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[heroeking]

Originally Posted by Wooster

Yes, it can. See Chapter 502 page 8. The explosion is bigger than the mountains as you see
Don't know, but in regards to Bunta's size he much smaller than the Kyuubi. See Chapter 501. Pages 10-11. You can see Tobi as a small speck. Chapter 503 page 10. Gamabunta and people. Maybe he is 15 times taller, not much more.

Of course, the Jyuubi does shrink when half his chakra is removed.
Unlikely. Hard to say of course, because it has only been used twice. Once by Jiraiya, which was promptly sucked up. The second time by Naruto, but that was in his mind against the Kyuubi. Hard to judge any power from that. However, rasenshuriken definitely did much more damage, and even a barrage of super odama rasengans seems to have done less damage, Kyuubi blocked the super odama rasengan.
Rasenshuriken is below mountain destroying level, so it seems pretty clear so is super odama rasengan.

Thanks

[heroeking]

Originally Posted by megabbaut

Sage Naruto was 10 yards and at that distance he basically didn't have time to do anything. And Sasuke is one of the weakest characters in the manga. But I never said Neji could beat Pain, and for Lee it depends.

Also, you were the guy who was saying EMS and MS isn't the Sharingan

This is becoming a spite thread now, so I'm just going to claim victory and leave.

lol. My point proven.

[heroeking]

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

Well then why do you have the right to proove your own points in this thread when i dont?

I just did a simple google search for megabbaut and yeah.
http://naruto.viz.com/forum/showpost...2&postcount=10

I'm not proving my points. That's why I had "Mods" to end the debate.

[Nightmare Luffy]

Originally Posted by heroeking

Thanks

for what, making him misinformed and telling him to vote without all the facts?

Surely if he knew the author himself disagreed, he wouldnt make such an outrageous claim.

[heroeking]

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

for what, making him misinformed and telling him to vote without all the facts?

Surely if he knew the author himself disagreed, he wouldnt make such an outrageous claim.

*Narutoverse debates don't follow databooks*

*There's also a thing called hype*

[Super Sanin 3]

Same one who said MS Sasuke's faster than HM Jiraiya >.>

But anyways, if Heroking's done with this thread I don't see why it shouldn't be locked

[Nightmare Luffy]

Hype? Its not hype when Kishimoto himself! says something. Why dont they follow databook when it makes perfect sense isnt the reason to get a good idea of the winner of the match? How are you supposed to do that if you say everything the author himself says is irrelevant & bullcrap?

[heroeking]

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

Hype? Its not hype when Kishimoto himself! says something. Why dont they follow databook when it makes perfect sense isnt the reason to get a good idea of the winner of the match? How are you supposed to do that if you say everything the author himself says is irrelevant & bullcrap?

Kishi also said amaterasu is as hot as the sun.
Kishi also said the yata mirror blocks everything.
Kish also said the sharingan comes from the Byakugan. lol.

[heroeking]

Originally Posted by Super Sanin 3

Same one who said MS Sasuke's faster than HM Jiraiya >.>

But anyways, if Heroking's done with this thread I don't see why it shouldn't be locked

lol. You're not even in this. Atleast learn to post the right thing before you add in.

I don't know what HM Jiraiya is. lol Sage Mode. Going by the manga ms sasuke and hm Jiraiya should be around the same speed.

[megabbaut]

HM=Hermit Mode Jiraiya >_>

[Nightmare Luffy]

Originally Posted by heroeking

Kishi also said amaterasu is as hot as the sun.
Kishi also said the yata mirror blocks everything.
Kish also said the sharingan comes from the Byakugan. lol.

Um, amaterasu is as hot as the sun is a simile. You know like "Wow youre as tall as a giraffe!" If it were as hot as the sun everything in 100 mile radius would instantly be vaporized. Actually, Kishi said the yata mirror changes its jutsu affinity to defend against the incoming jutsu to make it ineffective, never once said anything about it blocking everything. Nothing contradicts sharingan coming from byakugan, actually that was said right in the manga since you like that so much.

Also I gotta go since its christmas eve and all well, I have no idea what people do on christmas eve but just in case I dont respond Ill be back to do so in a few hours.

[heroeking]

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

Um, amaterasu is as hot as the sun is a simile. You know like "Wow youre as tall as a giraffe!" If it were as hot as the sun everything in 100 mile radius would instantly be vaporized. Actually, Kishi said the yata mirror changes its jutsu affinity to defend against the incoming jutsu to make it ineffective, never once said anything about it blocking everything. Nothing contradicts sharingan coming from byakugan, actually that was said right in the manga since you like that so much.

Also I gotta go since its christmas eve and all well, I have no idea what people do on christmas eve but just in case I dont respond Ill be back to do so in a few hours.

facepalm. I guess you haven't read the manga.

The Sharingan can't come from the Byakugan because both the rinnegan and sharingan comes straight from the Sage of six paths.

chapter 393 page 9. The Yata mirror can block any attack. I rest my case.

[Nightmare Luffy]

Originally Posted by heroeking

facepalm. I guess you haven't read the manga.

The Sharingan can't come from the Byakugan because both the rinnegan and sharingan comes straight from the Sage of six paths.

chapter 393 page 9. The Yata mirror can block any attack. I rest my case.

Lol wait you actually believed that? thats how it was described in legends as the "unstoppable shield", Kishi says otherwise when he explains in himself. Thats not Kishi saying it can block any attack thats a character statement which I actually do know arent generally accepted in the BG. Zetsu can say what he wants but who are we to believe that? its a no limits fallacy you dont assume it can block any attack, even the author of the manga says it cant.

Proof that its only rinnegan and sharingan related to rikudou sennin? As far as I see its contradicted by the son with the eye has a completely different dojutsu. It could also be known as a retcon although youre wrong and it never contradicts, so its not a retcon.

[heroeking]

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

Lol wait you actually believed that? thats how it was described in legends as the "unstoppable shield", Kishi says otherwise when he explains in himself. Thats not Kishi saying it can block any attack thats a character statement which I actually do know arent generally accepted in the BG. Zetsu can say what he wants but who are we to believe that? its a no limits fallacy you dont assume it can block any attack, even the author of the manga says it cant.

Proof that its only rinnegan and sharingan related to rikudou sennin? As far as I see its contradicted by the son with the eye has a completely different dojutsu. It could also be known as a retcon although youre wrong and it never contradicts, so its not a retcon.

lol. I rest my case. There's no point in explaining that. I guess Kishi doesn't make the manga..........facepalm

[Nightmare Luffy]

? Last I checked he does, kishi isn't Zetsu. & since he does make the manga, you should have no problem with Cho Odama Rasengan being mountain busting since he said so. :)

[Itachi-Returns]

Originally Posted by heroeking

1. Tailed Beast Bomb doesn't have moutain busting/vaporizing ability.

There's a debate on whether TBB can take down mountains. I've given chapter and page to where is has shown that ability but others do not agree. What your takes on this. Chapter 414 page 7.

We havn't seen it do anything much besides wipe out Suigetsu. Well... If it hits a mountain directly, it will surely get destroyed. But it can be evaded, so what's the big deal? Of course, it is, by far, one of the strongest attacks in the series. And it can blow up a mountain. But why debate on something so obvious?

Originally Posted by heroeking

2. Snake summon bigger than the Hachibi.


There's a debate on whether this snake on Chapter 166 page 7 is Bigger than the Hachibi on page 565 page 14. I believe the Hachibi is bigger.

Manda is not bigger than the Hachibi. Neither is Manda #2. Manda 2 comes close to its sixe, but the Hachibi is larger.

Originally Posted by heroeking

3.Does the manga show Chou Odama Rasengan having moutain busting ability?


There's nothing in the manga which shows this. What's your take one it.

No. Rasenshuriken does. Not Oodama Rasengan. If it can, I'd like to see proof.

Originally Posted by heroeking

THIS IS NOT A SPITE THREAD. This thread is intended to stop overgrown debates where both opponents believe they are right.

Good. But this is all common sense if you ask me...

[Nightmare Luffy]

Alright your proof is in the third databook, Kishi says it ca hollow out an entire mountain. Satisfied?

[TheBlackChidori]

So why do you need mod input here? o.0

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

Alright your proof is in the third databook, Kishi says it ca hollow out an entire mountain. Satisfied?

Kishi also stated that Haku moves at light speed in his databooks.

Sometimes common sense (and science) trumps an author's words.

And lastly, have you guys heard of hyperbole at all?

[Nightmare Luffy]

Ive already discussed that, his justu makes him lightspeed I thought that was obvious. Is there anything else other than Amaterasu is as hot as the sun, Haku is lightspeed from the databooks that you guys think is so farfetched none of it can be considered valid even though the creator of the manga said it?