny would not Nova. However I.C. Naruto would Mass Spam in RM mode....
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I couldn't say, but it's not really relevant, since Kankuro will be dead LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG before he gets it into his head to target Sue.

A>B>C most certainly does apply.

Where rocks are inferior to steel, or rocks < steel and steel is inferior to Johnny's fire, or steel < Johnny's fire.

We can reasonably assume that Johnny is capable of melting rocks, or Johnny's fire > rocks.

Fun fact: Johnny is pyrokinetic. What this means is that he can control fire. Any fire. Including Sasori's fire. So all that would do is give Johnny more ammo. Not that he needs it because

Fun fact #2: Johnny can generate fire.

It isn't necessary that Johnny go nova to win. In character or not, standard BG rules indicate that the characters will do whatever it takes to win.

Naruto dies before he can think about doing anything in RM. Brainbubble. Burned to death. Ben punch. Etc etc etc.

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OP Overrule BG rules. OP is what states the conditions. Water Jets cut Steel in everyday mills here in the real world there fore Water jets act like Second Mizukage's Water Pistol right thru the body.
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OP Overrule BG rules.
Only if what the OP states actually contradicts what's in the BG rules. Which it does not in this case. Even in character, the FF will do what it takes to win.

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Water Jets cut Steel in everyday mills here in the real world
And what makes you think that Sasori's water jets are remotely comparable?

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there fore Water jets act like Second Mizukage's Water Pistol right thru the body.
You can, of course, prove this.

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Time for a little science lesson.

The temperature at which water boils is 100 degrees celcius.
The temperature at which steel melts is somewhere in the area of 1400 degrees celcius.

Would anyone care to take a guess as to the relevance of these two facts?
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op states manga feats only while water jets is anime only
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Fun fact: Johnny is immune to temperatures not exceeding his supernova.
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Water jets and fire jets were anime only weren't they? Add on to that, just because Sasori had some function doesn't mean Kankuro kept that function.

Either way:

Johnny's fire > steel. Sasori's Water Jets > Steel
Sasori's fire > rocks. Sasori's Water Jets > Rocks (cut straight through)
Steel > rocks. Sasori's Water Jets > Steel > Rocks

Water > Fire

Therefore, Johnny > Sasori. Therefore Sasori puppet > Johnny



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Ignoring the fact that Sasori can't use the water jets because they are anime only:

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Sasori's Water Jets > Steel
Proof.

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Sasori's Water Jets > Rocks (cut straight through)
Irrelevant.

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Sasori's Water Jets > Steel > Rocks
Again, proof?
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Water > Fire
Technically accurate, but where the intensity of the fire far exceeds the point at which water turns into harmless vapor, not so much.

Fun fact: Johnny is far above that point.

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Therefore Sasori puppet > Johnny
Maybe in your insane little fantasy world. Here in the BG, not so much.
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Also for proof that water cuts metal see this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=wPYwrFwQrN4
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That doesn't mean that Sasori's water can.
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from narutopedia

Scorpion was the puppet body of Sasori when he was alive. When he inhabited it, it contained his heart in the left compartment on its chest and in the right side of his chest compartment was a mechanism that could spin numerous chakra threads, which allowed Sasori to use his Red Secret Technique: Performance of a thousand Puppets.
Its stomach contained a thick cable coiled around a pole (which was coated in Sasori's poison before his death), allowing the puppeteer to use it as a stinger and retract it if necessary. Attached to its back was a scroll holder, containing four scrolls that seem to serve as "ammunition", one of which Sasori used to store his puppets. Scorpion also has a pair of poles to the back of its hips, each equipped with five large blades (also drenched in poison) that could spin like a propeller, and pipes running through each of its hands that could spew out intense fire or powerful jets of water.
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Two things:
1: The Narutopedia is not proof.
2: That doesn't actually support your claim in any way.
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you claimed I had no proof that Scorpion had water jets. Well there you go.

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Quite the contrary, I claimed you have no proof that Sasori's water jets are superior to steel. Which remains accurate.

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That video I posted proves Water Jets are superior to steel. You can't argue with the footage provided. Sasori's jets not only reached clouds, it sliced them.
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So at what point at you going to prove that Sasori's water jets are superior to steel?

Just that video is not enough. All water jets are not created equal, otherwise a super-soaker would a lethal weapon.

As for slicing clouds, considering that clouds are nothing more than, you know, water, I'm gonna go ahead and say that that's not a very impressive achievement.
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