Itachi vs Kenpachi or byakuya

[J-Man]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

The main thing that is helping your argument is the fact the distance is 10 meters.



Its even debatable that Kenpachi blitz Itachi's sharingan at 10 meters in my opinion.

Well I wasnt really even debating on the match just arguing the definition of bloodlust.

And this, friends, is, the literal definition of bloodlust. THank goodness for this crap internet it loaded enough for me to check to be sure this was the right part. Awesome stuff. Go watch Finding Nemo.

[321zigzag3]

Thats the most extreme form of bloodlust, not always for every character.

[J-Man]

You can't say "State of mind=Bloodlust", its just one single state of mind, if you said that then it would have to have a bunch of different "levels" of bloodlust for each match . and you could claim that in any match to help your argument like "well this characters bloodlust(which is basically the definition I gave, bloodlust is bloodlust no matter if you call it extreme or not) isnt as bad as normal because their character is normally friendly(which is totally totally irrelevant when they become bloodlusted just like that video hence the term) therefore the other team wins.

There arent different levels of blloodlust, its still bloodlust theres one definition and bruce, kenpachi, the nicest fictional character all become mindless in a rage.

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by J-Man

You can't say "State of mind=Bloodlust", its just one single state of mind, if you said that then it would have to have a bunch of different "levels" of bloodlust for each match . and you could claim that in any match to help your argument like "well this characters bloodlust(which is basically the definition I gave, bloodlust is bloodlust no matter if you call it extreme or not) isnt as bad as normal because their character is normally friendly(which is totally totally irrelevant when they become bloodlusted just like that video hence the term) therefore the other team wins.

There arent different levels of blloodlust, its still bloodlust theres one definition and bruce, kenpachi, the nicest fictional character all become mindless in a rage.

You act like bloodlust is the abandonment of all sanity.

There are varying levels in the end, why?
Because people are subjective, character subjectivity.

[Rasengan SageX5]

321zigzag is right. I can think of at least two examples in one show of bloodlust happening when a character is unconscious. In the Soul Eater anime,

Spoiler:

Death the Kid does his strongest Death Cannon after being stabbed by Asura's finger, and then Maka unleashes her weapon powers after being knocked out and fights like a berserker until Asura wakes her up by squeezing her kidney.

[J-Man]

Like I said, that's not true battleground bloodlust. It is, they do lose all form of mind and become mindless rage to win no matter what. What youre thinking of is "Intent to kill" or something like that. Bloodlust, no matter what, is mindless rage to kill no matter the case. Nicest character can become bloodlusted and end up just like the meanest, they lose all character they once had.

People being subjective and whatever else doesn't matter and there aren't any other levels because that is what it is, the abandonment of all sanity.

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by J-Man

Like I said, that's not true battleground bloodlust. It is, they do lose all form of mind and become mindless rage to win no matter what. What youre thinking of is "Intent to kill" or something like that. Bloodlust, no matter what, is mindless rage to kill no matter the case. Nicest character can become bloodlusted and end up just like the meanest, they lose all character they once had. .

Because everyone acts like Kenpachi at bloodlust?

No.

People being subjective and whatever else doesn't matter and there aren't any other levels because that is what it is, the abandonment of all sanity.

Yes it does matter, people aren't the same.

This is not some pseudo science rigid experimentation where all bloodlust characters act like their personality is completely gone. If you want that you go to Edo Tensei.

[J-Man]

They don't act like Kenpachi, even Kenpachi doesnt act like kenpachi.

People are the same when bloodlusted, they go in a mindless rage, really not all that hard to understand.

Edo tensei is not bloodlust either they just lose their mind and do what Kabuto tells them, not in a mindless rage to win under any circumstance.

[UchihaXSasuke]

Originally Posted by Vivi

Yeah.For Shunpo.
i said no blitzing

Nope.
Spirit Pressure.

prove that spirit preasure stops tsukuyomi

don't come with supostitions

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by UchihaXSasuke

don't come with supostitions

Spell Error?

Oh and:

there is not blitzing
itachi can react to byakuya's shunpo

From your OP.

prove that spirit preasure stops tsukuyomi

Easy.
Look at what happened to Nanao.

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by J-Man

They don't act like Kenpachi, even Kenpachi doesnt act like kenpachi. .

Nope.

People are the same when bloodlusted, they go in a mindless rage, really not all that hard to understand..

Based on what?

You are being too general here.

I might as well start saying Itachi in bloodlust is the same as Kenpachi.

Why do you think many do not adhere to your view.

Edo tensei is not bloodlust either they just lose their mind and do what Kabuto tells them, not in a mindless rage to win under any circumstance.

Bloodlust in the sense they have no qualms, nothing, they aren't holding back literal kill all the way.


While its true Bloodlust means extreme desire for carnage and such, but for BG or any battle section purposes the definition becomes more fluid that rigid, thats the problem.

[J-Man]

Well the BG should go more into detail because that's what bloodlust is. Everyone loses any character they had like ive said a million times. If they meant just a stronger intent to kill than normal thats what they should say, they shouldnt so loosely use bloodlust.

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by J-Man

Well the BG should go more into detail because that's what bloodlust is. Everyone loses any character they had like ive said a million times. If they meant just a stronger intent to kill than normal thats what they should say, they shouldnt so loosely use bloodlust.

Like the word troll is over misused loosely and such.

[J-Man]

That too. :P

[UchihaXSasuke]

Originally Posted by Vivi

Spell Error?

Oh and:


From your OP.



Easy.
Look at what happened to Nanao.

nanao uses tsukuyomi?