Hiashi, Neji & Hinata VS Itachi, Sasuke & Obito

[[Shikamaru]]

Originally Posted by megabbaut

You're saying Sasuke can rape SOSP, the strongest character in the Narutoverse?

Chapter 257 page 4.

You know, if I'm constantly providing evidence like this then I'm nowhere near what you say I am.

Also, they can look wherever they want. Their X-ray vision cannot look into Sharingan eyes, and even if their looking down they have 360-degree vision. In that scenario comes a Kaiten.

No comment.

I see Sakura looking at Itachi's hands, therefore she is now Amy'd. Either that or put into finger Genjutsu.

Are you? I've literally never seen you post a single good feature.

Not really. 360 vision does not equate reaction or even the ability to perceive the speed on the level of above sonic.

Ask a man if they noticed a bullet coming toward them, before they were shot.

[vonshadow]

Originally Posted by [Shikamaru]

Reported.

There's no scenario I could wank Sasuke enough in this battle, honestly.

I could name him the new god of the universe in this battle.

Chapter, page?

Trust me bud, you're the worst thing in quite some time. I placed you on the list out of pity.

Neji: "LOOK DOWN! THEY HAVE GENJUTSU"

Itachi: "Lolwtf?" *lights them on fire*

Hahaha I laughed so hard when I read the two last lines. No way the Hyuugas can combat the Uchihas with their eyes looking down. I dont think they even can. Gai said he trained for years to master the use of that technique. Plus even Jonin shinobi like Asuma and Kurenai said it was easier said then done.

How is the Hyuuga's Juken going to work when they look down and cannot see the enemy's chakra points???

[[Shikamaru]]

Originally Posted by vonshadow

Hahaha I laughed so hard when I read the two last lines. No way the Hyuugas can combat the Uchihas with their eyes looking down. I dont think they even can. Gai said he trained for years to master the use of that technique. Plus even Jonin shinobi like Asuma and Kurenai said it was easier said then done.

How is the Hyuuga's Juken going to work when they look down and cannot see the enemy's chakra points???

You don't know how many times I've told him this, dude.

Now you understand the level of his wank.

[megabbaut]

Originally Posted by [Shikamaru]

You don't know how many times I've told him this, dude.

Now you understand the level of his wank.

Unlike Gai, they have the Byakugan which lets them see all around their surroundings. So they don't have to train at all.

Just wank this, wank that. You don't have anything else to say, do you?

[[Shikamaru]]

Originally Posted by megabbaut

Unlike Gai, they have the Byakugan which lets them see all around their surroundings. So they don't have to train at all.

Just wank this, wank that. You don't have anything else to say, do you?

Originally Posted by [Shikamaru]

No comment.

I see Sakura looking at Itachi's hands, therefore she is now Amy'd. Either that or put into finger Genjutsu.

Are you? I've literally never seen you post a single good feature.

Not really. 360 vision does not equate reaction or even the ability to perceive the speed on the level of above sonic.

Ask a man if they noticed a bullet coming toward them, before they were shot.

Please respond to my original post.

Which basically means they look down, they get amy'd.

If you can't see the opponents eyes, it's retarded to think you can accurately counter their attacks.

[Uchiha Sora]

Originally Posted by Uchiha_Sora

Ammy. Tsukuyomi.

/thread.

No there will be none of that "See chakra building up in their eyes" because Chakra is already beig built in their eyes due to usin sharingan. Itachi would most likely solo in a taijutsu match with genjutsu sprinkled in.

And there won't be any of that "hyuuga's don't see eyes" either, since they don't need to see the surface of the eyes. There eyes are still making contact, and that's all that's necessary. like looking Into a blind persons eyes. Ur still making eye contact.

Maybe not Hiashi(due to hype), but in comparison to Itachi, Neji is pretty much fodder. Throw in Sasuke's OPness and then you get complete rape.

Totsuka sword wouldn't be blocked. It's a Spiratual sword that pierces everything like butter... Even I it gets reflected its not flying bak and sealin someone. That's just absurd.

Think ya missed this mega

[vonshadow]

Originally Posted by megabbaut

Unlike Gai, they have the Byakugan which lets them see all around their surroundings. So they don't have to train at all.

Just wank this, wank that. You don't have anything else to say, do you?

You do realize that they have a 350 degree field of vision when they look straight and up like a normal human right ??? If they look down, their field of vision is going to be angled even if it is 360 degrees. Massive blind spot for the Uchihas to exploit.

[megabbaut]

Ammy. Tsukuyomi.

/thread.

No there will be none of that "See chakra building up in their eyes" because Chakra is already beig built in their eyes due to usin sharingan. Itachi would most likely solo in a taijutsu match with genjutsu sprinkled in.

And there won't be any of that "hyuuga's don't see eyes" either, since they don't need to see the surface of the eyes. There eyes are still making contact, and that's all that's necessary. like looking Into a blind persons eyes. Ur still making eye contact.

Maybe not Hiashi(due to hype), but in comparison to Itachi, Neji is pretty much fodder. Throw in Sasuke's OPness and then you get complete rape.

Totsuka sword wouldn't be blocked. It's a Spiratual sword that pierces everything like butter... Even I it gets reflected its not flying bak and sealin someone. That's just absurd.

Actually their eyes bleed before the respective attack is in effect. Obviously a sign of chakra being built up.

Both person A and person B have to see each other's eyes. That's the whole point of eye contact. If you can't see the eyes AT ALL, then you're not having eye contact. That's as simple as it gets.

Not really fodder when Neji have counters to basically everything Itachi has. Sure, he may not be as POWERFUL as him, but you don't have to be as strong as someone in order to defeat them. Like you said on another thread, everyone has their own techniques which may happen to counter someone else's technique.

In the case of something that reflects the attack back at the user, it's a different story. Think of it as a similar principle to Rasengan redirecting the 3rd Raikage's arm, leading into a suicide.

You do realize that they have a 350 degree field of vision when they look straight and up like a normal human right ??? If they look down, their field of vision is going to be angled even if it is 360 degrees. Massive blind spot for the Uchihas to exploit.

By that logic Neji wouldn't have been able to evade all of Kidomaru's kunais. The only blind spot in the Byakugan's sight is the tiny opening just above the thoracic vertebra. Only something as small as a kunai can fit through it. Unless they all have their backs turned, the Hyugas aren't getting blindsided.

[vonshadow]

By that logic Neji wouldn't have been able to evade all of Kidomaru's kunais. The only blind spot in the Byakugan's sight is the tiny opening just above the thoracic vertebra. Only something as small as a kunai can fit through it. Unless they all have their backs turned, the Hyugas aren't getting blindsided.

Yes because he was looking up with his head straight. Now with his head tilted to look directly at the ground, dont you think there would be a greater blind spot now and not to mention the other blindspot

[megabbaut]

Originally Posted by vonshadow

Yes because he was looking up with his head straight. Now with his head tilted to look directly at the ground, dont you think there would be a greater blind spot now and not to mention the other blindspot

Actually, he was being distracted by a dud paper bomb beforehand.he detected the kunai with his 360 degree vision, and used Kaiten accordingly. If there would be another blind spot, Kidomaru would've mentioned it.

[[Shikamaru]]

Originally Posted by [Shikamaru]

No comment.

I see Sakura looking at Itachi's hands, therefore she is now Amy'd. Either that or put into finger Genjutsu.

Are you? I've literally never seen you post a single good feature.

Not really. 360 vision does not equate reaction or even the ability to perceive the speed on the level of above sonic.

Ask a man if they noticed a bullet coming toward them, before they were shot.

Originally Posted by megabbaut

Actually their eyes bleed before the respective attack is in effect. Obviously a sign of chakra being built up.

Both person A and person B have to see each other's eyes. That's the whole point of eye contact. If you can't see the eyes AT ALL, then you're not having eye contact. That's as simple as it gets.

Not really fodder when Neji have counters to basically everything Itachi has. Sure, he may not be as POWERFUL as him, but you don't have to be as strong as someone in order to defeat them. Like you said on another thread, everyone has their own techniques which may happen to counter someone else's technique.

In the case of something that reflects the attack back at the user, it's a different story. Think of it as a similar principle to Rasengan redirecting the 3rd Raikage's arm, leading into a suicide.


By that logic Neji wouldn't have been able to evade all of Kidomaru's kunais. The only blind spot in the Byakugan's sight is the tiny opening just above the thoracic vertebra. Only something as small as a kunai can fit through it. Unless they all have their backs turned, the Hyugas aren't getting blindsided.

Please counter my original post, this is the second time asking you.

[Uchiha Sora]

But because you say byakugan sees exactly what was shown on that picture of kido chewing his stuff, Hyuugas can't see blood with byakugan activated. not like they would know what that meant anyway. And even If they did somehow know he was using an eye technique, they wouldn't have the speed to react anyway. Only reason A could was because of his lightning quick synapses. It's doubtful if even Naruto in RM can avoid it.. let alone shield himself in any way. Cuz I know your about to say rotation/emit chakra block lol

Doesn't matter if you see their eyes or not. You are still looking at their eyes, you just don't see them. Eye contact is when you are looking at eachothers eyes. Whether you see them or not doesn't matter. You are lookin into their eyes.

Except Itachi trumps neji in almost every way. He's not getting hit by Neji due to his sharingan pre cog and great movement. Even the high tier jonin got smacked around by him and he wasn't even trying. Let's not forget the crow clones, shadow clones, exploding clones etc.

It would just be parried, not hit back at the susano..

[megabbaut]

Sorry about that, [Shikamaru].

No comment.

I see Sakura looking at Itachi's hands, therefore she is now Amy'd. Either that or put into finger Genjutsu.

Are you? I've literally never seen you post a single good feature.

Not really. 360 vision does not equate reaction or even the ability to perceive the speed on the level of above sonic.

Ask a man if they noticed a bullet coming toward them, before they were shot.

I can actually put a scenario for Sakura vs Itachi.

Spoiler:

Itachi: ...Haruno Sakura...I heard about you...*Sharingan activated*
Sakura: *Glare* (Itachi Uchiha! He's the one who caused Naruto and Sasuke so much pain!) *Slams fist together* (Get it together Sakura! I'll capture him and once I do, Sasuke will surely come back!)
Itachi: Didn't Chiyo teach you anything about fighting the Sharingan..? You are alone here. You're suppose to run...
Sakura: Why would I want to run?! I'll catch you if it means bringing Sasuke back!
Itachi: ... You are still obsessed with my brother...why..? Be betrayed his friends and left behind his village. He has gone rogue.
Sakura: Because of you he has darkness filled in his heart! If I can catch you, I'll see him again!

Sakura charges in, summoning a large amount of chakra to her fist as she neared him. Itachi's eyes were darkened by his bangs as he raised both hands out in front of him and released a series of black crows flying out towards the enemy. Sakura ignored the pain and aims her fist straight for Itachi to see that she killed...a patch of Crows?! They flew out in all dirrections and the surroundings turned white and the sun went black.
Sakura: (Damn it! Just have to concentrate...Kai! Release!)

Once the jutsu was said, Sakura broke from the illusion and ran for Itachi.
Itachi: (She is much more trouble than I have expected...Amaterasu!)
Itachi's black flame of Amaterasu hit Sakura..but she turned into a log! Itachi looks from his left then to his right. There's no sign of her anywhere but when he looks above, he saw her coming down on his with her heel full of chakra. Sakura performed a powerful falling kick and it broke Itachi's neck and he imedietly dies..

Then you've obviously ignored the manga reference I just gave you.

You're comparing their speed to a bullet? I hope you know how fast a bullet is. By that logic, Deidara and whoever is faster than him or is as fast as him can dodge bullets, because he reacted to a Sasuke blitz. Yeah, illogical isn't it.

[[Shikamaru]]

Originally Posted by megabbaut

Sorry about that, [Shikamaru].


I can actually put a scenario for Sakura vs Itachi.

Spoiler:

Itachi: ...Haruno Sakura...I heard about you...*Sharingan activated*
Sakura: *Glare* (Itachi Uchiha! He's the one who caused Naruto and Sasuke so much pain!) *Slams fist together* (Get it together Sakura! I'll capture him and once I do, Sasuke will surely come back!)
Itachi: Didn't Chiyo teach you anything about fighting the Sharingan..? You are alone here. You're suppose to run...
Sakura: Why would I want to run?! I'll catch you if it means bringing Sasuke back!
Itachi: ... You are still obsessed with my brother...why..? Be betrayed his friends and left behind his village. He has gone rogue.
Sakura: Because of you he has darkness filled in his heart! If I can catch you, I'll see him again!

Sakura charges in, summoning a large amount of chakra to her fist as she neared him. Itachi's eyes were darkened by his bangs as he raised both hands out in front of him and released a series of black crows flying out towards the enemy. Sakura ignored the pain and aims her fist straight for Itachi to see that she killed...a patch of Crows?! They flew out in all dirrections and the surroundings turned white and the sun went black.
Sakura: (Damn it! Just have to concentrate...Kai! Release!)

Once the jutsu was said, Sakura broke from the illusion and ran for Itachi.
Itachi: (She is much more trouble than I have expected...Amaterasu!)
Itachi's black flame of Amaterasu hit Sakura..but she turned into a log! Itachi looks from his left then to his right. There's no sign of her anywhere but when he looks above, he saw her coming down on his with her heel full of chakra. Sakura performed a powerful falling kick and it broke Itachi's neck and he imedietly dies..

Then you've obviously ignored the manga reference I just gave you.

You're comparing their speed to a bullet? I hope you know how fast a bullet is. By that logic, Deidara and whoever is faster than him or is as fast as him can dodge bullets, because he reacted to a Sasuke blitz. Yeah, illogical isn't it.

Nah, I'll put the scenario for Naruto vs. Itachi.

Naruto blitzed Itachi looking at his lower part of the body.

He was captured in finger Genjutsu.

Neji, Hiashi, and Hinata have no idea he can cast genjutsu through the fingers.

They have absolutely no chance of survival at this rate.

AMY AMY AMY AMY AMY AMY AMY AMY AMY AMY

And Extended Chidori right through that Kaiten.

[megabbaut]

But because you say byakugan sees exactly what was shown on that picture of kido chewing his stuff, Hyuugas can't see blood with byakugan activated. not like they would know what that meant anyway. And even If they did somehow know he was using an eye technique, they wouldn't have the speed to react anyway. Only reason A could was because of his lightning quick synapses. It's doubtful if even Naruto in RM can avoid it.. let alone shield himself in any way. Cuz I know your about to say rotation/emit chakra block lol

Doesn't matter if you see their eyes or not. You are still looking at their eyes, you just don't see them. Eye contact is when you are looking at eachothers eyes. Whether you see them or not doesn't matter. You are lookin into their eyes.

Except Itachi trumps neji in almost every way. He's not getting hit by Neji due to his sharingan pre cog and great movement. Even the high tier jonin got smacked around by him and he wasn't even trying. Let's not forget the crow clones, shadow clones, exploding clones etc.

Actually, the times that we have been put into the Byakugan user's point of view was whenthe eyes were not visable. Which equates to the Byakugan's inability to see the eyes of others. Neji saw Deidara, Kimimaru, and Naruto and nowhere were eyes seen. Ao saw the chakra of Danzo and he did not see any eyes but just the chakra developing inside. The fact that Ao wasn't put into the genjutsu Danzo was using, shows that when you have the Byakugan on, you aren't staring into a Sharingan eye, which equates to being immune to Sharingan genjutsu.

So what you're saying is, a Sharingan user would never be missing their target, especially with melee strikes due to the prediction of the opponent's next move?
Chapter 260 page 6/7. They both missed

Chapter 357 page 10/11/12. Sasuke missed.

Or if the Sharingan user would never be hit:

Chapter 13 page 4/5. Failed to predict and dodge that kick.

Chapter 420 page 6. Failed to predict and dodge that stab.

There's more, but this is just to show you that the Sharingan is not going to protect Itachi from every taijutsu attack that comes toward his way. Itachi does not have many taijutsu feats anyways.

IClones wouldn't fool the Byakugan unless the chakra was spread evenly. Clearly Itachi doesn't have knowledge of the Hyuga clan, equating to not having knowledge of the Byakugan.

It'd be parried if it was just a normal barrier. We're talking about pure chakra that reflects.

[[Shikamaru]]

The only valid feature I'm seeing against 3 toma not predicting is Killer Bee's swords.

Which are by all means the most unpredictable taijutsu technique in the manga.

Everything else is invalid, since Sasuke predicted the position of not one but 8 blades for majority of the fight, with only one Katana.

How you expect a two armed man to physically strike him is beyond me, especially since he's slower.

Also not hitting does not mean he cannot predict, it simply means the opponent was fast enough to dodge Sasuke even though he had a step ahead.

Neji is many steps behind, he's slower, and limited to only melee strikes. He will be blitzed and murdered.

[vonshadow]

[QUOTE

IClones wouldn't fool the Byakugan unless the chakra was spread evenly. Clearly Itachi doesn't have knowledge of the Hyuga clan, equating to not having knowledge of the Byakugan.

It'd be parried if it was just a normal barrier. We're talking about pure chakra that reflects.[/QUOTE]

Are you speculating that Itachi who is a genius does not know the power of the Byakugan. Practically everyone in the village knows what the Byakugan does, even foreign villagers know what it does. I highly doubt Itachi would not know its usage, since he was in ANBU.

[megabbaut]

Are you speculating that Itachi who is a genius does not know the power of the Byakugan. Practically everyone in the village knows what the Byakugan does, even foreign villagers know what it does. I highly doubt Itachi would not know its usage, since he was in ANBU.

By that logic Neji along with his team has knowledge of the Sharingan along with MS. It is common knowledge Sharingan is just as known to the world as the Byakugan. Shi had knowledge of Ammy and that Itachi uses it, despite never seeing it before. Kakashi had knowledge of Susanoo despite never seeing it before. Heck, he even called it Susanoo when Sasuke never introduced it to him in the first place. So, if you're going to say that Itachi has knowledge of the Byakugan, you might as well accept the facts above and say the other team of the Sharingan and MS.

I'll respond to [Shikamaru] later, it takes a while to write stuff

[vonshadow]

Originally Posted by megabbaut

By that logic Neji along with his team has knowledge of the Sharingan along with MS. It is common knowledge Sharingan is just as known to the world as the Byakugan. Shi had knowledge of Ammy and that Itachi uses it, despite never seeing it before. Kakashi had knowledge of Susanoo despite never seeing it before. Heck, he even called it Susanoo when Sasuke never introduced it to him in the first place. So, if you're going to say that Itachi has knowledge of the Byakugan, you might as well accept the facts above and say the other team of the Sharingan and MS.

I'll respond to [Shikamaru] later, it takes a while to write stuff

Having knowledge is one thing. But will you be able to combat those moves even if you had the knowledge?? That is another thing.

[megabbaut]

Originally Posted by vonshadow

Having knowledge is one thing. But will you be able to combat those moves even if you had the knowledge?? That is another thing.

Course. Genjutsu I've already talked about. Ammy can be anticipated by the chakra building up, and accordingly using Kaiten to block it. Susanoo can be avoided until it wears off. With the Byakugan they can tell that it drains Itachi's chakra quite quickly.