Ninja War!!!

[Cult of Personality]

Meteor > Shinra Tensei. Like I said, maxed out after one.

Kabuto is outside the range of the impact, and even if he weren't, Leech All Creation.

[Nightmare Luffy]

And since not all 80,000 can be within its range after Kabuto comes out to revive Madara he gets hit with 20 FRS

[Cult of Personality]

That's what the spam is for. By the time the first one hits fifty more will be arriving. The allied forces will be too busy shitting themselves over how Madara is teh haxxorz to worry about Kabuto. And anyway, Kabuto doesn't need to be close to Madara to revive him.

Also, Naruto has no reason to specifically single out Kabuto over any other ninja, particularly given all the other Edo Tenseis running around. Naruto is barely aware that Kabuto even exists.

And sealing won't work, the second it looks like one of the Edos is gonna get sealed, Kabuto cancels the summon and then resummons them and sends them back out in the fight. Back to square 1 with the allies having wasted their resources trying and failing to seal the Edos while they're carving through Team Good Guy like nobody's business.

[Nightmare Luffy]

Well wheres the proof he can do 50 if he could just do that, the war would be much more simple when he can simply regenerate. I mean you could say its just PIS but is it really, he used the special jutsu that was hyped & said it was the power of a God, the next chapter when he used the second he asked how he'd handle a second one so I figure it was intended.

But I doubt he can use that many at all, and especially if you say it like that since the first meteor kills Madara, Kabuto will have to revive him first & not to mention he never showed the ability to do 50 at once(let alone @ all). Or at least in the time it takes for him to get killed by the first once.

Maybe possibly all the characters just steer clear of the meteors since theres so many, Madara just killed most of his team, and from there island busting jinton & mountain busting bijuu bombs kil leverything

[Cult of Personality]

Obviously it's an exaggeration, the point is, he'll spam the meteor like crazy.

Most of Madara's team are Edos, so no worries there.

[Nightmare Luffy]

Yes thats my point. I didnt mean 50 either, I was just referring to a lot of them when he was only shown to use 2. Its not my place to prove he cant though right & I mean youre the one saying he can use a lot of them.

Im pretty sure the OP said that they arent.

[Cult of Personality]

On the contrary, he's not given any indication that he is limited to two, he just chose to stop there.

Originally Posted by Lord Jiraiya

All ET but Itachi, Madara, Kakuzu, Nagato, Deidara, or Sasori)

And when those guys die, Kabuto can just Edo them then.

[Nightmare Luffy]

On the contrary of the contrary, there's nothing that actually proves he can create more meteors, you cant just assume he can that is a fallacy in its self CoP.

Well while you cant actually prove that he can create more its ridiculous for me to assume he can just because I cant prove he cant make more & have you using this logic for your main argument. What you said was "It was never specifically stated that he can only use 2, therefore it's logical to believe that he's able to create more than 2."

And I made it sound smarter htan you actually said it , what you really said was "He can make more because nothing proves he cant" in short. It's not however logical to just jump to that conclusion & sadly as much as Id like to agree CoP, as I showed you in my other post its not like everything is pointing toward his ability to make more than it is on, its own contrary.

Actually if you did say its PIS(well not actually proof) I really doubt Kishi would avoid something that obvious if Madara could just throw meteors all day long. Plus he acts like its a jutsu and not just the ability to pull meteors whenever he wants too, hes just saying "I get what this jutsu is for nuking" just the way he said it, not like its a spam further proving my point.

Anyway when kabuto goes to get all the bodies to do that, he gets hit by 20 FRS

[Cult of Personality]

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

Blahblahimatardblah.

Fact: Summoning the meteor is a jutsu.
Fact: He used that jutsu twice without otherwise indicating that he was incapable of continuing.

Conclusion: He could use more if he wanted, for as long as he has the chakra to do so.

Corollary: You must prove that two is his limit.

Anyway when kabuto goes to get all the bodies to do that, he gets hit by 20 FRS

Naruto is being kept busy by the Edos. He has no reason to target Kabuto, who he's barely aware even exists, over the more immediate threats.

[Nightmare Luffy]

Originally Posted by Cult of Personality

"He can make more because nothing proves he cant"

This is faulty logic where youre claiming to assume Madara can make more simply because theres no proof indicating otherwise. and Im not one to assume this things & commit a fallacy myself as Im looking at this logically.

Naruto is being kept busy by the Edos. He has no reason to target Kabuto, who he's barely aware even exists, over the more immediate threats.

What Edos, theyre all busy regenerating since they just got hit by a huge meteor. Muu was incapacitated from Narutos much weaker Rasengan & even he couldnt regenerate from it from quite some time.

Out of curiosity what am I a tard for Bertrand Russel

[Cult of Personality]

Do you know what a fallacy fallacy is?

Do you know what logic is?

Do you know what reasonable inference is?

And Naruto will just magically survive having a meteor dropped on him will he? You seem to be indicating that Madara and the Rockettes will suffer the full force of the effects of the meteor (which is itself unlikely) while the alliance avoids it entirely.

I don't remember all of the fight with Muu but from what I recall, Naruto didn't arrive until WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY into the fight, and Muu was only incapacitated because he used that jutsu to split himself in two because he was outnumbered too greatly. So like, you're exaggerating Naruto's contribution to the fight.

P.S. Russell not Russel

P.P.S. Madara meteor spam.

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[Nightmare Luffy]

Yes, I never said your argument was wrong just because you comitted a fallacy I said it was faulty logic by itself & fallacies generally point that out. What I said was just because nothing proves it, doesnt mean that its obviously true & Im not one to assume that.
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Naruto wont be within range of it I didnt say the alliance avoids it, Im just saying there 180,000+ fighters so..not many will be really hurt in the big picture

Well I was just saying, the damage Naruto did to him was still visible after so long & he still couldnt regenerate the damage for awhile.

[Cult of Personality]

Either you consider my argument to be valid or you consider it to be invalid citing some logical fallacy you believe me to be making. Since you deny the latter, the only conclusion is that the former is accurate. In which case I win, you lose, neenerneenerbooboo.

Suggestiung that Naruto is capable of avoiding it also suggests that Madara is capable of using it outside of the area of its effect. Hence and theretofore, Madara uses Meteor. When Naruto runs away like a scared little girl the Edos chase after him and kill him while he's wetting his my little pony panties.

That's because when he split himself in two each of the two was half as weak as the combined whole. Doesn't mean nothin'.

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[321zigzag3]

NL and Cult of Personality please take it to PMs.

[Nightmare Luffy]

Originally Posted by Cult of Personality

Either you consider my argument to be valid or you consider it to be invalid citing some logical fallacy you believe me to be making. Since you deny the latter, the only conclusion is that the former is accurate. In which case I win, you lose, neenerneenerbooboo.

Suggestiung that Naruto is capable of avoiding it also suggests that Madara is capable of using it outside of the area of its effect. Hence and theretofore, Madara uses Meteor. When Naruto runs away like a scared little girl the Edos chase after him and kill him while he's wetting his my little pony panties.

That's because when he split himself in two each of the two was half as weak as the combined whole. Doesn't mean nothin'.

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But you forgot about the other hundred top tier ninja that are on narutos side. like Onoki Mei Gaara Tsunade A Kakashi Gai etc etc.
IDK what your first paragraph said I think something about me being right & you being wrong.

So if he took like 5 minutes to regenerate from it, with double the power even if we do assume thats true then itd still take 2 minutes. Normally they regen from like explosions & stuff instantly. Imagine a meteor.

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

NL and Cult of Personality please take it to PMs.

Why? Were debating on topic he thinks Madara can make way more than 2 meteors when nothing suggests it and everything points against it.

[Cult of Personality]

So to recap, meteor spam is a valid tactic and you've got nothing to refute it.

An explosion blasting them into a billion pieces would be harder to regen from than merely being squished by a giant rock. So they regen basically instantly.

Nothing points against it and everything reasonable points to it.

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[Sage Mode Kakashi]

Like Someone else said Madara can be out of range and still drop a meteor of one of the units.

This is like the war right So there in 5 units right.

Pain Spams Missle's, laser beams, and finishes one unit out with a CST and if CST doesnt finish them they get finished by CT.

Lets say Madara is dealing with Gaara and Onoki's unit. Madara Drops one Meteor and onoki lightens it up and we know this takes time. So while his stopping the meteor, Madara Drop a second Meteor else where he cant stop the second meteor and the first one at the same time. Onoki lives while the unit is killed by the second meteor.
Madara then Amy onoki while his hands are full.

Sasoir summons 100 puppets and starts killing ninja while Deidara preps C4. and kills the full unit with it.

During this whole time the ASF has to fight the 100,000 Zetsu Army.

Two tails, three tails, Four Tails, Five Tails, Six Tails, and the Seven Tails is running around killing ninja Naruto cant finish them off.

We know that both sides lose half there man power on day one, but that was not with Pain, Itachi, Sasori, Hidan and kakuzu still having there secret jutsu unknown to the ASFs.

This is BG rules and ASFs dont know any of there secrets. Pain with his secret and Kanon with full war Prep 600 billion bombs just kills everyone.

[Lord Jiraiya]

Those who are on Naruto's Side explain how he lives through a 600 billion paper bomb sea?

Madara can be on top a Mountin and drop a Meteor Onoki trys to stop it, but Madara uses that time to drop a second one on another part on the battlefield killing his allies. Pain Spams Missiles while Deva Path floats Above and hits them with a CST.
Sasoir uses 100 puppets amy and starts poisoning countless ninja. Hidan cant die so he just runs around killing ninja's. Kakuzu Spams elemental attacks with his mask.
Kisame is killing countless ninja by sucking up all there chakra at once, Since we know they dont have 6 tails worth of chakra. Itachi is walking around with SoT cutting ninja in half. 3rd Raikage is using his finger jutsu running through countless ninja. Mu is turn countless ninja into nothing. Second Mizukage uses his battlefield Mirage and is killing countless ninja. Torune is poisoning ninja with his bugs. while the two, three, four, five, six and seven tails are running around killing countless ninja.

Madara then covers the field with wood style killing countless more ninja.
pain summons all his summons and his Demonic Staue of the outer Path.

The Demonic Statue then uses his Dragon-like Entity to start stoling the souls of the ASFs or it runs around killing countless ninja since we have seen no one has been able to stop it.

Ginkaka and Kinkaka are using the tools to kill ninja.

Killer Bee transforms and Itachi seals him with the SoT.

[Nightmare Luffy]

Originally Posted by Cult of Personality

So to recap, meteor spam is a valid tactic and you've got nothing to refute it.

An explosion blasting them into a billion pieces would be harder to regen from than merely being squished by a giant rock. So they regen basically instantly.

Nothing points against it and everything reasonable points to it.

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Okay so spamming mountain busting bijuu balls and an island busting jinton is a valid tactic as well

But it was just in his stomach, Madara didnt regen instantly pages after he still stood there with the damage just regening.

[Cult of Personality]

On the contrary, Bee's biju balls don't form fast enough to make spamming a valid strategy, and I've yet to see island busting among the qualities possessed by dust release. Fun fact though, the other seven bijuu are on Madara's team.

Time is not portrayed the same way in every panel. What may take five pages may amount to mere seconds. Dramatic slow-mo regen is better than "*poof* Im back to normal." so the frame is skewed in that favor.

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