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Old 08-02-2011, 12:52 PM   #1
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Distance: 5o Meters apart.. Onoki starts in air

Weather: Raining

State Of Mind: Bloodlust

Place: The Hidden Leaf Village

Restrictions: Pains can not be revived

Onoki has Knowledge of CT

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Distance: 100 Meters apart.. Onoki starts in air

Weather: Raining

State Of Mind: Bloodlust

Place: The Hidden Leaf Village

Restrictions: Pains can not be revived

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Depending on how high Onoki flies he might spam Jintons.
Not sure if it works though due to Preta.
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Old 08-02-2011, 03:04 PM   #3
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Distance: 5o Meters apart.. Onoki starts in air

Weather: Raining

State Of Mind: Bloodlust

Place: The Hidden Leaf Village

Restrictions: Pains can not be revived

Onoki has Knowledge of CT

Let the Battle Begin!!
I don't see Onoki winning , he'd try to Jinton Pains Paths but Preta'd absorb
and then Asura path launches a nuclear tracing rock toward Onoki ,Onoki is no more.

also Animal Path can help.
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Old 08-06-2011, 05:04 PM   #4
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With flight and clones spamming Jinton, Oonoki can probably win.
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Old 08-07-2011, 02:14 AM   #5
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With flight and clones spamming Jinton, Oonoki can probably win.
They can't spam Jinton, as they have limited chakra of 10% of the user's chakra capacity. Atleast that's how it is for Mizu Bunshin, but I don't see any reason why it should be different for other elemental Bunshin. Both Tendō and Gakidō can easily deal with Jinton, either by absorbing it or pushing it away by using Bansho Tenin. Other paths, such as Chikushōdō and Shuradō can block the Jinton with summoning and projectiles.

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Old 08-07-2011, 06:28 AM   #6
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I'm not sure if preta can absorb being broken down to a subatomic level, especially with no knowledge on their side. Plus with multiple clones they can dissolve-cube each of the pain paths, preta isnt going to be able to stop all of them before some paths start dropping. Plus I question preta's ability to absorb a hype island buster
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Plus I question preta's ability to absorb a hype island buster
And this Hype has been disproven since fighting Muu.

At best it would have created a massive hole like when the 2 Jinton's clashed into the Turtle thus killing it.
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I'm not sure if preta can absorb being broken down to a subatomic level, especially with no knowledge on their side. Plus with multiple clones they can dissolve-cube each of the pain paths, preta isnt going to be able to stop all of them before some paths start dropping. Plus I question preta's ability to absorb a hype island buster
What do you mean? He creats his chakra absorbing barrier around himself and absorbs anything coming at him. He doesn't need knowledge.
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What do you mean? He creats his chakra absorbing barrier around himself and absorbs anything coming at him. He doesn't need knowledge.
I thought Preta can only absorb from frontwards.
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I thought Preta can only absorb from frontwards.
Nope. During the invesion a group of Shinobi surrounded Gakidō and his used his barrier to protect himself from their multi-directional attacks. If you like, I can try looking for the page.
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422-5, its a surround type thing. However that will save only him, what about the other 5 paths that become dematerialized?
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422-5, its a surround type thing. However that will save only him, what about the other 5 paths that become dematerialized?
Thanks, and it's not the only time he used it. He's shown using it every time he absorbed Ninjutsu.
Anyway, like I said, Tendō can use Shinra Tensei, Chikushōdō can sacrifice his summoning (Cerebrus' ability to separate himself into dozens of smaller dogs would come handy here), and Shuradō can block Jinton with his missiles (which he has 36 of). The others can simply dodge. Ningendō for one is as fast as Sennin Jiraiya, so he wouldn't have problem dodging.
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Thanks, and it's not the only time he used it. He's shown using it every time he absorbed Ninjutsu.
Anyway, like I said, Tendō can use Shinra Tensei, Chikushōdō can sacrifice his summoning (Cerebrus' ability to separate himself into dozens of smaller dogs would come handy here), and Shuradō can block Jinton with his missiles (which he has 36 of). The others can simply dodge. Ningendō for one is as fast as Sennin Jiraiya, so he wouldn't have problem dodging.
Are you talking about the giant dust cloud?
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Are you talking about the giant dust cloud?
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What giant dust cloud?
514-1, 514-2 says it was enough to potentially threaten the island meaning its a hyped island buster.
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Preta can absorb Verison 2 KB all the way down to nothing, so it doesn't pay to doubt his absorbing abilities.

Still, unless all the paths group together. They will have a tough time with all those Jintons. Once it is down to Preta it is hand-to-hand combat. I don't think either is a very good fighter, but I guess I give the edge to Preta.
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514-1, 514-2 says it was enough to potentially threaten the island meaning its a hyped island buster.
We've this that two of those supposed "island busters" didn't destroy too much of the land when they clashed. Plus, you could say that they simply didn't want to endanger the turtle, it doesn't mean that that technique is an actual island buster.

How does Jinton even work? Do the different variations are on different levels or what? After all, Onoki used Jinton against Sasuke and it erased only a small part of the floor, on the same shape and size of the cube. Yet when it clashed with Muu's Jinton, it made a giant crater. I doubt it's about Onoki restraining the power, since Onoki knew that Naruto and the others are on the island and still decided to use the "island buster", but stopped it altogether instead of restraining its power. Not sure why he even wanted to use it, considering that both Deidara and Kabuto (or was it only Deidara) were flying in the sky.
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We've this that two of those supposed "island busters" didn't destroy too much of the land when they clashed. Plus, you could say that they simply didn't want to endanger the turtle, it doesn't mean that that technique is an actual island buster.


Those were colliding cubes, not per se the dust cloud.

How does Jinton even work? Do the different variations are on different levels or what?

Yes. Small cubes are for single target and dont do much damage to exterior things, large cubes like in the recent chapter fight is strong enough, when collided, to destroy mesas. The cloud supposibly put threat to the turtle enough that they had to climb much much higher in altitude in order to use it.

After all, Onoki used Jinton against Sasuke and it erased only a small part of the floor, on the same shape and size of the cube. Yet when it clashed with Muu's Jinton, it made a giant crater.

Well you have to consider the differing situations. Imagine an atom. When its alone it doesnt do much. When it smashes into another atom, you get the atomic bomb and hadron collider.

I doubt it's about Onoki restraining the power, since Onoki knew that Naruto and the others are on the island and still decided to use the "island buster", but stopped it altogether instead of restraining its power.

I'm guessing its hard to restrain a cloud of dust... in the open air?

Not sure why he even wanted to use it, considering that both Deidara and Kabuto (or was it only Deidara) were flying in the sky.
Not a clue, but still.
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