Yugito vs. Tsunade

[Kuromaki]

No Sharinnegan or Edo Tensei for yugito. Who wins?

[vonshadow]

Well I want to say Yugito, but somehow I think that Tsunade might just edge Yugito in this with her Creation Rebirth which will regenerate Tsunade after every hit. Then there is summoning Katsuya which probably can take down Nii's full tailed beast form with its acid. Then there is Tsunade's chakra enhanced super strength that will be able to knock Yugito possibly all the way back to Kumo

[Nightmare Luffy]

Tsunade wins because Yugito doesn't have anything to put Tsunade down. , when she even slightly touches Yugito with even a finger, she's down, and I can rely on Tsunade landing at least one hit. Yugito has not been all that impressive yet.

[vonshadow]

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

Tsunade wins because Yugito doesn't have anything to put Tsunade down. , when she even slightly touches Yugito with even a finger, she's down, and I can rely on Tsunade landing at least one hit. Yugito has not been all that impressive yet.

I beg to differ, Yugito has been quite impressive. She can go to V2 tailes beast form, have guided missile attacks, can extend her claws and finally go to full tail beast form.

Tsunade takes this, but only by a small inch.

[heroeking]

Tsunade loses horribly. No way Tsunade is getting away from guided fire missiles. No way Tsunade dodges a v2 blitz. No way Tsunade defeats full form beats mode. Katsuya gets burned to death. Tsuande can't heal herself forever.

[vonshadow]

Originally Posted by heroeking

Tsunade loses horribly. No way Tsunade is getting away from guided fire missiles. No way Tsunade dodges a v2 blitz. No way Tsunade defeats full form beats mode. Katsuya gets burned to death. Tsuande can't heal herself forever.

I beg to differ, I think she is fast enough to get away from that attack. She showed she was pretty fast when she saved Bunta from Manda by getting Bunta's sword as well as jamming it down Manda's mouth. Katsuya can just use division and just reconstitute herself, pus I think that Katsuya can smother Yugito to death.

[heroeking]

Originally Posted by vonshadow

I beg to differ, I think she is fast enough to get away from that attack. She showed she was pretty fast when she saved Bunta from Manda by getting Bunta's sword as well as jamming it down Manda's mouth. Katsuya can just use division and just reconstitute herself, pus I think that Katsuya can smother Yugito to death.

She blindsided Manda. Any Ninja could easily do the same with her strength. That wasn't a speed feat, more of a strength feat. Splitting wouldn't do anything if she was on fire. Actually it would be worse because the smaller the slugs are, the faster they would become consumed in flames. Also v2 Yugito tares right through Katsuya with ease.

[vonshadow]

Originally Posted by heroeking

She blindsided Manda. Any Ninja could easily do the same with her strength. That wasn't a speed feat, more of a strength feat. Splitting wouldn't do anything if she was on fire. Actually it would be worse because the smaller the slugs are, the faster they would become consumed in flames. Also v2 Yugito tares right through Katsuya with ease.

katsuya can regenerate so there isnt a huge problem. plus its not just a strength feat, it is also a speed feat. She covered a huge distance with a giant sword that was the size of a 10 story building and jammed it down Manda's mouth. Not only was she fast enough to reach Bunta, but she was also strong enough. Plus the ability to survive light speed teleportation is also a feat

[Nightmare Luffy]

Originally Posted by vonshadow

I beg to differ, Yugito has been quite impressive. She can go to V2 tailes beast form, have guided missile attacks, can extend her claws and finally go to full tail beast form.

Tsunade takes this, but only by a small inch.

Yes, but the V2 can only be as strong as the full bijuu itself. You can not compare it to KN4 levels of chakra or similar when it only can have a maximum of 2 tails, and the full tailed beast itself was much weaker if you have read how it performed against Hidan alone.

Originally Posted by heroeking

Tsunade loses horribly. No way Tsunade is getting away from guided fire missiles. No way Tsunade dodges a v2 blitz. No way Tsunade defeats full form beats mode. Katsuya gets burned to death. Tsuande can't heal herself forever.

I am not really going to get into this if you honestly think Tsunade loses horribly to a much weaker jinchuuriki. I don't really see V2 blitzing, but if you really want to back that up in some way then i'm here. Your other arguments have no backup to them either and I'll address them.

-Full form is extremely inconsequential and was much weaker than the other bijuu we have seen, as I said to vonshadow I notice people think V2 increases the persons power by so much. Enough for Tsunade to lose horribly apparently. This is not true, it does not raise her power to that high levels of chakra. The V2 cannot be stronger than the actual bijuu.

-Her full form as I said was nowhere near as impressive as we can even assume when compared to the other bijuu. Nine tails is stronger than all of the other bijuu combined and the bijuu in Naruto is only half the nine-tails power.

-Her fire missiles when Tsunade's technique is too powerful for Yugito to bypass. She cant hurt Tsunade in this form and she can not hurt Katsuyu either. Your way of claiming this is silly from what Katsuyu is shown, but again I have seen no support from these statements.

-Healing herself forever, again this is silly you act like the battle will be much longer and Tsunade has nothing going for her when this is not true, one simple touch from Tsunade and Yugito will no longer be able to fight.

-Again I am not really going to get into this much if you honestly think Katsuyu will be easily burned to death, and Tsunade loses horribly. But I really want you to post pages for these especially as I can't see V2 blitzing like you claim. If anyone will lose horribly it is definitely Yugito.

[vonshadow]

Yes, but the V2 can only be as strong as the full bijuu itself. You can not compare it to KN4 levels of chakra or similar when it only can have a maximum of 2 tails, and the full tailed beast itself was much weaker if you have read how it performed against Hidan alone.

The performance against Hidan was bad because Hidan cannot die. I am sure that Yugito was good when they fought. Yugito in V2 managed to catch RS naruto off guard; although i think that has to do with Sharirinegan eyes.

Yugito got defeated because she fought immortals, and by the time she figured that out, it was too late

[TheBlackChidori]

Not going to take part in this debate.

But you guys are pulling most of these Yugito feats out of nowhere... she has almost none. And putting her over Tsunade with no feats except for Jinchi cloak blitzing with 5 others?

People forget that she's the woman who pounded Orochimaru into submission, when he casually tanked a facepunch from 4-tailed Naruto and came back smiling and unbruised.

[heroeking]

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

Yes, but the V2 can only be as strong as the full bijuu itself. You can not compare it to KN4 levels of chakra or similar when it only can have a maximum of 2 tails, and the full tailed beast itself was much weaker if you have read how it performed against Hidan alone.

I am not really going to get into this if you honestly think Tsunade loses horribly to a much weaker jinchuuriki. I don't really see V2 blitzing, but if you really want to back that up in some way then i'm here. Your other arguments have no backup to them either and I'll address them.

-Full form is extremely inconsequential and was much weaker than the other bijuu we have seen, as I said to vonshadow I notice people think V2 increases the persons power by so much. Enough for Tsunade to lose horribly apparently. This is not true, it does not raise her power to that high levels of chakra. The V2 cannot be stronger than the actual bijuu.

-Her full form as I said was nowhere near as impressive as we can even assume when compared to the other bijuu. Nine tails is stronger than all of the other bijuu combined and the bijuu in Naruto is only half the nine-tails power.

-Her fire missiles when Tsunade's technique is too powerful for Yugito to bypass. She cant hurt Tsunade in this form and she can not hurt Katsuyu either. Your way of claiming this is silly from what Katsuyu is shown, but again I have seen no support from these statements.

-Healing herself forever, again this is silly you act like the battle will be much longer and Tsunade has nothing going for her when this is not true, one simple touch from Tsunade and Yugito will no longer be able to fight.

-Again I am not really going to get into this much if you honestly think Katsuyu will be easily burned to death, and Tsunade loses horribly. But I really want you to post pages for these especially as I can't see V2 blitzing like you claim. If anyone will lose horribly it is definitely Yugito.

v2 Blitz Naruto which hurt Naruto.

Naruto is the fastest in the manga with one of the highest reaction feats in the manga.

Naruto tanked a Raikage punch with no damage.

In the "Recent Chapter" v2 Yugito "Blitzed" Rikudou Naruto......

/the end. Tsunade has no reaction or speed feats even worth mentioning to this. Tsunade dies. If she tries to heal herself she gets blitzed again.

[321zigzag3]

The only thing impressive of Yugito is with V2 form.

Her regular tailed form does amp her stats but it was only because Sharingan and Rinnegan that she was able to initially Base Killerbee a bit.

This thread really is just V2 Yugito vs Tsunade.

[Nightmare Luffy]

Originally Posted by vonshadow

The performance against Hidan was bad because Hidan cannot die. I am sure that Yugito was good when they fought. Yugito in V2 managed to catch RS naruto off guard; although i think that has to do with Sharirinegan eyes.

Yugito got defeated because she fought immortals, and by the time she figured that out, it was too late

You should re-check chapter 312 and 313, she is not nearly as powerful is everyone in this thread is exaggerating. Page 18 of that chapter also reinforces my point as they're both unscathed and having a conversation aside from Hidan, whose only wound is from stabbing himself of course.

Hitting Naruto enforces the power of a team. Because the other jinchuriki were busy with Naruto she was able to go behind him and get a hit in.

Originally Posted by TheBlackChidori

Not going to take part in this debate.

But you guys are pulling most of these Yugito feats out of nowhere... she has almost none. And putting her over Tsunade with no feats except for Jinchi cloak blitzing with 5 others?

People forget that she's the woman who pounded Orochimaru into submission, when he casually tanked a facepunch from 4-tailed Naruto and came back smiling and unbruised.

Thank you TBC for being one to not underrate Tsunade and realize Yugito will not horribly defeat a kage level ninja who one touch finishes Yugito off. & maybe the Jonin level ninja at best has nothing to put her down.

Originally Posted by heroeking

v2 Blitz Naruto which hurt Naruto.

Naruto is the fastest in the manga with one of the highest reaction feats in the manga.

Naruto tanked a Raikage punch with no damage.

In the "Recent Chapter" v2 Yugito "Blitzed" Rikudou Naruto......

This is, because I noted with vonshadow the power of a team, in a normal 1 on 1 fight do you really think Yugito would be able to land a hit on RM Naruto.

/the end. Tsunade has no reaction or speed feats even worth mentioning to this. Tsunade dies. If she tries to heal herself she gets blitzed again.

I am really not going to get into this if you really think her healing from what chapter 168 and 69 did to her, getting repeatedly slashed apart and stabbed through the heart is less than what Yugito can do especially if we are considering recent chapters and her getting literally ripped apart at the bone. Katsuyu only adds to this if you honestly believe Katsuyu gets burned to death like you said then i have nothing more to say on that subject.

and Zigzag, I would normally agree but I think that you're thinking of V2 form as something much more powerful than her actual bijuu is really capable of. As I said it doesnt give higher levels of chakra than the bijuu itself can and its just a form thats more powerful than the "initial" form and base form, its not stronger than the actual bijuu obviously.

[321zigzag3]

So NL where have you been?

Yugito unlike Killerbee never fully mastered her bijuu powers. Also I am pretty sure V2 is not created equal but there is going to some set standard.

There both dangerous in their own ways obviously Bijuu is stronger but sometimes V2 is more suited to fight something.
Anyway this thread is really only just V2 Yugito vs Tsunade.

[Nightmare Luffy]

Oh I was always under the impression that since she was from kumogakure and she and KB were friends, that she had went through the same tailer beast taming that Bee did, tbh her controlling the bijuu or not might really help her or hurt her here. But its not like she would win either way, really helping in this case might be lasting a few more seconds, but the two tails wouldnt be in a mindless rage at least. :P

Dont know just went on the computer and decided to post after awhile, been busy I guess.

Well V2 again its not like its stronger than the bijuu itself, & if we take speed into account just put the two tails to scale, itd be able to go much longer distance but V2 or not, its not like Tsunade wouldnt win this.

[321zigzag3]

Yugito did go through the same training but she never fully mastered hers.

Databook states it.

Hidan indirectly mentions it when he says the Nibi looked rather smaller than he thought it would.

[Nightmare Luffy]

Oh ok, hmm I guess she really has more of a disadvantage here either way but, tsunade's style of fighting is key for beating Yugito and it's pretty efficient for killing anyone really.

[vonshadow]

You should re-check chapter 312 and 313, she is not nearly as powerful is everyone in this thread is exaggerating. Page 18 of that chapter also reinforces my point as they're both unscathed and having a conversation aside from Hidan, whose only wound is from stabbing himself of course.

Hitting Naruto enforces the power of a team. Because the other jinchuriki were busy with Naruto she was able to go behind him and get a hit in.

Like I said before she is good but not as good as Tsunade. Ima a Tsunade for this. But I just one to say that she fought immortals, that is why she lost. Any normal shinobi would not be able to tank a giant fireball taken at point blank; with exception to A, any Uchiha with a Sussanoo and Nagato

Im Tsunade for this battle

[Nightmare Luffy]

Originally Posted by vonshadow

Like I said before she is good but not as good as Tsunade. Ima a Tsunade for this. But I just one to say that she fought immortals, that is why she lost. Any normal shinobi would not be able to tank a giant fireball taken at point blank; with exception to A, any Uchiha with a Sussanoo and Nagato

Im Tsunade for this battle

I'm aware youre for Tsunade but it doesnt make your other points right. Hidan was able to dodge the fireball he didnt tank it, & the reason I gave you the name of those chapter were to see Hidan and Kakuzu came out unscratched after the fight. I think a giant fireball would leave some marks or Nibi landing hits at all would appear on them but maybe thats just me.