Spoiler I have been wondering...

[deidara330]

Originally Posted by EvL j3st3r

^I think it's more than that. I mean that would apply to pretty well any Sharingan technique (minus Koto Amatsukami). I don't think it's coincidence that both used Izanagi and both kept the eye covered.

And true, Koto Amatsukami could be the answer to the eyes being covered. But........why keep the eye covered just bc it doesn't HAVE to be exposed. I guess it would benefit Danzo, keeping his secret. But how would it benifit Madara?

and why are you adressing me as "Jester-person"?

It's not a coincidence. They kept it covered because Koto Amatsukami doesn't require visibility and having your enemies believe you have only one eye puts them at a disadvantage. They can both use Izanagi because they both obtained Hashirama Senju's DNA, something which (by the admission of Itachi himself) allows Koto Amatsukami to be used more than once a decade and also allows the user to perform Izanagi. So, it does connect. They can both use Izanagi because they both have Hashirama's DNA because they both have Koto Amatsukami, which is why they both covered their eyes.

It benefits Madara simply because it leads his opponents to believe he has only one eye. It puts them at a disadvantage. Additionally, Koto Amatsukami is used via Mangekyo, so hiding the Sharingan means that people don't know he's capable of it in the first place.

I adress people like that, occasionally.

[EvL j3st3r]

So wait........your implying that Danzo use MS?

[deidara330]

Originally Posted by EvL j3st3r

So wait........your implying that Danzo use MS?

No. Technically, I wasn't implying anything, because I had no intention to. My point was that I thought your reasoning as to Izanagi being auto-activated was doubtful concidering that the coincidences you brought up are already connected via Shisui's Mangekyo and Hashirama's DNA being able to power it up more often.

That does, however, present as fact that Danzo used the Mangekyo. We never actually saw his Sharingan in any instance in which he used Koto Amatsukami, and Shisui already had the Mangekyo when both his eyes were taken. If Itachi's crow had the Mangekyo from sheer implantation, I would think Danzo would reach the same level. We also don't know how Mangekyo with unique Dojutsu work, because both Shisui and Kakashi have demonstrated Mangekyo abilities unique to them without having ever used either the Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi, the two powers each Mangekyo is supposed to automatically give to those who unlock it. Danzo having a Mangekyo and not using either Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi is plausable when Kakashi and Shisui have both failed to do so as well.

[UchiHa_AsH]

Yes. The fact he may not be able to deactivate his sharingans is quite beliavable.

Indeed its making sense now. If the eye that has been uncovered is his original eye that has more power. Means that the other eye had some power aswell but he sacrificed it for konan when he used izanagi and evaded certain death. Now we know another fact. If naruto would bombard him for another 5 or 10 minutes in 1 he wouldn't be able to escape because i doubt he would sacrifice his EMS for using izanagi. Well he probably would.

But here are some other weird facts. Madara has so far not shown even signs of possesing an EMS or a mangekyu. We have not seen his eye activate. We assume he has it and perhaps he does.

Spoiler:

But... he now has the rinnegan in the manga

but he he also has another hole on his mask... i am strongly suspecting that hole is going to be for a Byakugan. And thats because i firmly beliave that the rinnegan,byakugan and the sharingan combined ocular powers bring out the powers of the one the 10 tails had. The big eye. The red colour and the typic sharingan pattern is for the sharingan. The circles for the rinnegan and the base for the bykugan. To have all 3 eye's activated at the same time it means the next:

You would be able to see any weak spots in your enemy, an almost 360

[kalmeast]

i think there's a little over analysis going on here leading to too much speculation from the on set...

^ i think that Madara merely sacrificed his left eye because he'd rather not lose his intangibility and Space-time ninjutsu technique from his right eye. which has saved his a*s on numerous occasion.

it makes sense tho that his covered LEFT eye could be one that doesn't need eye contact with an opponent to cast a mind-controlling genjutsu. But if i'm not wrong, there's a leakage in this theory as well since his LEFT eye is what performs the genjutsu which was able to trap fu and torune for all that time. When he brought them out, he didn't have his left sharingan but the rinnegan at that time. So i'd conclude that his left eye could just be a spare non-special sharingan. I dont see him sacrificing Koto ATK that easily either. but hey i could be wrong.

edit: thanks for the correction
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[K3nsh!n]

Originally Posted by kalmeast

i think there's a little over analysis going on here leading to too much speculation from the on set...

^ i think that Madara merely sacrificed his left eye because he'd rather not lose his intangibility and Space-time ninjutsu technique from his right eye. which has saved his a*s on numerous occasion.

it makes sense tho that his covered right eye could be one that doesn't need eye contact with an opponent to cast a mind-controlling genjutsu. But if i'm not wrong, there's a leakage in this theory as well since his right eye is what performs the genjutsu which was able to trap fu and torune for all that time. When he brought them out, he didn't have his left sharingan but the rinnegan at that time. So i'd conclude that his left eye could just be a spare non-special sharingan. I dont see him sacrificing Koto ATK that easily either. but hey i could be wrong.

^red
I take it that you actually meant "left eye"
Even I think he wouldn't simply sacrifice his left eye if it really had some power equivalent to Kotoamatsukami. He went at great lengths to secure Shisui's eye and was really pissed off when Danzo destroyed it. Why would he want Shisui's eye that badly in the first place if he really had something like Kotoamatsukami with him all along?

[deidara330]

He'd want Shisui's eye because it's a Mangekyo, and as he stated, Mangekyo Sharingan are harder to come across. Plus, as a spare if he ever lost Koto Amatsukami.

He would've sacrificed Koto Amatsukami because once he has the Ten-Tails, he doesn't need it anymore, and if it ever played a crucial part in his plan, it was influencing Sasuke, something he no longer had to do with Sasuke as far-gone as he was when he fought Naruto.