Naruto Tier List (Speed)

[[Shikamaru]]

Okay, so in my belief I put A at the top of the scale simply due to both hype and his own feature of dodging Amy. Also it looked like he countered KM Naruto with little difficulty in V1 and even base.

However, a lot of people believe KM Naruto is above Raikage, and below that is up to personal preference.

Another problem is A said himself he was slower than Minato.

Gated Guy, Deva Path, and Killer Bee are in this conversation.

Please refer to the bottom of the OP to see changes made and possible changes under debate.

Upon debating, understand there are three things that determine speed.

1. Foot speed (Linear Blitzing)
2. Reaction speed (Clearly dodging, moving away from or countering)
3. Perception (Ability to clearly observe and understand speed levels even outside of their own)

SCALE
A
KM Naruto
Minato
Deva Path
Killer Bee
Gated Guy (Lack of features at this point, only Kisame dialogue)
SM Naruto
3rd Raikage
SM Jiraiya
Madara
Itachi
Muu
Orochimaru (KN4 Feats)
Sasuke
Onoki
Danzo
Tobi (Intangibility Reaction- Foo and Torune)
Gated Lee (Again, lack of features)
Kakashi
Darui
CS2 Jugo
Hidan
Asuma
Zabuza
Chiyo (Iron Sand Reaction)
Haku
Kisame (Blocking Killer Bee Reaction)
Kimimaro
Kakuzu
Deidara (Sasuke reaction feature, perception reaction on C1 birds)
Sasori (Hiruko)
Konan (Paper clone reaction speed/shurikens)
Tsunade
Sai (Sasuke reaction- Orochimaru hideout)
Yamato
Suigetsu
Shikamaru
Anko

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Discuss, present features, copy and past your adjustments, and we'll debate it here.

Added off the top of my head, these are just the ones I thought are highly debated in terms of speed and more up the scale. I can continue down but there are simply too many characters. I did not add any of the earlier Kages.

If I forgot anyone please troll me and I will add them.

CURRENT SUGGESTIONS UNDER DEBATE:
-Need to locate: Hanzo, Muu, 2nd Mizukage, Onoki, Mifune, Darui, Kinkaku and Ginkaku and several Jichurikis.
Common: Should RS Naruto and Minato be above the Raikage?
-Should Tobi be higher since he reacted to Minato?
-Should Yamato be higher since he wrapped tobi relatively quickly with wood style?
-Where does Kabuto fit on the list?
-Shouldn't Deidara be higher when he's on clay birds?
-Why is Kakuzu so low?

CHANGES ALREADY MADE:
3rd Raikage put below SM Naruto (TheBlackChidori) + (Kuromaki)
Added Madara above Itachi (Kuromaki)

[Kuromaki]

maybe it should be Minato/Naruto/A so people won't argue about it

[[Shikamaru]]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

maybe it should be Minato/Naruto/A so people won't argue about it

Well the point is to debate it.

Why do you think Minato is top tier speed?

[Apollo Justice]

Minato is above RS Naruto and A but that's my opinion.

Reasons:

Reacted to A in a fraction of a second.

Outblitzed "Tobi" ect.

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by [Shikamaru]

Well the point is to debate it.

Why do you think Minato is top tier speed?

Well what we have for him is:

Saving Naruto as a baby from Tobidara;s attack in midair.
Yamato saying Naruto wasn't as good as Minato yet when he saw Naruto blitz Kisame.
A admitting to being slower than him, and we only saw one fight between them but there are supposedly more.
His nickname being the Yellow flash, flash implies movement and not just instant teleportation.

[[Shikamaru]]

Originally Posted by Apollo Justice

Minato is above RS Naruto and A but that's my opninion.

Reasons:

Reacted to A in a fraction of a second.

Outblitzed "Tobi" ect.

Well let's debate it then.

V2 Raikage came within a finger span of Naruto's face, this directly after Raikage told Naruto he was going to blitz, the panel before showing his fist in his face:

it showed Naruto beginning to run with V2 Raikage very close.

So the real question is does that feature make Naruto faster simply because he dipped a linear blitz upon a warning with prep?

[Super Sanin 3]

Is this considering FTG?

[[Shikamaru]]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

Well what we have for him is:

Saving Naruto as a baby from Tobidara;s attack in midair.
Yamato saying Naruto wasn't as good as Minato yet when he saw Naruto blitz Kisame.
A admitting to being slower than him, and we only saw one fight between them but there are supposedly more.
His nickname being the Yellow flash, flash implies movement and not just instant teleportation.

All circumstantial features.

Dialogue isn't always accurate and trustworthy, let's talk features from here on.

^ FTG is a seal teleportation, and is instant. We're talking Foot speed, reaction and perception ability.

[Lone_Espada]

Features like A moving at his full speed towards Minato and him dodging it?

[[Shikamaru]]

Originally Posted by Lone_Espada

Features like A moving at his full speed towards Minato and him dodging it?

Well Naruto did the same thing, doesn't mean he's faster.

Simply means Minato moved a significantly smaller space to evade a direct linear blitz. He reacted.

Same thing Raikage did when he dodged Sasuke's Amy.

Doesn't Mean Raikage can literally run faster than Sasuke's Amy in a direct sprint.

[Super Sanin 3]

Hmm... in that case A >> Minato in speed
But what made Deva Path so high in speed? I think I remember him falling back to escape the 6TK but that doesn't sound like a big enough feat to be put that high (I mean it's just the regular retreating method, jumping from tree to tree). An actual speed feat is if he were to actually attack it hand-to-hand like Orochimaru

[Apollo Justice]

Originally Posted by [Shikamaru]

Well let's debate it then.

V2 Raikage came within a finger span of Naruto's face, this directly after Raikage told Naruto he was going to blitz, and the panel before showing his fist in his face it showed Naruto beginning to run with V2 Raikage very close.

So the real question is does that feature make Naruto faster simply because he dipped a linear blitz upon a warning with prep?

Not only did he react to A but he got to Bee using his Hirashin.

With Shunshin he saved baby Naruto from being stabbed by "Tobi".

With Shunshin he saved Kid Kakashi from being stabbed while marking the enemy. Then to later use Hirashin traveling a distance before his backpack that was a fraction of a second away from touching the ground.

So even without Hirashin I say he is still speed king.

[[Shikamaru]]

Originally Posted by Super Sanin 3

Hmm... in that case A >> Minato in speed
But what made Deva Path so high in speed? I think I remember him falling back to escape the 6TK but that doesn't sound like a big enough feat to be put that high (I mean it's just the regular retreating method, jumping from tree to tree). An actual speed feat is if he were to actually attack it hand-to-hand like Orochimaru

Well apparently he paced with KN6 Naruto in a direct sprint, who I firmly believe to be the fastest being in the universe.

He also reacted to incredibly unpredictable chakra arms and fireballs.

Deva Path also jumped above a Rasenshuriken, which was thrown across a city-sized crater in less than a second.

[Lone_Espada]

Originally Posted by [Shikamaru]

Well Naruto did the same thing, doesn't mean he's faster.

Simply means Minato moved a significantly smaller space to evade a direct linear blitz. He reacted.

Same thing Raikage did when he dodged Sasuke's Amy.

Doesn't Mean Raikage can literally run faster than Sasuke's Amy in a direct sprint.

Reacted = Speed? You have to have the speed to react to something that fast no? His speed gave him the ability to react to something like A's full speed.

Edit: Oh I didn't know we were talking about Foot speed, reaction and perception ability. >.<

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by [Shikamaru]

All circumstantial features.

Dialogue isn't always accurate and trustworthy, let's talk features from here on.

^ FTG is a seal teleportation, and is instant. We're talking Foot speed, reaction and perception ability.

He reacted to A's fastest attack, but only avoided it because of Hiraishin, probably because he wasn't expecting such speed. That's the best thing he's done reaction wise. They also fought more than that, so maybe he showed some real speed there. Idunno.

I believe if it comes from multiple characters who have no reason to lie, it's trustworthy, but going by purely feats, he doesn't have much outside of Hiraishin.

The only movement speed he showed without Hiraishin was saving baby Naruto and appearing on a tree a good distance away almost instantly after saving Kushina from getting crushed by the Kyuubi.

[Super Sanin 3]

Well apparently he paced with KN6 Naruto in a direct sprint, who I firmly believe to be the fastest being in the universe.

He also reacted to incredibly unpredictable chakra arms and fireballs.

Deva Path also jumped above a Rasenshuriken, which was thrown across a crater in less than a second.

Don't get me wrong I think the 6 tails is fast as hell too but it seemed more like the casual "retreat" rather than actual combat didn't it? I mean with that speed he should have blitz'd tired base Naruto easily. But i'll admit his reactions are good

[[Shikamaru]]

Originally Posted by Lone_Espada

Reacted = Speed? You have to have the speed to react to something that fast no? His speed gave him the ability to react to something like A's full speed.

Yeah KM Naruto's reaction speed is astounding.

However that feature didn't prove he can run faster than A in a direct sprint race.

As you've seen, both Minato and KM Naruto's features were dodging A's Blitz.

Let them blitz A, I think he'd react and dodge too.

[[Shikamaru]]

Originally Posted by Super Sanin 3

Don't get me wrong I think the 6 tails is fast as hell too but it seemed more like the casual "retreat" rather than actual combat didn't it? I mean with that speed he should have blitz'd tired base Naruto easily. But i'll admit his reactions are good

Yeah I know the manga is always so inconsistent.

But that feature was just too ridiculous to let go.

Their faces were stretched, that's how fast they were moving. If I recall.

Deva Path has absolutely astounding reaction speed, but that feature goes to show his sprinting ability is far more impressive.

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by [Shikamaru]

Yeah I know the manga is always so inconsistent.

But that feature was just too ridiculous to let go.

Their faces were stretched, that's how fast they were moving. If I recall.

I think that was just bad animation on the anime's part

The 3rd Raikage should be here too, since he avoided 2 Rasen Shuriken, and Madara blitzed a bunch of ninja and reacted to Rasen Shuriken

[[Shikamaru]]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

I think that was just bad animation on the anime's part

The 3rd Raikage should be here too, since he avoided 2 Rasen Shuriken, and Madara blitzed a bunch of ninja and reacted to Rasen Shuriken

Ahh I knew I forgot someone.

I'm not exactly sure where to put him.

Above SM Naruto?