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Old 12-28-2011, 11:30 AM   #81
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Sasuke has no knowledge of Minato's teleportation. If he teleports behind him, he definitely won't react to getting his head cut off by a kunai or by a simple Rasengan. Susanoo is useless against against Minato, as said before it's attacks are to slow to catch him. Sasuke won't even have time to use genjutsu. Fireballs are dodged while Sasuke wastes his chakra in Susanoo mode.
Sasuke can react to Minato.

If Minato throws a kunai at Sasuke, Sasuke will just dodge it.

Genjutsu ends this pretty quickly.

Minato can't even hurt Sasuke with susano'o.

Minato gets ammy'd.
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Sasuke can react to Minato.

If Minato throws a kunai at Sasuke, Sasuke will just dodge it.

Genjutsu ends this pretty quickly.

Minato can't even hurt Sasuke with susano'o.

Minato gets ammy'd.
Sasuke dodging kunai means that Minato will blindside him. Plus Minato can throw like 30 at a time.

Minato can just teleport inside Susanoo, or avoid it while Sasuke wastes his chakra.

Ammy is too slow. The Raikage dodged Amaterasu and he admitted Minato was faster than him.

The only chance the Sauce has is genjutsu.
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Sasuke dodging kunai means that Minato will blindside him. Plus Minato can throw like 30 at a time.

Why would Minato throw 30 kunai at Sasuke, he would most likely try to spread them across the battlefield.

Minato can just teleport inside Susanoo, or avoid it while Sasuke wastes his chakra.

How would Minato teleport inside the susano'o? His Kunai would just deflect off of the Susano'o.

Ammy is too slow. The Raikage dodged Amaterasu and he admitted Minato was faster than him.

Minato has no knowledge of ammy, the Raikage did.

The only chance the Sauce has is genjutsu.
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Minato can arguably teleport out of genjutsu, especially since Sasuke isn't really a top tier genjutsu user.
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Minato can arguably teleport out of genjutsu, especially since Sasuke isn't really a top tier genjutsu user.
How can you teleport out of genjutsu?
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He spreads them across the battlefield by throwing multiple at once. Ch. 542 page 14

He just needs kunai near Sasuke to do it. In Ch. 501 page 6 and 502 page 11 we see him warping to an area close to the kunai, but not exactly where the kunai is.

Minato can still react to ammy, and the Raikage didn't know exactly what Sasuke was gonna pull off, but he still prepared himself to dodge whatever Sasuke was going to do.
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He spreads them across the battlefield by throwing multiple at once. Ch. 542 page 14

He just needs kunai near Sasuke to do it. In Ch. 501 page 6 and 502 page 11 we see him warping to an area close to the kunai, but not exactly where the kunai is.

Minato can still react to ammy, and the Raikage didn't know exactly what Sasuke was gonna pull off, but he still prepared himself to dodge whatever Sasuke was going to do.

I didn't even recognize my own post at first
minato would still end of hitting the Susano'o not on the inside.

How would Minato react to ammy if he has no knowledge of it? Raikage has knowledge from an Itachi experience and he saw the change in Sasuke eyes which minato has no knowledge of.
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Susanoo doesnt cover your body like Raiton Armor does, its a separate entity that's summoned around you.

If he can react to a Raikage punch which is faster than Ammy, he can react to Ammy. He should have Hiraishin tags out by then

Why wouldn't Minato have knowledge of MS?
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Susanoo doesnt cover your body like Raiton Armor does, its a separate entity that's summoned around you.

If he can react to a Raikage punch which is faster than Ammy, he can react to Ammy. He should have Hiraishin tags out by then

Why wouldn't Minato have knowledge of MS?
I know but Minato would land inside of Susano'o, also Minato would try to attack the Susano'o not get inside of it especially since has no knowledge.

Ammy isn't like Raikage punches. Ammy just pops up out the blue, and since Minato doesn't have any knowledge he easily gets burned.

How would Minato have knowledge of the MS. And don't say because other Nations know it.

I'm pretty sure 98% of Konoha didn't know about until it was shown.

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Yeah, Sasuke has no way of hurting Minato. In case it isn't clear yet:

1. Minato is too fast for Sasuke to get an opportunity to genjutsu him.
2. Minato can just Hiraishin to safety and break it if hes caught.
3. Sasuke's genjutsu sucks donkey balls.
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Yeah, Sasuke has no way of hurting Minato. In case it isn't clear yet:

1. Minato is too fast for Sasuke to get an opportunity to genjutsu him.
2. Minato can just Hiraishin to safety and break it if hes caught.
3. Sasuke's genjutsu sucks donkey balls.
1.Not before he spreads his Kunai.
2.How can you teleport while in a genjutsu?
3.Sasuke is like a top 5 genjutsu user.
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I know but Minato would land inside of Susano'o, also Minato would try to attack the Susano'o not get inside of it especially since has no knowledge.

Ammy isn't like Raikage punches. Ammy just pops up out the blue, and since Minato doesn't have any knowledge he easily gets burned.

How would Minato have knowledge of the MS. And don't say because other Nations know it.

I'm pretty sure 98% of Konoha didn't know about until it was shown.
Minato would try to take caution with a giant chakra entity such as Susanoo, and if he did attack it, and he realized that it was unbreakable with his level of technique, he would think of a different way to go about it.

Ammy is just a fast projectile. In chapter 390 page 4ish it's shown following the Sauce. If the Raikage can avoid it, Minato can, especially with Hiraishin, which is instant unlike Amaterasu.

He was the Hokage of the village in which the Uchiha lived at the time, had an Uchiha student, and knew of Madara Uchiha, a famed EMS user, leading me to believe that he would know a lot of things about the Uchihas, and MS is no exception. If all else fails though, he saw everything Naruto did when his chakra was still inside him.
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we don't know what EMS can do
so we can't argue here
kishi gave sasuke EMS to be equal to naruto wich surpassed minato
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Minato would try to take caution with a giant chakra entity such as Susanoo, and if he did attack it, and he realized that it was unbreakable with his level of technique, he would think of a different way to go about it.

Ammy is just a fast projectile. In chapter 390 page 4ish it's shown following the Sauce. If the Raikage can avoid it, Minato can, especially with Hiraishin, which is instant unlike Amaterasu.

He was the Hokage of the village in which the Uchiha lived at the time, had an Uchiha student, and knew of Madara Uchiha, a famed EMS user, leading me to believe that he would know a lot of things about the Uchihas, and MS is no exception. If all else fails though, he saw everything Naruto did when his chakra was still inside him.
Itachi was going blind and couldn't keep his eye steady. Sasuke has shown to make it pop up instantly anywhere. And Sasuke has never used amaterasu against Sasuke.
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Itachi was going blind and couldn't keep his eye steady. Sasuke has shown to make it pop up instantly anywhere. And Sasuke has never used amaterasu against Sasuke.
All the same it shows that Ammy's not instant.

So I guess the Raikage can move instantly now since he dodged Amaterasu?

Do you mean Itachi never used Ammy on Sasuke? If you're wondering that, I just gave a chapter for it
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All the same it shows that Ammy's not instant.

So I guess the Raikage can move instantly now since he dodged Amaterasu?

Do you mean Itachi never used Ammy on Sasuke? If you're wondering that, I just gave a chapter for it
Sasuke's ammy is instant though he used it on the Hachibi, V2 Raikage. The reason v2 Raikage dodged was because he has knowledge.

Sasuke never used ammy on Naruto I meant.
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Yeah but the fact that he could dodge it at all means that it's not instant, I was just replying to your point that it's instant. It's just that fast.

Minato is very observant too and he has excellent timing which he showed with Tobi, he should notice something's up when Sasuke's eyes change.

Oh yeah I meant that Minato just knows about the MS in general. The Raikage didn't know everything about the Mangekyo Sharingan, but he still used "V2" to anticipate whatever was coming.
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