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Old 10-23-2011, 12:57 PM   #41
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What feature proves

Naruto > A?
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What feature proves

Naruto > A?
Naruto was able to completely avoid his fastest attack/version of Raition armor.
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Feature?
Probably the part where Naruto gets around A in that lame part where he convinces A that he should join the battle against Tobi.
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Naruto was able to completely avoid his fastest attack/version of Raition armor.
I explained this earlier in the thread, please refer to it.
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I explained this earlier in the thread, please refer to it.
I saw it.

What makes him faster is that to dodge something you have to be able to react faster than the object moving at you. And it's obvious that he was able to not only dodge it but moved way away from it, he'd have to be moving faster than the object coming at him to do that. It was the author's intention to make him faster as well.
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I saw it.

What makes him faster is that to dodge something you have to be able to react faster than the object moving at you. And it's obvious that he was able to not only dodge it but moved way away from it, he'd have to be moving faster than the object coming at him to do that. It was the author's intention to make him faster as well.
Nah he moved a significantly smaller distance to dodge it.

Raikage blitzed him fully, and came within a finger span of his face.

Nothing suggests KM Naruto can do the same, same goes for Minato.

Nobody has blitzed Raikage, nobody ever will.
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Nah he moved a significantly smaller distance to dodge it.

Raikage blitzed him fully, and came within a finger span of his face.

Nothing suggests KM Naruto can do the same, same goes for Minato.

Nobody has blitzed Raikage, nobody ever will.
No he didn't, he was completely past Raikage before the fist was able to make contact with his face.

He didn't blitz him, Naruto was looking at the fist the whole time smiling.

Maybe not for Minato since he needs tags, but Naruto was easily keeping pace with him and wasn't trying to hit Raikage.

You can't really say that since you're not the author.
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I saw it.

What makes him faster is that to dodge something you have to be able to react faster than the object moving at you. And it's obvious that he was able to not only dodge it but moved way away from it, he'd have to be moving faster than the object coming at him to do that. It was the author's intention to make him faster as well.
Read the Naruto VS A Thread i made.

Not necessarily, Sasuke could dodge A but he wasn't faster than A.
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The only thing that can be said is that Naruto may only have limited speed boosts because he dodged that attack by A with ease; whereas before, he got pounded.
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Read the Naruto VS A Thread i made.

Not necessarily, Sasuke could dodge A but he wasn't faster than A.
Sasuke has sharingan which only helps reaction speed, plus he was only dealing with V1 A.

Naruto and A launched at the same time when they first started out, and arrived at the same time. The only reason he wasn't able to get by was that the distance Naruto had to cross was greater than the distance A had to cross (he only had to go to the side, Naruto had to go in a diagonal path) plus he only got pounded cause he didn't want to fight Raikage.
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I don't know if I agree with the second part. Naruto could go wherever he wanted, A had to catch him.

Obvioulsy, that last time Naruto rocked A's speed.
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Sasuke has sharingan which only helps reaction speed, plus he was only dealing with V1 A.

Naruto and A launched at the same time when they first started out, and arrived at the same time. The only reason he wasn't able to get by was that the distance Naruto had to cross was greater than the distance A had to cross (he only had to go to the side, Naruto had to go in a diagonal path) plus he only got pounded cause he didn't want to fight Raikage.
That doesn't matter since A was still faster. Its only an example of reacting but not being faster. I can dodge a bullet, but can I sprint faster than one? Neji could react to Kido's arrow, but was he faster than the arrow itself?

It doesn't matter if he got pounded, the fact was he couldn't get past A. And no, Naruto started off first. Then A warned him and told him that he was gonna blitz.
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No he didn't, he was completely past Raikage before the fist was able to make contact with his face.

He didn't blitz him, Naruto was looking at the fist the whole time smiling.

Maybe not for Minato since he needs tags, but Naruto was easily keeping pace with him and wasn't trying to hit Raikage.

You can't really say that since you're not the author.
That's because Raikage ran in a directly straight line

Naruto began running aside before Raikage even got near him, and he still managed to adjust his linear blitz to nearly punch him in the face.

Smiling? Where? Page, chapter.

Here's what happend

"I'M COMING NARUTO"

Raikage blitzes, is nearly 3 feet away from Naruto, who is shown running to ths side.

Raikage is shown in the next panel with his fist less than an inch from Naruto's face, Naruto is afraid.

Naruto dips to the side at the last milisecond, Raikage keeps running and destroys a wall.

At no point was he smiling, at no point in this feature does anything prove KM Naruto can indeed run faster than Raikage.
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That doesn't matter since A was still faster. Its only an example of reacting but not being faster. I can dodge a bullet, but can I sprint faster than one? Neji could react to Kido's arrow, but was he faster than the arrow itself?

Naruto sprinted off first. It doesn't matter if he got pounded, the fact was he couldn't get past A. And no, Naruto started off first. Then A warned him and told him that he was gonna blitz.
You can't dodge a bullet, the bullet would have to miss.

Neji couldn't react to the arrows, iirc he got hit in someway by nearly all of them.

It showed them launch at the exact same time. Also again I'll state moving side to side is easier than traveling in a diagonal path. You have to look at the extent he dodged it at, in all of your examples you would see it coming from far away. Naruto didn't choose to react till it was an inch away from his face. And before it hit his face he was able to get from in the fists path to behind A and then some. Had he just moved his head, sure but he was able to take his body from Point A to Point B before his full speed fist was able to move a fraction of would Naruto moved. Add that to the fact it was kishi's intention for Naruto to be faster.

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That's because Raikage ran in a directly straight line

Naruto began running aside before Raikage even got near him, and he still managed to adjust his linear blitz to nearly punch him in the face.

Smiling? Where? Page, chapter.

Here's what happend

"I'M COMING NARUTO"

Raikage blitzes, is nearly 3 feet away from Naruto, who is shown running to ths side.

Raikage is shown in the next panel with his fist less than an inch from Naruto's face, Naruto is afraid.

Naruto dips to the side at the last milisecond, Raikage keeps running and destroys a wall.

At no point was he smiling, at no point in this feature does anything prove KM Naruto can indeed run faster than Raikage.
Raikage went in a diagonal direction.

All he'd have to do is run infront of his position, Naruto was only running to make sure Raikage wouldn't punch her.

Not smiling, focusing.

That's bull, look on Chap 544 Page 10 they're very far apart.

Naruto was turned away from Raikage until his fist nearly made contact.

Yet he watched the fist all along with focus. And he wasn't afraid.

It isn't about running it's about movement speed, Naruto has been able to keep up with people near Raikage speed.
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You can't dodge a bullet, the bullet would have to miss.

Neji couldn't react to the arrows, iirc he got hit in someway by nearly all of them.

It showed them launch at the exact same time. Also again I'll state moving side to side is easier than traveling in a diagonal path. You have to look at the extent he dodged it at, in all of your examples you would see it coming from far away. Naruto didn't choose to react till it was an inch away from his face. And before it hit his face he was able to get from in the fists path to behind A and then some. Had he just moved his head, sure but he was able to take his body from Point A to Point B before his full speed fist was able to move a fraction of would Naruto moved. Add that to the fact it was kishi's intention for Naruto to be faster.


Raikage went in a diagonal direction.

All he'd have to do is run infront of his position, Naruto was only running to make sure Raikage wouldn't punch her.

Not smiling, focusing.

That's bull, look on Chap 544 Page 10 they're very far apart.

Naruto was turned away from Raikage until his fist nearly made contact.

Yet he watched the fist all along with focus. And he wasn't afraid.

It isn't about running it's about movement speed, Naruto has been able to keep up with people near Raikage speed.
That's where you're completely wrong.

"Keeping up with" means your equal if not faster.

Naruto did not keep up with Raikage, he dipped a linear blitz, yes linear.
Was raikage supposed to adjust his near hypersonic blitz to punch Naruto? not possible.

Naruto moved to the side, a significantly smaller distance than Raikage had to blitz. He cannot blitz Raikage.
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It's best to say in a linear pattern of movement, instead of straight line.

And Naruto clearly focused in on A, and avoided the punch. And using terms like milisecond, and feet is your own assumption, unless someone says, "I'm 3 feet away" Or you calculated it.

The fact the naruto avoided the punch from such close proximity only helps his claim of speed.
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You can't dodge a bullet, the bullet would have to miss.

Neji couldn't react to the arrows, iirc he got hit in someway by nearly all of them.

It showed them launch at the exact same time. Also again I'll state moving side to side is easier than traveling in a diagonal path. You have to look at the extent he dodged it at, in all of your examples you would see it coming from far away. Naruto didn't choose to react till it was an inch away from his face. And before it hit his face he was able to get from in the fists path to behind A and then some. Had he just moved his head, sure but he was able to take his body from Point A to Point B before his full speed fist was able to move a fraction of would Naruto moved. Add that to the fact it was kishi's intention for Naruto to be faster.
Wait one second.Before I go typing up paragraphs, this could change my whole opinion on this if you tell me where Naruto is the panel right after A's fist is in Naruto's face lol
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Orochimaru above Sasuke?

Sasuke kept up with Raikage fairly well.
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Forgetting that Tobi reacted to A at the Kage summit.

It should be:

Minato
Naruto
A

Those would be my top 3.
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Forgetting that Tobi reacted to A at the Kage summit.

It should be:

Minato
Naruto
A

Those would be my top 3.

That was more of an intangibility feat then a speed movement.

Like when Sasuke blitzed, Tobi didn't move but became intangible instead.

Deidara was the one who reacted, which might I add is impressive!

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