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Old 12-30-2011, 08:34 AM   #1
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:22 AM   #2
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Well Preta can copy all of Sasuke's techniques, genjutsu arguably doesn't work on dead bodys, and his sword won't do any damage. So basically Sasuke has nothing to hurt Pain with.
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Old 12-30-2011, 05:10 PM   #3
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Why do people keep saying Genjutsu doesn't work on pain?

Pain was clearly caught in genjutsu by ma & pa's frog song and was in it long enough for jiraiya to talk and then kill all three of them. This should tell everyone Pain is clearly affacted by genjutsu.
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Old 12-30-2011, 05:26 PM   #4
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I think that Sasuke might win. If Naruto could win, Sasuke probably could too. It would be close tho.
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Now that he has EMS he should be able to win if he can make sure to kill Deva before CST or CT.
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Old 12-30-2011, 05:42 PM   #6
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This also depends on what sort of knowledge Sasuke has of Pain.

In Naruto's case he had Katsuyu with him as well and Ma and Pa.

All three of those had vital information that allowed Naruto to come up with the strategy to eventually defeat Pain.
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I would wait and watch to see what Sasuke can do with his eternal Mangekyo Sharingan. Logically, he's supposed to be on Naruto's level with it.
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Why do people keep saying Genjutsu doesn't work on pain?

Pain was clearly caught in genjutsu by ma & pa's frog song and was in it long enough for jiraiya to talk and then kill all three of them. This should tell everyone Pain is clearly affacted by genjutsu.
Frog Song is a genjutsu that affects hearing, and its main purpose is to paralyze the victim. On the other hand, Sharingan genjutsu relies on sight, and it focuses on mental torture. Pain is affected by genjutsu, but in this situation it could be different.
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This also depends on what sort of knowledge Sasuke has of Pain.

In Naruto's case he had Katsuyu with him as well and Ma and Pa.

All three of those had vital information that allowed Naruto to come up with the strategy to eventually defeat Pain.
Sasuke doesn't know anything about Pain, from what we've seen.
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:29 PM   #8
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Well Preta can copy all of Sasuke's techniques, genjutsu arguably doesn't work on dead bodys, and his sword won't do any damage. So basically Sasuke has nothing to hurt Pain with.
Whoa, whoa, whoa....Preta Path can copy enemy's techniques? When did that happen? Also Lord Jiraiya's right...Genjutsu works on Pain. And how can his sword not do any damage? His sword could arguably do quite a bit of damage if used in the right way, or could not come into play at all like in some cases.

I think the sharingan would compensate for lack of knowledge & I think he'd be intelligent enough to come up with counters to the paths but when it comes down to it, his fight style with the MS would lead to him being beaten.

Until EMS abilities come into play and we know what it does, I think I'd have to give this fight to Pain, because Naruto & Sasuke are supposed to be about equal, and the only reason Naruto won this fight was because the Kyuubi kicked the sh!t out of Deva. If it wasn't for that it'd have been a loss.

It would probably be epic no doubt though.

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I think he means absorb, not copy

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Old 12-30-2011, 07:40 PM   #10
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I see Sasuke putting up a good fight but ultimately succumbing. There's just so many advantages Pein has (Especially with limited knowledge) that it just sucks to be their opponent. Preta is like the ultimate defense, and shared vision increases their teamwork and reflexes.
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Old 12-31-2011, 06:29 AM   #11
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I would wait and watch to see what Sasuke can do with his eternal Mangekyo Sharingan. Logically, he's supposed to be on Naruto's level with it.

Frog Song is a genjutsu that affects hearing, and its main purpose is to paralyze the victim. On the other hand, Sharingan genjutsu relies on sight, and it focuses on mental torture. Pain is affected by genjutsu, but in this situation it could be different.

Sasuke doesn't know anything about Pain, from what we've seen.
No there isn't!

In the end genjutsu affects the brain. It can be cast by sight or hearing, but in the end all genjutsu affects the brain. So yes pain has clearly been affected by genjutsu which allows Sasuke to cast it on him.
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Old 12-31-2011, 08:40 AM   #12
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naruto also had the nine tails, where he would of probably been killed if he didnt.
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Yeah Naruto probably would have died without the fox's power, but PNJ would have come up with something else!
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Pain would win, but the fight would last a while!
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It would be epic fight,imagine shinra tensei blocking susano'o arrows and summoning VS susano'o.Too bad they will never fight :/
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YEa Sasuke would win if he has his Eternal Mankekyou Sharingan
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YEa Sasuke would win if he has his Eternal Mankekyou Sharingan

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Pain fires missles at Sasuke and he has to defend with Sasano'o.
Pain hits him with a Laser beam.
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Pain hits him with a CST.
Pain then hits him with CT.

Sasuke doesn't know which Pain to put in genjutsu and is blindsided and his soul is removed. if sasuke doesn't know which pain can revive the other paths then he has to do all his work over again and he doesnt have that much chakra.

Pain wins. This is 7 vs 1 and Nagato can use all the paths jutsu.
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This is 6 VS 1 nagato is not included lol.

But I guess no one can defeat pain alone they need to be at least 2 of them to even stand a chance.
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No there isn't!

In the end genjutsu affects the brain. It can be cast by sight or hearing, but in the end all genjutsu affects the brain. So yes pain has clearly been affected by genjutsu which allows Sasuke to cast it on him.
Yes but the effects and impact of the genjutsu will be different. It might not even work at all, given that the Rinnegan is the next step after the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan.
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