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[ReMiX613]

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

Except Susanoo as you agreed is a solid wall. Not only is it much more durable than a regular wall, but if you take a sword and slash at said wall, it will do a lot less than a gunshot, which is piercing damage. Considering Danzo's attacks couldnt do much to Sasuke's suasnoo despite being slicing fuuton tend to give more idea of its durability in any case even though its not the best.

Theres still all those other feats I gave you know, that are totally valid I feel youre just ignoring.

Don't get me wrong, I am not ignoring any feats, I am just looking for the feats that have DECENT cutting power. And we don't know how strong Danzo's fuuton's are. We don't know if it can slice steel or not is what I'm trying to say.

Originally Posted by Uchiha_Sora

Except Zoro's crazy strength>bullets....

And all of those feats were for other Susano'os. Why are we even debating this if Sasuke gets cut into pieces right from the start?

nah, the only FRS was absorbed by Preta path

Hm, I guess you're right, why are we debating about this?

[Towerworld]

Originally Posted by ReMiX613

The FRS did not cut through miles of rock in less than a second ever in the manga and if so, give me scans.
AND Madara's Susanoo never even faced an FRS -_-
Actually, in fact no one's Susanoo ever faced an FRS yet.

Here, while the the whole distance didn't have rocks to cut a good portion did, maybe 10% so about a single mile maybe a bit less.
I guess i was wrong about The susanoo blocking that hmm. But anyways it did block Kirin which destroyed nearly a mountain worth of rock.
EDIT: I forgot to put an actualy scan for cutting in there, here

[ReMiX613]

Originally Posted by Towerworld

Here, while the the whole distance didn't have rocks to cut a good portion did, maybe 10% so about a single mile maybe a bit less.
I guess i was wrong about The susanoo blocking that hmm. But anyways it did block Kirin which destroyed nearly a mountain worth of rock.

Thank you for the useful link
And that was more of a hill than a mountain and it was a hallow building so it was easier to get destroyed than an actually hill of rick.

[Nightmare Luffy]

Originally Posted by Uchiha_Sora

Except Zoro's crazy strength>bullets....

And all of those feats were for other Susano'os. Why are we even debating this if Sasuke gets cut into pieces right from the start?

nah, the only FRS was absorbed by Preta path

Sasuke has the combined Susanoo of Itachi and Sasuke. You in no way have shown feats on Zoro's part that prove him so much faster than Sasuke that he'll blitz at the start, nor that his slashes are stronger than bullets(since his sword isnt piercing power, his slashes dont>lightning).

You just expect me to accept this, well until I see serious feats or pages that Zoro is able to "cut Sasuke into pieces right from the start" before he can initiate Susanoo or even think about whats happening there's no way I'm going to do that.

Don't get me wrong, I am not ignoring any feats, I am just looking for the feats that have DECENT cutting power. And we don't know how strong Danzo's fuuton's are. We don't know if it can slice steel or not is what I'm trying to say.

We don't, what we know is its slicing power and unless for some reason a slash with a sword does more damage than literal lightning still no able to pierce through it.

[Towerworld]

Originally Posted by ReMiX613

Thank you for the useful link
And that was more of a hill than a mountain and it was a hallow building so it was easier to get destroyed than an actually hill of rick.

1. Read my edit.
2. close to a mountain 717,085,724.502m^3:
3. Prove interior of the Hill was hollow.

[ReMiX613]

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

Sasuke has the combined Susanoo of Itachi and Sasuke. You in no way have shown feats on Zoro's part that prove him so much faster than Sasuke that he'll blitz at the start, nor that his slashes are stronger than bullets(since his sword isnt piercing power, his slashes dont>lightning).

You just expect me to accept this, well until I see serious feats or pages that Zoro is able to "cut Sasuke into pieces right from the start" before he can initiate Susanoo or even think about whats happening there's no way I'm going to do that.
We don't, what we know is its slicing power and unless for some reason a slash with a sword does more damage than literal lightning still no able to pierce through it.

Possibly, the only reason why Itachi's Susanoo was capable of surviving Kirin is because of his Yata Shield. I'm not saying it is 100% the only reason, I'm just saying that it's more likely.
It depends how strong the slash from the sword is and who's doing it.
I mean Mihawk, casually sliced a Mountain sized iceberg from 100's of meters away, and he didn't even try to cut it, he was only focusing on cutting Luffy in half. Meaning him trying to cut a person in half, is the very same cut that would cut a mountain sized iceberg like nothing

Originally Posted by Towerworld

1. Read my edit.
2. close to a mountain 717,085,724.502m^3:
3. Prove interior of the Hill was hollow.

The interior of the hill was hollow because right below where Itachi's Susanoo tanked Kirin was where Itachi and Sasuke were having their genjutsu battle.
Also, you can see the external parts of the Hill exploding out due to Kirin hitting the middle of the hill.
The external parts indicate that the hill was not completely all rock.


The Hill: As you can see the last panel of the page:


And then inside:

[Towerworld]

Originally Posted by ReMiX613

Also, you can see the external parts of the Hill exploding out due to Kirin hitting the middle of the hill.
The external parts indicate that the hill was not completely all rock.


The Hill: As you can see the last panel of the page:


And then inside:

hmm i guess the Hill is atleast partly hollow then. Nonetheless, it was still quite impressive and susanoo's yata mirror wasn't used to block it either.

[ReMiX613]

Originally Posted by Towerworld

hmm i guess the Hill is atleast partly hollow then. Nonetheless, it was still quite impressive and susanoo's yata mirror wasn't used to block it either.

Yes it was impressive.
And we don't know that for sure, whether or not Yata's mirror was used since it wasn't shown.

[Towerworld]

Originally Posted by ReMiX613

Yes it was impressive.
And we don't know that for sure, whether or not Yata's mirror was used since it wasn't shown.

well when it reformed it appeared that only the skeleton was summoned.

[ReMiX613]

Originally Posted by Towerworld

well when it reformed it appeared that only the skeleton was summoned.

Really? Hmm guess i missed that part.Anyways gtg sleep, tired.

[Nightmare Luffy]

Originally Posted by ReMiX613

Possibly, the only reason why Itachi's Susanoo was capable of surviving Kirin is because of his Yata Shield. I'm not saying it is 100% the only reason, I'm just saying that it's more likely.
It depends how strong the slash from the sword is and who's doing it.
I mean Mihawk, casually sliced a Mountain sized iceberg from 100's of meters away, and he didn't even try to cut it, he was only focusing on cutting Luffy in half. Meaning him trying to cut a person in half, is the very same cut that would cut a mountain sized iceberg like nothing

Well as I said. Sasuke has Itachi's eyes and all the jutsu that entails, he has his susanoo topped with his own, if anything that includes the shield. Susanoo is very emphasized with massive defense nonetheless as I showed when I gave posts of all those feats at the beginning.

[Uchiha Sora]

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

Sasuke has the combined Susanoo of Itachi and Sasuke. You in no way have shown feats on Zoro's part that prove him so much faster than Sasuke that he'll blitz at the start, nor that his slashes are stronger than bullets(since his sword isnt piercing power, his slashes dont>lightning).

I'm sorry. I assumed that you read One Piece. You know, that manga where Zoro casually cuts steel(DazBones), extremely durable cyborgs(Tanked multiple attacks from the crew PTS, and ZOro one shotted it TS..),and puts wholes in tidal waves early PTS... yeah. that manga.

And he blitzed the pacifista(when he cleaved it in two), who kept up with G2 Luffy PTS IIRC.

[Nightmare Luffy]

Originally Posted by Uchiha_Sora

I'm sorry. I assumed that you read One Piece. You know, that manga where Zoro casually cuts steel(DazBones), extremely durable cyborgs(Tanked multiple attacks from the crew PTS, and ZOro one shotted it TS..),and puts wholes in tidal waves early PTS... yeah. that manga.

And he blitzed the pacifista(when he cleaved it in two), who kept up with G2 Luffy PTS IIRC.

I said specific pages, I'm not sure if you were laughing at me or were actually serious but I wouldnt be posting in this thread if I didnt read One Piece.

If I dont get actual pages to refresh theres absolutely no way I'm accepting Zoro's ability to blitz Sasuke before he can do anything. From what I recall his serious on panel speed is nowhere near as impressive or relevant as you guys are making it out to be.

& I still dont see how cutting steel and some things stronger than steel (maybe) is relevant and proves the ability to cutting through something much much stronger.

[Rasengan SageX5]

We don't really know exactly how much stronger than steel a normal Susanoo is. Itachi's was well defended because of the Yata Mirror(said to be unbreakable) and parts of Sasuke's were being cracked by attacks from Kage level opponents(when the Raikage cracked a few of the ribs with a kick and the Mizukage's acid mist melted a few of the ribs). The only way I see Susanoo standing up to current Zoro's attacks is if Sasuke somehow has the Yata Mirror(which, unless I'm mistaken, we don't know if he has it or not), with repeated attacks of that strength some part of Susanoo will give eventually or Sasuke would just run out of chakra and get his head cut off at that point.

[Uchiha Sora]

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

I said specific pages, I'm not sure if you were laughing at me or were actually serious but I wouldnt be posting in this thread if I didnt read One Piece.

If I dont get actual pages to refresh theres absolutely no way I'm accepting Zoro's ability to blitz Sasuke before he can do anything. From what I recall his serious on panel speed is nowhere near as impressive or relevant as you guys are making it out to be.

& I still dont see how cutting steel and some things stronger than steel (maybe) is relevant and proves the ability to cutting through something much much stronger.

Damn. I have the picture/panel but I don't know what chapter its from. Maybe i could PM it. Well Zoro is blitzing Hody underwater, and right before that Usopp's like "fighting fishmen underwater is suicide" o_o And we all know how strong fishmen are underwater

He doesn't even need to blitz. Sasuke won't be using any of his MS techniques off the bat anyways. Zoro's strength is leagues above Sasuke's. If they engage in a sword fight, Zoro would slice right through him if Sasuke tries to block.

Susano'o is irrelevant really since Sasuke won't be using it... since its currently OoC

[Nightmare Luffy]

Yeah you can PM it, I'm always here.

I just wanted specific feats that prove Zoro actually has the capability of blitzing the guy whos as fast as the pics I gave last page, before hes able to even think.

Danzo slashed ahim with his sword, & to defend he activated Susano'o. Especially with EMS now, Sasuke uses MS techniques when he' sreally in character so I dont think thats a problem either way. He should use it off the bat like he did literally as soon as he took off his bandages. I don't think that would be Out of character for him considering when he used it recently. As I said, literally the moment his bandages off the first technique activated was Susanoo.

[ReMiX613]

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

Yeah you can PM it, I'm always here.

I just wanted specific feats that prove Zoro actually has the capability of blitzing the guy whos as fast as the pics I gave last page, before hes able to even think.

Danzo slashed ahim with his sword, & to defend he activated Susano'o. Especially with EMS now, Sasuke uses MS techniques when he' sreally in character so I dont think thats a problem either way. He should use it off the bat like he did literally as soon as he took off his bandages. I don't think that would be Out of character for him considering when he used it recently. As I said, literally the moment his bandages off the first technique activated was Susanoo.

Originally Posted by Nightmare Luffy

I said specific pages, I'm not sure if you were laughing at me or were actually serious but I wouldnt be posting in this thread if I didnt read One Piece.

If I dont get actual pages to refresh theres absolutely no way I'm accepting Zoro's ability to blitz Sasuke before he can do anything. From what I recall his serious on panel speed is nowhere near as impressive or relevant as you guys are making it out to be.

& I still dont see how cutting steel and some things stronger than steel (maybe) is relevant and proves the ability to cutting through something much much stronger.

You never proved, that Susanoo has a great cutting durability.
A)Yata Mirror/Shield was most likely the only reason why Itachi survived
B)Sasuke has never been shown yet with the Yata Shield.
C)EMS Sasuke is featless.
D)What do you mean by:"how cutting steel and some things stronger than steel (maybe)"?
If you are implying that a Pacifista's durability is not stronger than steel then i give up.

[Nightmare Luffy]

Originally Posted by ReMiX613

You never proved, that Susanoo has a great cutting durability.
A)Yata Mirror/Shield was most likely the only reason why Itachi survived
B)Sasuke has never been shown yet with the Yata Shield.
C)EMS Sasuke is featless.
D)What do you mean by:"how cutting steel and some things stronger than steel (maybe)"?
If you are implying that a Pacifista's durability is not stronger than steel then i give up.

Yes he did chapter 553 page 15 the page his EMS was revealed. Madara prooved this when his EMS was the combined version of his brothers and had 2 Susanoo. What part arent you getting when Sasuke literally combines his eyes with Itachis, not to mention the Totsuka is there too.

EMS Sasuke is featless, fortunately his much weaker MS has much more feats and so does Itachis amazing MS which Sasuke also has combined into ma much stronger version.

Im just saying after repeatedly asking for pages from stuff from you guys, especially the fact Zoro does something like blitz Sasuke before he can react is ridiculous and I'm not gonna just accept stuff like that without feats. Ive given multiple page numbers actually, you guys--zero.

[Towerworld]

We can't prove that sasuke's susanoo will have yata mirror. But you guy's are seriously lying if you claim he won't have it because you know he will :P.

[Cyl]

...you guys are nuts just posting Viz manga back and forth through here. It's against the rules.