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Old 10-23-2011, 06:35 PM   #1
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The name "Fugaku" is an alias, or alternative name, for Mt. Fuji in Japan. While the origin for Mt. Fuji's name isn't 100% clear, a Japanese text says it gained its name from the word "immortal" (Fuji). Tobi is called immortal by many characters in Naruto.

Another origin of the name of Mt. Fuji says that it gained its name from an idea of "an abundance (fu) of soldiers (shi/ji)". Tobi has 100,000 soldiers at his bidding.

Another Japanese folklore says that Fuji came from the words "not" and "two". In Japan, this translates as "without equal" or "having no equal". That would explain his character as the main antagonist.

That regards Fugaku's name.

For appearances, when Tobi removed his mask, it was clear that the man is aged and has 2 bags under his eyes. If you look closer, there's also Fugaku's and Itachi's prominent facial creases. Fugaku was 40 at his apparent death. The story has since moved on 10 years, giving an appropriate age for the man under the mask.

Now on to the plot:

Fugaku needed an alias. His name is not feared and won't gather immediate respect. Thus, he took on "Madara" as both of their ideals are similar. Since their ideals are similar, no one would question if he was really Madara.

Fugaku wanted the Uchiha Clan to control Konoha. He didn't like the way his clan was treated. This was well known throughout the higher ups of Konoha. Thus, when the 9-Tails attacked, Fugaku and the Uchiha were suspected of planning it. Fugaku was also noticeably absent during the attack as mentioned by Itachi.

Where was he you may ask? He was busy attacking Minato as "Tobi/Madara". When he failed to destroy Konoha and the elders, he had to re-think his plan.

What he came up with was the Eye of the Moon Plan. It was then where he decided to gather Hashirama's DNA in order to obtain Izanagi and greater powers. Since these bodily experiments would be rather obvious, he had his reliable servant, Zetsu, make a clone of him before starting. From that day on, it was the Zetsu clone that took his place in Konoha.

After some time, Tobi approached Konoha in order to attack again. However, Itachi intercepted him and made a deal, oblivious of the fact that it was really his father. But why would Fugaku make a deal that would kill off his entire clan?

First off, Itachi had fallen out of favor from his father. Fugaku thought Itachi would be the clan's saving member. However, it became painfully obvious that Itachi wasn't interested in doing what's best for the clan.
Since killing the entire clan would make Itachi a rogue shinobi, this was the perfect opportunity for Itachi to help Fugaku. As a rogue shinobi, he would be hired into Akatsuki, unwillingly helping Fugaku to achieve his master plan.

Also, this would kill his Zetsu clone, significant because if left unharmed, the clone would theoretically not age. This would reveal that it's not really Fugaku.

Another reason is the development of Sasuke. Sasuke had recently gained his father's trust, though not as much as Itachi had. Knowing that anger can drive a person without end, killing off his clan and family would jump-start a potential powerful shinobi.

This worked out perfectly for Fugaku.

Fugaku now has his ideal son working for him in Itachi. If Itachi still doesn't work out, Fugaku has Sasuke in the background, increasingly becoming stronger. He also has fame and reputation as "Madara".

Now for some miscellaneous details:
Naruto and Sasuke will be forever intertwined. The same goes for their family and blood.

During the 9-Tails' attack, it was revealed that Kushina and Mikoto Uchiha (Sasuke's mother) are friends, and good ones at that. Mikoto was also said to be missing during the 9-Tails' attack. She was noticeably compliant with Fugaku's ideals of the Uchiha taking over. Thus, she told Fugaku of Kushina's pregnancy, giving him the perfect time to release the 9-Tails. That's a connection for their mothers.

For their fathers, they fought during the 9-Tails' attack. One was the Child of Prophecy that potentially could bring world peace, while the other wanted to have world domination, in his own sense of "peace".

This theory isn't perfect, but hey, Kishi has a lot of explaining to do with Tobi anyway.
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Old 10-23-2011, 06:40 PM   #2
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Default Re: Tobi is Sasuke's father, Fugaku Uchiha

This is actually a very good theory.
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It could work and it's a lot better than those Obito ones
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Old 10-23-2011, 06:45 PM   #4
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That would explain how he could know so much about the Uchiha.. assuming hes the mastermind behind the 9 tails attack, maybe he failed and came back to plan the Coup d'Tat in revenge.
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Tobi: No, I am your father!
Sasuke: NO! THATS IMPOSSIBLE!

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AAAnyways, I honestly dont know how this will end up. This does look credible, but cliche. However, if it happens, I won't be that disapointed.
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Wow. That actually explains how he knew about Kushina giving birth, Kushina told his wife about it!
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sounds like starwars now..kinda..

then who was the guy at the uchiha massacre? the one where itachi killed..the woman and the man?
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Old 10-23-2011, 07:27 PM   #8
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Pretty screwed up family if you ask me.

With the whole Itachi rigging Sasuke to burn their dad with Amy upon physical touch.
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how about.. all the uchiha clan members itachi killed was actually zetsu clones and the real uchiha clan is actually just hiding somewhere. and if tobi did reveal his face to sasuke, sasuke would have known that he is his father.
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Wow. That actually explains how he knew about Kushina giving birth, Kushina told his wife about it!
Exactly. I didn't really specify that enough in the OP so I'll make it more obvious.

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Pretty screwed up family if you ask me.

With the whole Itachi rigging Sasuke to burn their dad with Amy upon physical touch.
Yep. Though Itachi didn't know it was their father, just that the guy had an evil plan.
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Idk why everyone makes these dumb theories. This is the worst one I've heard so far. Tobi's identity is obvious, and everyone is ignorant for reading into it. Tobi is this man:
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How would Itachi not recognize his father? If not by his voice and mannerisms, then by his chakra.
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How would Itachi not recognize his father? If not by his voice and mannerisms, then by his chakra.
Good point.

Though the only time they came into contact was once in the manga, when they were sealing a tailed beast.

At that time Tobi was a new member.

However, if he thought Tobi was dangerous enough to at some point attempt to recruit Sasuke and manipulate him enough that Itachi would have to put Amy in as a booby trap, then obviously he must have known who it was.
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no, he helped Itachi kill the Uchihas.
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How would Itachi not recognize his father? If not by his voice and mannerisms, then by his chakra.
I'd say the Senju's DNA and the corresponding experiments would alter anyone's chakra structure.

If whoever the man is can change his voice and personality to fit the infant-like Tobi, then I'm sure if it was Fugaku, he could change his voice enough to avoid suspicion.
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it sounds like your altering the facts to fit the theory rather then altering the theory to fit the facts.
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Fits with the Myth.:O

Izanagi's Children:
Susanoo,Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi.
The 3 Imperial Regalia in the Myth are related to them.
EG: Susanoo slaying the Yamata-no-Orochi.

Itachi's Susanoo has the 3 Regalia.

Sasuke = Kagutsuchi as I showed countless time.
Kagutsuchi was the child of Izanagi and Izanami.

So Sasuke and Itachi personify the Children of Izanagi and Izanami.

Izanami's full name is:
Izanami-no-Mikoto.

Coincidence?

Also adds in:

Naruto vs Sasuke
Minato vs Tobi/Fugaku 16 years ago.

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We know Tobi has Zetsu Parts who btw has a split Personality.
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I want this to happen just for the "I am your father" moment.
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It may change the views of Sasuke, since Itachi coming clean obviously did not fix his anger issue.

Will we see Sasuke return to Konoha? If he figures out his father caused all of this, I don't see Sasuke continuing his path.

Then again, we don't know what Itachi said to Sasuke before he died. So Sasuke might just be playing his father for a fool, looking for the right time to strike.
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well I didn't know about all of the mythology tie-ins. I choose to retain my skepticism.
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