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Old 09-06-2011, 06:45 PM   #21
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Ok show me a damn SR in base who has used elemental attack, besides kido, and can heal them self in base?
He said that he was reffering to Medical Kido not just random healing abilities. Also Soul Reapers in base other than Kido are supposed to rely on their Hoho and Zanjutsu. That's just how the series was set up, Arrancar were never supposed to be equalized with Shinigami at all times, that's why most Soul Reapers went right into Shikai when fighting them,(i.e. Kira vs Abirama.).
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Ok show me a damn SR in base who has used elemental attack, besides kido, and can heal them self in base?
stop using kido like it's an entirely different thing all together when it's not. what are kido, spells used by focusing reiatsu, what is everything else we do done by? focusing reiatsu. if your not trying to start and argument don't use flawed logic.
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He said that he was reffering to Medical Kido not just random healing abilities. Also Soul Reapers in base other than Kido are supposed to rely on their Hoho and Zanjutsu. That's just how the series was set up, Arrancar were never supposed to be equalized with Shinigami at all times, that's why most Soul Reapers went right into Shikai when fighting them,(i.e. Kira vs Abirama.).
but yet some how Sr's are better in base than arrancar >.>
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Oh never mind that was his little scalpel thing
wasn't it healing in base actually? i remember it being he couldn't enter shikai until he healed people enough so that the gauge filled then he could use that to attack.
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I don't remember all I know is heal in base and in shikai he gathered what the enemy did to his team mates healed them and sent it back in a attack.
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I don't remember all I know is heal in base and in shikai he gathered what the enemy did to his team mates healed them and sent it back in a attack.
Hisagomaru unlike common Zanpakutō does not inflict damage when the blade hits a target, but rather heals the wounds of anyone it touches. Upon contact with a target a red smoke is emitted from the wound as it heals. The red smoke then enters the blade causing its gauge to fill up with a red light consistent with the level of the injury. Smaller wounds will barely fill the gauge at all, while enchroachment is great enough to instantly fill the gauge.


  • Shikai: Hisagomaru's Shikai command is "Fulfill" (満たせ, Mitase; "Fill" in the English dub). When the gauge is full, Hisagomaru automatically initiates its Shikai and transforms into Akeiro Hisagomaru (朱色瓠丸, Crimson-Colored Gourd). In this form, it takes the shape of a scalpel.
Shikai Special Ability: Akeiro Hisagomaru concentrates every wound it has absorbed into one massive attack that is usually initiated with a slashing movement that generates a stream of red energy somewhat similar to a cero, powerful enough to deal a near-fatal wound to a Gillian-class menos. Subsequent attacks also have the healing restriction lifted, allowing Hanatarō to attack normally after the transformation, though Akeiro Hisagomaru's form makes that difficult.
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Why the hell are people arguing over this?

Yes, we know Shinigami have different Zanpuktous. Physicals, elementals, support, and Kidou. That's why Unohana and Hanataro, being medics, and supports, have support-type Zanpuktous that focus on healing. It also means a trade off on actual offensive techniques.
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Why the hell are people arguing over this?

Yes, we know Shinigami have different Zanpuktous. Physicals, elementals, support, and Kidou. That's why Unohana and Hanataro, being medics, and supports, have support-type Zanpuktous that focus on healing. It also means a trade off on actual offensive techniques.
it's seph having issues with arrancar saying because they get more so called abilities their stronger when the only reason soul reapers don't have 80+ is because kido spells are all lumped into one big group while cero and bala are lumped separately which is really the only reason arrancar have more.
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it's seph having issues with arrancar saying because they get more so called abilities their stronger when the only reason soul reapers don't have 80+ is because kido spells are all lumped into one big group while cero and bala are lumped separately which is really the only reason arrancar have more.
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explain how he could counter that in base and keep his attack?
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Arrancars and Shinigami were never meant to be equalized. (in terms of techniques)

Hell, in fact, Kubo hyped them so much that they were supposed to trump the Shinigami by leagues. Hence the common Arrancar 'foot soldier' >>> 20% of Bankai Hitsugaya. And the 10 Espada >>> Soul Society line.
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Arrancars and Shinigami were never meant to be equalized. (in terms of techniques)

Hell, in fact, Kubo hyped them so much that they were supposed to trump the Shinigami by leagues. Hence the common Arrancar 'foot soldier' >>> 20% of Bankai Hitsugaya. And the 10 Espada >>> Soul Society line.
..like i said...Arrancar that are up graded against SR's in this verse by useing reccuression powers in base owns SRs...
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But they aren't. I said supposedly.

Kidou and Ceros both carry an advantage and disadvantage to one another. While Ceros have the raw destructive power, Kidou have the sheer diversity. Balas are essentially a poor man's Cero.

Resurrection is simply a limit removal. Like when a Shinigami moves from base to Shikai, or Shikai to Bankai, they are simply remove boundaries from their true strength.
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explain how he could counter that in base and keep his attack?
simple, just like he did. what are you seriously telling me that your expecting people to chant kuroshitsugi and then have it blown apart by a simple bala or cero? do you know how many people will buy that? ZERO. and forcing people to release just to counter a simple kido spell is stupid. using that logic to match a cero you need to be in bankai since it's the stronger of the arrancars ONLY 2 ENERGY BLASTS it only serves to reason that it's so powerful you'd need all your power to stop it just like kuroshitsugi is one of the strongest kido.
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When you make a cero your supposed to pose in order to make it happen.
Stark is the only one who didn't have to.
Bleach is based off sword fighting really. A couple of abilities extra but not 5 different types of ceros and all these extra moves.
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simple, just like he did. what are you seriously telling me that your expecting people to chant kuroshitsugi and then have it blown apart by a simple bala or cero? do you know how many people will buy that? ZERO. and forcing people to release just to counter a simple kido spell is stupid. using that logic to match a cero you need to be in bankai since it's the stronger of the arrancars ONLY 2 ENERGY BLASTS it only serves to reason that it's so powerful you'd need all your power to stop it just like kuroshitsugi is one of the strongest kido.
still didn't explain how he can keep his torrent after he countered the spell which was with the chant.
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just forget it jun
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still didn't explain how he can keep his torrent after he countered the spell which was with the chant.
that's a simple movement X force X energy dealy right there how he kept is little more then him keeping it going, this is a roleplay seph there is no all powerful science behind it governing whether this is capable of passing through this or on what wavelength that can exist. it happens how the fighters write it.
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