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Old 07-20-2011, 05:11 PM   #1
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I would say KN1 but I don't think Neji could do anything when the chakra protects him

I guess we'll also be debating Rasengan VS Rotation
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Neji would win. Getting past Rotation would be a tough challenge for Naruto. But yeah Rotation vs Rasengan would be a good debate. Not that Neji even needs to use Rotation for it, he can just dodge it like Kabuto usually does, only better.

Btw I'm assuming this is Naruto as he is at the beginning of Shippuden
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Btw I'm assuming this is Naruto as he is at the beginning of Shippuden
Just current base Naruto, with KN0
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Default Re: Neji VS Naruto

Naruto can summon more shadow clones now, and they all can Rasengan.

Neji cannot out last Naruto, and he's not getting close enough to gentle fist.

Two Rasengans would probably penetrate rotation quite easily.

It should be easy for Naruto to time an attack between rotations.
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Naruto can summon more shadow clones now, and they all can Rasengan.

Neji cannot out last Naruto, and he's not getting close enough to gentle fist.

Two Rasengans would probably penetrate rotation quite easily.

It should be easy for Naruto to time an attack between rotations.
It should be easy for Neji to take out Naruto's shadow clones, like in the Chunin Exams when they couldn't even touch him.

If they all try to hit Neji with Rasengan, he'll just do what Hiashi did in chapter 137 page 9, and take them all out. And no, he's doesn't need to spam Rotation.
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Naruto's taijutsu has improved quite a bit. During the chunin exams his clones could not rasengan.

Let me explain it:

Two clones blitz with rasengan, Neji rotates, another comes above and below with rasengan.

This goes on for an hour. Neji has chakra for 10 mintues.

How does Neji outlast Naruto?
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Naruto's taijutsu has improved quite a bit. During the chunin exams his clones could not rasengan.

Let me explain it:

Two clones blitz with rasengan, Neji rotates, another comes above and below with rasengan.

This goes on for an hour. Neji has chakra for 10 mintues.

How does Neji outlast Naruto?
So has Neji's. And Rasengan is easy to dodge. Chapter 304 page 5. That's what happens to Naruto. And the Rotation would just take the shadow clone out anyway.

This is assuming that Naruto has more chakra than Neji. Which is irrelevant anyway since he'll lose all that chakra from being 64 palm'd.
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You don't have to refer to pages. I understand Neji has chakra protection.

Naruto has vastly more chakra than Neji, hence 9 tails. He can create 200 clones. By the time they're all destroyed, Neji is out of chakra.

If Neji attempted to 64 palm, he would be blindsided by clones, and instantly killed.

Rasengan is not easy to dodge when it comes from all angles.
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The only form Neji can defeat Naruto is base Naruto in plausibility.

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You don't have to refer to pages. I understand Neji has chakra protection.

Naruto has vastly more chakra than Neji, hence 9 tails. He can create 200 clones. By the time they're all destroyed, Neji is out of chakra.

If Neji attempted to 64 palm, he would be blindsided by clones, and instantly killed.

Rasengan is not easy to dodge when it comes from all angles.
The 9 tails uses it's own chakra. And you underestimate Neji's chakra amounts.

Only something as small as a kunai can get through the blind spot, but I don't think Naruto has knowledge of that.

A massive Rotation can take out all those clones.
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The Rasenshuriken creates countless microscopic wind-blades.


Naruto used FRS and took down 2 of Kakuzu's hearts through his tough skin.
So I wonder if Rasen Shuriken could possibly be powerful enough to get through Rotation?

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So has Neji's. And Rasengan is easy to dodge. Chapter 304 page 5. That's what happens to Naruto. And the Rotation would just take the shadow clone out anyway.

This is assuming that Naruto has more chakra than Neji. Which is irrelevant anyway since he'll lose all that chakra from being 64 palm'd.
Rasengan from everyt angle, literally. Naruto makes enough shadow clone that they wil lall come at Neji from every angle, from the top and every side. Rotation has a flaw. He must slow down and stop before he uses it again, meaning there is a moment that he is completely vulnerable. Neji's as good as dead.
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Rasengan from everyt angle, literally. Naruto makes enough shadow clone that they wil lall come at Neji from every angle, from the top and every side. Rotation has a flaw. He must slow down and stop before he uses it again, meaning there is a moment that he is completely vulnerable. Neji's as good as dead.
Why would Neji allow Naruto to get in every angle, let alone make that many clones? Let's not forget that there isn't anyone more aware of the few weaknesses in the Hyuga fighting style than Neji.

Assuming that Kaiten has the weakness you believe it does, Neji would not just blindly spam the technique every time Naruto throws something at him. Also, Kaiten has more creative uses than just defense. We see that Hiashi Hyuga was able to decimate almost a dozen Jounin level Sand ninja with a single Kaiten. They were at least a few meters away from him. Yet just the force of his Kaiten flung each of them like rag-dolls, and it wasn't even a full powered one lol. Here the same thing happens.

We have seen that Neji has taken the Hyuga fighting stye far beyond it's normal limit, to such an extent that even the elders of the clan are amazed. Neji has doubled the range of his Byakugan, and I'm pretty sure Neji can use Kaiten to the same extent as Hiashi did. If Neji uses Kaiten to this degree, I simply don't see Naruto using any type of Rasengan that can possibly challenge it, except FRS, which would just give Naruto severe damage to his arm, and 50% of the time won't even work. Even if he can use it Neji can dodge it easily as if it was just a normal Rasengan.
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Why would Neji allow Naruto to get in every angle, let alone make that many clones? Let's not forget that there isn't anyone more aware of the few weaknesses in the Hyuga fighting style than Neji.

Assuming that Kaiten has the weakness you believe it does, Neji would not just blindly spam the technique every time Naruto throws something at him. Also, Kaiten has more creative uses than just defense. We see that Hiashi Hyuga was able to decimate almost a dozen Jounin level Sand ninja with a single Kaiten. They were at least a few meters away from him. Yet just the force of his Kaiten flung each of them like rag-dolls, and it wasn't even a full powered one lol. Here the same thing happens.

We have seen that Neji has taken the Hyuga fighting stye far beyond it's normal limit, to such an extent that even the elders of the clan are amazed. Neji has doubled the range of his Byakugan, and I'm pretty sure Neji can use Kaiten to the same extent as Hiashi did. If Neji uses Kaiten to this degree, I simply don't see Naruto using any type of Rasengan that can possibly challenge it, except FRS, which would just give Naruto severe damage to his arm, and 50% of the time won't even work. Even if he can use it Neji can dodge it easily as if it was just a normal Rasengan.
I don't know, maybe because Naruto was able to make that many clones in their first fight, so Naruto should have no problem making that many clones is a second.

If you have read any of Neji's fights in which he uses Rotation, you'd realize, that's a real weakness.

Neji can't just dodge FRS. FRS expands, remember? And Naruto has another variant that you're not acknowledging. He has Odama Rasengan, which is huge if you don't remember. Not as large as Jiraiya's Cho Odama Ransengan, but it's close to it. Neji's not just gonna dodge that, especially when multiple close are using it along with Naruto himself.
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I don't know, maybe because Naruto was able to make that many clones in their first fight, so Naruto should have no problem making that many clones is a second.
Neji was just standing there. Here he wouldn't even give Naruto a chance.

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FRS only expands when thrown, and Odama Rasengan is not that huge. If you're referring to Naruto going Sage Mode, remember that only Base Naruto is allowed.
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Which is why he'll expand it.


FRS only expands when thrown, and Odama Rasengan is not that huge. If you're referring to Naruto going Sage Mode, remember that only Base Naruto is allowed.
And all Naruto has to do is make a hand sign and the clones are made. If Neji charges Naruto, then Naruto uses Rasengan. and Neji is killed.

You must not of read what I said. I said that While slowing to a stop after using Kaiten, heis vulnerable to attack.

He made a rather large one while training with Jiraiya. I'll go se eif I can find the chapter.
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And all Naruto has to do is make a hand sign and the clones are made. If Neji charges Naruto, then Naruto uses Rasengan. and Neji is killed.
Neji dodges and uses 64 palms, and Naruto is killed.

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Exactly, which is why he'll expand it. The attack Naruto tries to use gets caught up by Kaiten.


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If you're talking about chapter 261 page 1, Neji can simply leap over Naruto.
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Naruto beat him without rasengan. With Rasengan he wins even easier.

Neji can do rotation, but Naruto could find a way to break it. If that didn`t work, then Rasenshuriken.

If at any point Neji tried to attack Naruto, Naruto could defend himself with his superior fighting skills.

I`d say Naruto could win even without Rasengan. But with Rasengan he`s definitely winner.

And just for overkill, Rasenshuriken. Anyway, in character, he probably wouldn`t use Rasenshuriken unless he really had to.

That said, Naruto wins!!!
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Naruto beat him without rasengan. With Rasengan he wins even easier.
Naruto won due to PnJ
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Rasengan hits the rotation and starts spinning so fast it turns into a "Super Rasen Shuriken".
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