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heroeking · 12-24-2011, 07:25 AM

1. Tailed Beast Bomb doesn't have moutain busting/vaporizing ability.

There's a debate on whether TBB can take down mountains. I've given chapter and page to where is has shown that ability but others do not agree. What your takes on this. Chapter 414 page 7.

2. Snake summon bigger than the Hachibi.

There's a debate on whether this snake on Chapter 166 page 7 is Bigger than the Hachibi on page 565 page 14. I believe the Hachibi is bigger.

3.Does the manga show Chou Odama Rasengan having moutain busting ability?

There's nothing in the manga which shows this. What's your take one it.

THIS IS NOT A SPITE THREAD. This thread is intended to stop overgrown debates where both opponents believe they are right.

Kakashi11 · 12-24-2011, 07:29 AM

i do not think that Manda is bigger than the hachibi

Manda 2 is though

vonshadow · 12-24-2011, 07:29 AM

TBB can put a giant hole into more than just one mountain. It can put a hole into multiple mountains. I think that everyone is downgrading TBB because it could not punch through that barrier that surrounded the island Bee and Naruto was on.

Snake= the size of Hachibi. Why ??? Because Bunta= the size of Kyuubi. So logic would dictate that they're size are equal.

heroeking · 12-24-2011, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kakashi11

i do not think that Manda is bigger than the hachibi

Manda 2 is though

That isn't Manda.

heroeking · 12-24-2011, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by vonshadow

TBB can put a giant hole into more than just one mountain. It can put a hole into multiple mountains. I think that everyone is downgrading TBB because it could not punch through that barrier that surrounded the island Bee and Naruto was on.

Snake= the size of Hachibi. Why ??? Because Bunta= the size of Kyuubi. So logic would dictate that they're size are equal.

I'm talking about full power Hachibi. Which was even bigger than before.

Kakashi11 · 12-24-2011, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by vonshadow

TBB can put a giant hole into more than just one mountain. It can put a hole into multiple mountains. I think that everyone is downgrading TBB because it could not punch through that barrier that surrounded the island Bee and Naruto was on.

Snake= the size of Hachibi. Why ??? Because Bunta= the size of Kyuubi. So logic would dictate that they're size are equal.

im not dissagreeing with you but asking you as i do not know

how do you know bunta and kyuubi are the same size (page reference)

vonshadow · 12-24-2011, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by heroeking

I'm talking about full power Hachibi. Which was even bigger than before.

With the fight with Hebi where it shot out a multiple mountain destroying TBB ??

heroeking · 12-24-2011, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by vonshadow

With the fight with Hebi where it shot out a multiple mountain destroying TBB ??

No against Tobi and the Jinchuriki. Chapter 565 page 14. Chapter 566 page 1

vonshadow · 12-24-2011, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kakashi11

im not dissagreeing with you but asking you as i do not know

how do you know bunta and kyuubi are the same size (page reference)

Well in height he is the same, but in terms of length, the Kyuubi is longer. And Bunta= the size of Shukaku when they fought during the Konoha Invasion Arc

Kakashi11 · 12-24-2011, 07:39 AM

im guessing that shukaku is the height of hachibi
and because bunta is the same height as shukaku
bunta is the same height as hachibi

vonshadow · 12-24-2011, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by heroeking

No against Tobi and the Jinchuriki. Chapter 565 page 14. Chapter 566 page 1

I think his size was the same as his time when he fought Hebi.

heroeking · 12-24-2011, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by vonshadow

I think his size was the same as his time when he fought Hebi.

It says the Hachibi become huge and full power.

heroeking · 12-24-2011, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by vonshadow

I think his size was the same as his time when he fought Hebi.

You do know that the snake was not Manda. So If Manda was like 5times larger than that Snake. The Manda is 5 times bigger than the Hachi on those pages I gave you.

Nightmare Luffy · 12-24-2011, 08:24 AM

What? I wasnt honestly debating that the bijuu dama wasnt actually mountain busting Im jsut giving you questions you yourself cant even back up.

The argument you should have asked is : cho odama rasengan is mountain busting yes or no? despite the author himself says so.

The snake is bigger htan the Hachibi, I already gave proof about that. You didnt counter anything of it though and just acted like I was wrong. How you can actually deny whats right their in the pages truly amazes me.

vonshadow · 12-24-2011, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

What? I wasnt honestly debating that the bijuu dama wasnt actually mountain busting Im jsut giving you questions you yourself cant even back up.

The argument you should have asked is : cho odama rasengan is mountain busting yes or no? despite the author himself says so.

The snake is bigger htan the Hachibi, I already gave proof about that. You didnt counter anything of it though and just acted like I was wrong. How you can actually deny whats right their in the pages truly amazes me.

Could you give the page to see the size of the snake??? just curious. thank you

heroeking · 12-24-2011, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by vonshadow

Could you give the page to see the size of the snake??? just curious. thank you

Chapter 166 page 7

Nightmare Luffy · 12-24-2011, 08:33 AM

Sure chapter 166 page 7. Orochimaru stands on his head that's the dot that you see. Then he summoned manda later and is exactly the same, when you compare anyone to Hachibi theres the same size difference.

Not too mention, Shukaku and Gamabunta were the same size as the hachibi thats being claimed is so big, chapter 135 page 2 for reference. The snakes bigger than Hachibi or at least the same size no questions asked, the way anyone denies it is pretty ridiculous imo.

It was also based on the question "Yomi Numa cant be any bigger despite everything pointing towards it like Jriaiya being drugged and calling it such a small swamp, we cant just assume things when its not shown on screen".

What im interested in isnt the size, but the fact Cho Odama Rasengan is clearly mountain busting, I have absolute no idea why anyone would argue with what the author says himself & say its not valid.

heroeking · 12-24-2011, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

What? I wasnt honestly debating that the bijuu dama wasnt actually mountain busting Im jsut giving you questions you yourself cant even back up.

The argument you should have asked is : cho odama rasengan is mountain busting yes or no? despite the author himself says so.

The snake is bigger htan the Hachibi, I already gave proof about that. You didnt counter anything of it though and just acted like I was wrong. How you can actually deny whats right their in the pages truly amazes me.

I countered you like 3 times already. You're post farming or just being an idiot.

Nightmare Luffy · 12-24-2011, 08:35 AM

Theres no need to flame, again..I guess nobodys able to debate maturely around here. You didnt counter my points at all actually, youre being childish & claiming that you countered them when you actually didnt. If you did though you can post from the other thread what exactly you prooved wrong since Im interested in it myself.

megabbaut · 12-24-2011, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by heroeking

I countered you like 3 times already. You're post farming or just being an idiot.

Whenever heroeking acts like this, it's a sign that he is admitting defeat.

Especially when he starts calling everyone a troll.

Btw:

12-24-2011, 07:25 AM	#1
heroeking Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: u.s. Posts: 1,766 Rep Power: 0	For Debates Sake - Mods 1. Tailed Beast Bomb doesn't have moutain busting/vaporizing ability. There's a debate on whether TBB can take down mountains. I've given chapter and page to where is has shown that ability but others do not agree. What your takes on this. Chapter 414 page 7. 2. Snake summon bigger than the Hachibi. There's a debate on whether this snake on Chapter 166 page 7 is Bigger than the Hachibi on page 565 page 14. I believe the Hachibi is bigger. 3.Does the manga show Chou Odama Rasengan having moutain busting ability? There's nothing in the manga which shows this. What's your take one it. THIS IS NOT A SPITE THREAD. This thread is intended to stop overgrown debates where both opponents believe they are right. Last edited by heroeking; 12-24-2011 at 08:35 AM.

12-24-2011, 07:29 AM	#2
Kakashi11 Chunin Exam Participant Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Jersey, UK Posts: 650 Rep Power: 4	Re: For Debates Sake - Mods i do not think that Manda is bigger than the hachibi Manda 2 is though __________________ "In the ninja world, those who break the rules are trash, that's true, but those who abandon their comrades are worse than trash, and the ones who don't treasure their friends feelings are even worse than that" Kakashi Hatake What Is Better Naruto Or Bleach? I've Never Used Naruto. Does it get your laundry white? PSN- Knapers Fav Character- Kakashi Hatake Least Fav Character- Sasugay Uchiha

12-24-2011, 07:29 AM	#3
vonshadow Master Debater Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Hidden MapleLeaf Village Posts: 1,243 Rep Power: 8	Re: For Debates Sake - Mods TBB can put a giant hole into more than just one mountain. It can put a hole into multiple mountains. I think that everyone is downgrading TBB because it could not punch through that barrier that surrounded the island Bee and Naruto was on. Snake= the size of Hachibi. Why ??? Because Bunta= the size of Kyuubi. So logic would dictate that they're size are equal. __________________ The Village Hidden in the Jungle Shinobi of The Village Hidden in the Jungle "Becoming a jinchūriki, you can lose a lot, and your heart goes hollow, but if you got things you don't want to lose, they become a light to follow! The tailed beasts aren't our only source of strength! What was inside our hearts before the monster... shines like a sun, powers us to any length! That's where our true power comes from!" - Killer Bee " Cool head, agile mind." - Shikaku Nara

12-24-2011, 07:39 AM	#10
Kakashi11 Chunin Exam Participant Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Jersey, UK Posts: 650 Rep Power: 4	Re: For Debates Sake - Mods im guessing that shukaku is the height of hachibi and because bunta is the same height as shukaku bunta is the same height as hachibi __________________ "In the ninja world, those who break the rules are trash, that's true, but those who abandon their comrades are worse than trash, and the ones who don't treasure their friends feelings are even worse than that" Kakashi Hatake What Is Better Naruto Or Bleach? I've Never Used Naruto. Does it get your laundry white? PSN- Knapers Fav Character- Kakashi Hatake Least Fav Character- Sasugay Uchiha

12-24-2011, 08:24 AM	#14
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12-24-2011, 08:33 AM	#17
Nightmare Luffy Chunin Exam Participant Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: i̫͢d͖̟͍͙̩̝͙ͩͪͩ͗ͪ̽̋k Posts: 735 Rep Power: 8 Member's Picture Albums	Re: For Debates Sake - Mods Sure chapter 166 page 7. Orochimaru stands on his head that's the dot that you see. Then he summoned manda later and is exactly the same, when you compare anyone to Hachibi theres the same size difference. Not too mention, Shukaku and Gamabunta were the same size as the hachibi thats being claimed is so big, chapter 135 page 2 for reference. The snakes bigger than Hachibi or at least the same size no questions asked, the way anyone denies it is pretty ridiculous imo. It was also based on the question "Yomi Numa cant be any bigger despite everything pointing towards it like Jriaiya being drugged and calling it such a small swamp, we cant just assume things when its not shown on screen". What im interested in isnt the size, but the fact Cho Odama Rasengan is clearly mountain busting, I have absolute no idea why anyone would argue with what the author says himself & say its not valid. __________________ dGhlIHdvcmQgRlVDSyBpcyBhZ2Fp bnN0IHRoZSBydWxlcyBidXQ gaXMgaXQgb2sgaWYg SSBwdXQgaXQgaW4 gY29kZSBsaWtlIH RoaXM/IDpQ

12-24-2011, 08:35 AM	#19
Nightmare Luffy Chunin Exam Participant Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: i̫͢d͖̟͍͙̩̝͙ͩͪͩ͗ͪ̽̋k Posts: 735 Rep Power: 8 Member's Picture Albums	Re: For Debates Sake - Mods Theres no need to flame, again..I guess nobodys able to debate maturely around here. You didnt counter my points at all actually, youre being childish & claiming that you countered them when you actually didnt. If you did though you can post from the other thread what exactly you prooved wrong since Im interested in it myself. __________________ dGhlIHdvcmQgRlVDSyBpcyBhZ2Fp bnN0IHRoZSBydWxlcyBidXQ gaXMgaXQgb2sgaWYg SSBwdXQgaXQgaW4 gY29kZSBsaWtlIH RoaXM/IDpQ

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