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Originally Posted by Super Sanin 3
I'm against the idea, not for it.
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I know i was just backing you up.
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Originally Posted by Super Sanin 3
I don't think Hashirama was god-tier, but certainly powerful. This guy, however, is certainly of or may be close to THE most powerful ninja in the manga aside from the SOT6P etc. This is Madara's trump card. He's currently fighting the 5 kages and is having a fun time playing with them while sitting in Susano'o. And he looks awesome to boot
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The 1st hokage could control many tailed beast at once. If it can be proven he could summon them into combat then you could debate he couldn't be beat. Who could beat him plus more then one tailed beast at once?
Im not saying he could summon them but if he could.
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Originally Posted by paradigm1977
Well I have no hard proof, but if they are the same eyes, then Pein has EMS as well. Pein is far more experienced with the Rinnegan too. Nagato's weakness was being manipulated. And mobility.
If this is literally Pain, and not Nagato, I guess I would say Madara. If it's Madara vs. Nagato, I lean to ET Nagato beating ET Madara, due to Nagato's experience with Rinnegan and his mobility being fixed.
This argument should naturally be updated once we see what's going on with that meteor.
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Pain may have more experience, but Madara can summon the fox tailed beast ball shot at an point where pain cant get to absorb it in time.