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Old 05-29-2011, 02:27 PM   #1
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How do you define it? My favorite character in the Naruto series is Shikamaru, and as a result of it I see a lot of people calling him it. 99% of the time, people misuse the term in my opinion, because they dislike the character or they see the character as weak in battle strength.

How I define fodder: A character who isn't named / has very little significance in the plot. For example, the "Screw you" ninja who Konan killed. That's an example of a fodder.

For a character like Shikamaru to be called fodder makes no sense to me. He has a background, personality, full name, killed an Akatsuki, and contributed to the Will Of Fire theme. How can a character who's fleshed out like that be fodder? Sure his significance isn't as big as other character's, but he was a important enough character to the story.

Shikamaru isn't the only character to be raped with that word. Asuma is another one.
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Old 05-29-2011, 02:29 PM   #2
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Shikamaru? He plays a major role in the plot, same with Asuma. Especially now with the Kurenai being pregnant. I want to know what happens to the baby...
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Old 05-29-2011, 02:32 PM   #3
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We likely won't find out until after the war.
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Old 05-29-2011, 02:34 PM   #4
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The 40,000 nameless losers that died in the war.
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Fodder means two things:

A character, generally nameless, that is completely useless against the vast majority of named characters and usually can do nothing or next-to-nothing in terms of the abilities available in the character's universe.

A character who actually can do something and could defeat fodder of the traditional sense but are still so useless by comparison to major characters that you dislike them enough to consider them fodder.

Karin actually isn't fodder, but she has yet to provide any majorly useful combat service and often gets in the way, and people call her fodder because they don't like her for it. Words are defined by the meaning people give them and take from them, because otherwise words are simply a series of sounds put together. For that reason, fodder has a traditional definition and a more outside definition, the latter being used more commonly to slander the character it's describing. The second definition is also used more commonly to describe a lack of fighting capability, becase the fodder-labeled Karin has actually proved useful in sensorship (pun ) and healing ability.

It's uncommon to find named characters who are fodder because most named characters have enough relevance to the story to be able to do something. In any case, Shikamaru isn't fodder by either definition. He has competent combat ability and has featured intelligence that allows him to get past people who would normally be considered less foddery characters.

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Sakura. >.>
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I thought fodder was in terms of strength. o_o.
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I agree with D330.

Fodder is usually the black sheep characters in the series as far as overall ability and relevance goes. I don't personally agree that the "screw you" ninja was fodder since he did enough through his words and awesomeness to match with TOAA. I digress.

In my opinion, fodder is a character with no viable feats or no room for envelope pushing as far as feats and power go. Example being konohamaru. Most characters move faster than he could hope to react to, and three clones with said reactions isnt going to win him battles. Ino, in example, moves faster than Kono can react to and moves a touch faster than the action speed of the brain's impulses. Rasengan is nice, however with no speed feats he might as well not have it since most any character can react to base human speeds.
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The way I understand it, fodder are all the random, unnamed characters in a series that serve no point to the plot and are easily dispatched by named characters in a combat situation. An example would be all the guards that Deidara killed when he infiltrated the Sand Village way back in the beginning of Shippuden and all the samurai's that Sasuke knocked out while training with Orochimaru.Also in this category, the characters that Luffy one-shots in One Piece, because they fail so hard against a major character that it's funny.
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Anyone who's not Naruto or Sasuke, according to Kishi.
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I'd say in the narutoverse all the ninjas that only use kunai and look like the guy that's 50 away from them. but i haven't seen alot of female fodder mostly guys... hmmm
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Shikamaru Is in NO way Fodder. He forms strategies at a moments notice!
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fodder is a nameless or very unimportant character, btw shikamaru is one of my favorites too and he is definetely not fodder, he was like the main character in the hidan/kakazu arc
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Something you feed livestock? I'm guessing.
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Tenten maybe but why Kiba?

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