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Old 09-24-2011, 12:14 AM   #1
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Who is the best long distance fighter in the series?

Here's how the fights work.

It's one on one fights. Character X vs Character Y

Each character starts off 10 miles away from each other.

Each character gets a day of prep. However they can't use
that day of prep to search for their opponent. They can
however fortified themselves from enemy attack.

Each character doesn't know where there opponent is
but when the fight starts they can look for them.

Each character does not know their opponents abilities.
However they do know they are fighting their opponent.

Each character is allowed
10 Kunai, 10 Shuriken and 10 Explosive tags plus 50 feet of trip wire.

Location is a forest that is 50 miles in radius.
There are no animals in the forest for some strange reason.
Just to clarify SUMMONS are allowed.

Weather is sunny for 5 minutes and rainy the next 5 minutes. Repeat.

Time of day is Midnight.

If there's anything else I should add just tell me.

Note: Filler characters and/or game characters get whatever power they had in that filler/game.

Canon characters only get canon powers.






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Golgo 13 Tier



1. Naruto Nine Tails Controlled
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3. Orochimaru
4. Naruto Sage Mode
5. Sai Shaft


Ultra Mega Super Tier

6. Deidara
7. Chiyo
8. Kakashi
9. A
10. Temari
11. Akahoshi
12. Kisame
13. Akaboshi
14. Benten
15. Gaara

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16. Minato Namikaze
17.Tsunade
18. Shee
19. Akatsuchi
20. Ameyuri Ringo
21. Cat-Masked Anbu Member
22. Choji
23. Boar-Masked Anbu Member
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25. Choza Akimichi
26. Anko
27. Chojurro
28.
Ten Tails 29. Asuma
30. Bird Masked Anbu Member
32. Brown-Haired Cloud Ninja
33. Chiriku
34. Bando
35. Kiba and Akamaru

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36. Ao
37. Kiba
38. Black Shadow
39. Ahiko
40. Boxing Kangaroo
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42. Chukichi
43. Chushin
44. Conch King
45 Aoi Rokusho
46 Aoba
47 Condor
48 Curse Jutsu Master
49 Atsui
50 Dan Kato
51 Arashi
52 Darui

Meh Tier

53 Shino
54 Itachi
55
Neji
56 Dodai
57 Onoki
58 Doto Kazahana
59 Doshin
60 Ebisu
61 Eight Tails
62 En No Gyoja
63 Ensui Nara
64 Enzo Tenro
65 Yahiko
66 God Path
67 Asura Path
68 Hell Path
69 Human Path
70 Female Animal Path
71 Male Animal Path
72 Konan
73 Jirayia
74
Kakuzu
75 Sasori
76 First Tsuchikage
77 Five Tails

Crybaby Tier

78 Baki
79 Hiruzen Sarutobi (Old)
79 Shisui Uchiha
80 Hiruzen Sarutobi (Prime)
81 Hashirama
82 Tobirama
83
Dosu Kinuta
84 Karin
85 Obito Uchiha
86 Baji
87 Iruka
89
3rd Raikage
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92 Kabuto Yakuhi (no Reanimation)
93
Mizuki
94 One Tail Shukaku
95 Baku (Summon)
96 Six Tails
97 Seven Tails
98 Previous Eight Tails Host
99 Zaku Abumi
100 Nagato
101 Four Tails
102 Foo
103 Torune
104 Three Tails
105 Two Tails
106 Nine Tails
107
Tiger Mizuki
108 Sage of the Six Paths
109
Demonic Statue of the Outer Path
110 Muta Aburame
111 Tobi Rinnengan and Sharigan
112 Madara Uchiha EMS
113 Tobi Warping/Phasing
114 Shibi Aburame
115 Shikuro Aburame
116 Preta Path
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EMS Sasuke 118 Orochimaru Powered Sasuke
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120 3 Tomoe Sasuke with 100% less Curse Mark
121 2 Tomoe (or less) Sasuke
122 MS Sasuke
123 Killer Bee
125
Suigetsu
126 Haku
127 Jugo
128 Kimimaro
129 Inari
130
Manabu Akado the 38 year old Genin
131
Baby Sasuke
132 Kankuro
133 Madara Uchiha with Rinnengan
151 Hinata

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Old 09-24-2011, 12:18 AM   #2
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Itachi wins this in most ways from what I can tell.

If he's allowed to use his abilities, kakashi gets mind raped from long distance because kakashi doesn't know not to look in his eyes.

If not, Itachi has shown alot more proficiency in kunai and shuriken to a point where I don't see kakashi winning.

I have no idea what kakashi could do within the day of prep, but itachi has also been shown to be far more strategic.

Kakashi loses.
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Old 09-24-2011, 12:21 AM   #3
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Itachi wins this in most ways from what I can tell.

If he's allowed to use his abilities, kakashi gets mind raped from long distance because kakashi doesn't know not to look in his eyes.

If not, Itachi has shown alot more proficiency in kunai and shuriken to a point where I don't see kakashi winning.

I have no idea what kakashi could do within the day of prep, but itachi has also been shown to be far more strategic.

Kakashi loses.
Did you read the part where they start off 10 MILES away from each other? How does Itachi first find Kakashi? Or are you saying that
Kakashi would just aimlessly walk towards Itachi and getting genjutsed?
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Did you read the part where they start off 10 MILES away from each other? How does Itachi first find Kakashi? Or are you saying that
Kakashi would just aimlessly walk towards Itachi and getting genjutsed?
Well, finding each other is inevitable I would say.

I say kakashi would find itachi first. But itachi's reactions are FAST. Even from sneak attacks. At that point. Itachi looks at kakahi, who looks back.

You see where this is going. There's also the fact he's extremely proficient in weapons. Even at a young age with the targets. And in his half-dead fight against sasuke where he spammed shuriken and performed handsigns at the same time.

But then again, there's kamui. But that wouldn't do much good with long distance to kill itachi. Maybe to warp away an incoming attack. But I'm not sure. I can only see this going in favor of itachi.
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Well, finding each other is inevitable I would say.

I say kakashi would find itachi first. But itachi's reactions are FAST. Even from sneak attacks. At that point. Itachi looks at kakahi, who looks back.

You see where this is going. There's also the fact he's extremely proficient in weapons. Even at a young age with the targets. And in his half-dead fight against sasuke where he spammed shuriken and performed handsigns at the same time.

But then again, there's kamui. But that wouldn't do much good with long distance to kill itachi. Maybe to warp away an incoming attack. But I'm not sure. I can only see this going in favor of itachi.
Hm what's to stop Kakashi from finding Itachi via Pakkun (who keeps his distance from Itachi seeing him.) and then Kakashi (after getting info
on Itachi's whereabouts) sneaks up and uses Kamui once he's in range?

Also remember Kakashi can travel underground.
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Hm what's to stop Kakashi from finding Itachi via Pakkun (who keeps his distance from Itachi seeing him.) and then Kakashi (after getting info
on Itachi's whereabouts) sneaks up and uses Kamui once he's in range?

Also remember Kakashi can travel underground.
I thought animals weren't allowed in the forest?

Itachi turns into crows. To spy on kakashi. Alot more incog then a dog if that's even possible.

Itachi would be doing something similar to Kakashi.

So how is pakkun gonna identify itachi based on birds in the forest and mount a sneak attack. In that case, the birds then attack kakashi by shifting into shuriken.
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Kakashi, he has the ninja hounds to search by smell. Itachi only has sharingan, which is limited range.
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I thought animals weren't allowed in the forest?

Itachi turns into crows. To spy on kakashi. Alot more incog then a dog if that's even possible.

Itachi would be doing something similar to Kakashi.

So how is pakkun gonna identify itachi based on birds in the forest and mount a sneak attack. In that case, the birds then attack kakashi by shifting into shuriken.
I meant it as there no animals already in the forest. Summons are allowed.
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How does he kill Itachi though?
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Nevermind

He can also transform into crows.
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I thought animals weren't allowed in the forest?

Itachi turns into crows. To spy on kakashi. Alot more incog then a dog if that's even possible.

Itachi would be doing something similar to Kakashi.

So how is pakkun gonna identify itachi based on birds in the forest and mount a sneak attack. In that case, the birds then attack kakashi by shifting into shuriken.
No animals as the animal populace you'd usually discover in said forest.

The hounds have a sense of smell. Remember when Pakkun traced Sasori?

Dogs have better sense, crows have better scope. It's really a matter of who acts on their discovery first.
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Even if kakashi acted on his discovery. The amount of crows there are, he wouldn't be able to eliminate all of them at once.

Ultimately this gives away his position. And itachi just brutally rapes him over with ammy or anything else actually.
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No animals as the animal populace you'd usually discover in said forest.

The hounds have a sense of smell. Remember when Pakkun traced Sasori?

Dogs have better sense, crows have better scope. It's really a matter of who acts on their discovery first.
Since there are no animals (aside from summons) wouldn't crows
be a dead give away it's Itachi? That is if Kakashi or Pakkun
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Since there are no animals (aside from summons) wouldn't crows
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As if dogs could be an any worse giveaway. And birds in a forest aren't that odd unless your implying that they know that there aren't any animals in the forest.

Ultimately, I think it just ends up going, itachi turns into crows, and they fly through the forest. At first sign of kakashi, they turn into shuriken and kill him. Or they regroup, fly at him all at once and turn into shuriken.
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As if dogs could be an any worse giveaway. And birds in a forest aren't that odd unless your implying that they know that there aren't any animals in the forest.
They know.

I'm just saying that if Pakkun saw crows he would know it's Itachi
or at least would report that there are crows and Kakashi would
figure out it's Itachi. Assuming Pakkun himself is not spotted.
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As if dogs could be an any worse giveaway. And birds in a forest aren't that odd unless your implying that they know that there aren't any animals in the forest.

Ultimately, I think it just ends up going, itachi turns into crows, and they fly through the forest. At first sign of kakashi, they turn into shuriken and kill him. Or they regroup, fly at him all at once and turn into shuriken.
Kakashi can hide underground. Can the birds see underground?
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How would he not if they know?

It's a dog, in the forest. Whom itachi COULD kill. Or just have pakkun lead him to kakashi where he murders him with his vast arsenal.
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Kakashi can hide underground. Can the birds see underground?
Based on your argument, pakkun would end up leading right to kakashi with reports. Because I don't think they share a telekinetic link.
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How would he not if they know?

It's a dog, in the forest. Whom itachi COULD kill. Or just have pakkun lead him to kakashi where he murders him with his vast arsenal.
How does Itachi find Pakkun (leading him to finding Kakashi)?

It's not like Pakkun is going to just walk up to Itachi and say "hi."

Also it's Midnight.
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Temari is the queen of long distance. She summons Kamatari and buggers off while he does all the work.

I realize the fight is Itachi vs Sasuke, but Temari is a better character than both of them put together, so I say she gatecrashes and kills them both.
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